Housepets! Tails of Babylon! * Developer's Thread *

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:29 am

I'm for the cunning creepy rather than crazy creepy. Don't worry about writing, I'll be the one doing it in the long run, just leave it to me

Greatsune, that track is RAD! I love it! I don't think it should play in the Zoo, it sounds per se "to good" for the Zoo...

Also, I said this before but I never got an answer. Are we really going with the fan-art Fido for the banner? I know the other one isn't accurate, but I think consistency is more important than accuracy.

Post by **Obbl** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:44 am

SuperStar wrote:Also, I said this before but I never got an answer. Are we really going with the fan-art Fido for the banner? I know the other one isn't accurate, but I think consistency is more important than accuracy.

Agreed

Buster · Post by **Buster** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:06 am

i didn't see the point in replying given my stance should have been obvious; the whole discussion started because i couldn't stand the other version.

CHAOKOCartoons · Post by **CHAOKOCartoons** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:09 am

I don't mind it either way. It doesn't bother me and the art isn't bad so eh. However, I wouldn't consider it "fan-art" since it came from one of the main artist of the game.

Post by **D-Rock** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:32 am

Well, I think I like the "cunning-creepy" route for Barghest. Sort of like Louis Cypher in the Shin Megami Tensei games. Polite guy, helpful, but if you choose to fight him, he reveals himself as the Fallen Angel, Lucifer. Barghest could be eerily calm, maybe even polite, but by the time you meet him, you know he's not about the nice things. The mouth design seems to go towards the crazy route, though. I know we want to hold up on him until we actually get there, but I just had to say my thoughts. Maybe when he's first encountered, he'll be like this. Calm look, but subtle things could give just a small hint of rage. And when he's ticked, something like this.

Really neat image, though, Buster.

Liking that track, too, Kitsune. Not sure where we could use it, though.

Also, how's this looking?

Post by **Dissension** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:18 am

CHAOKOCartoons wrote:I don't mind it either way. It doesn't bother me and the art isn't bad so eh. However, I wouldn't consider it "fan-art" since it came from one of the main artist of the game. :)

I would consider it fan art since this is all a giant fan project. *giggles*

It's cool that y'all are so passionate about this.

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:07 am

The great Devil Squirrel has blessed us by posting on our humble thread! *starts bowing*

Anyhoo, looking nice D-Rock! BTW, if you find the time, maybe you could stray away from Fido's weapons for a small duration to design Bino's first weapon. Just his first, nothing else for now. It's cause, you know, Bino's gonna be playable in Chapter 2 along with Fido and Fox, and we already have their starting weapons, so... Well, you get it. Anyway, it's just a suggestion.

GameCobra · Post by **GameCobra** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:46 am

GreatKitsune wrote:I envision him as more of a lurking dark presence, eerily calm, confident, and cunning (a bit like Kabuto from later seasons of Shippuden). Isn't Nue's outright rival, but obviously isn't his subordinate either, rather, is using Nue as a distraction without Nue realizing it. In other words, definitely very creepy, but more in a mysterious way than insane.

EDIT: Also, this: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/b7hua76 ... Guitar.wav Tropical-esque BGM, I guess.

Why not just have the both of them act separately at first, but come together after realizing as the game moves on that they need to work together more? Even if you guys want him to be designed as a dark entity, I'm pretty certain the idea of them having fun is the whole point. Being sneaky and dark is fine, but I think losing is what they are more afraid of, similar to how Dragon and Pete just hated losing and nothing more, but this guy can amp it up more in this story.

That BGM I really liked, but I find the beat after the 30 second spot odd with the techno piano. Sounds like awesome Zoo music in my opinion as well.

Post by **D-Rock** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:04 pm

Dissension for super secret boss! If you and he are alright with that.

I'm joking people.

Serious business now, I was wondering if I should get onto Bino's starter for a bit now, but I have a mindset of doing what I was already doing first before a new set. Multitasking is something that I am NOT good at. It's one of my bigger issues at work.

...so good thing this isn't work! Yeah, I can get to making a cherry bomb starter. Those have simple designs. I'll try to get to it within the next couple days.

And Cobra, Nue and Barghest aren't working together. Nue's doing this for the fun of it. It's just that he's interfering with the mortal realm more than is allowed, which is why the others are trying to stop him. Barghest, on the other hand, is working from the shadows, and I think I mentioned that he was the one who influenced Nue to even do all of this. Not made him do it, just a nudge onto that path. We mentioned it would somehow help Barghest escape from a banishment sentence.

Buster · Post by **Buster** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:39 pm

GameCobra wrote:Why not just have the both of them act separately at first, but come together after realizing as the game moves on that they need to work together more? Even if you guys want him to be designed as a dark entity, I'm pretty certain the idea of them having fun is the whole point. Being sneaky and dark is fine, but I think losing is what they are more afraid of, similar to how Dragon and Pete just hated losing and nothing more, but this guy can amp it up more in this story.

No, we discussed this before. Nue and Olde are just having fun.
Barghest, is a much older and more malevolent being that is currently sealed away, but is trying to get enough of a foothold in the physical world to be 'real' again. Doing so by taking advantage of the chaos Nue and Olde are creating to sneak his Shadows into the world.

That's why his Shadows are horror game creeps, while everything else is jrpg drama.

They aren't working together to begin with, in fact I seem to remember someone suggesting a line for Nue that would imply they're getting in each other's way, intended to tip the player off that there's more going on here.

GameCobra · Post by **GameCobra** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:24 pm

Nue, Olde and Barghest, eh? I somehow thought there was two in there. my bad. The names are confusing me a bit and throwing me off. X3

to be fair, though, i was hoping to see a boss merge for the final boss. Similar to the Four Sinistrals from the Lufia series from what the plot had hints of.

Buster · Post by **Buster** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:44 pm

there is only two.
Nue and olde are the final boss.
Barghest, is a bonus boss in an 'after the end' plotline.

script-wise for a boss merge to occur, a character has to be shown to exist in the main storyline before you reach the final boss. Unless you want it to look like an ___-pull. Which doesn't happen here.

Amazee Dayzee · Post by **Amazee Dayzee** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:49 pm

That gun came out very nice D-Rock! It looks very stylish and is something I would indeed like to see utilized!

KingFan202 · Post by **KingFan202** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:21 pm

just wanted to say im still here, out of state so im not too active at the moment

Buster · Post by **Buster** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:08 pm

Quick, King's distracted! Post 20 pages of stuff!

GameCobra · Post by **GameCobra** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:17 pm

Buster wrote:there is only two.
Nue and olde are the final boss.
Barghest, is a bonus boss in an 'after the end' plotline.

script-wise for a boss merge to occur, a character has to be shown to exist in the main storyline before you reach the final boss. Unless you want it to look like an ___-pull. Which doesn't happen here.

Good thing, too. =P

Now I got Windows 10 coming soon, but I'm currently in the process of throwing in some ideas for monster spells. If you guys have any ideas for monsters I haven't seen yet, feel free to chuck me some.

Post by **D-Rock** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:34 am

Monster spells? Well, we'd need to see what types of monsters we have. The demon monkeys, the mice, Blu-e, Jenny, the Feral Dog, that's all I can think of at the top of my head. I would think the Shadows would have the same moves as the character they're from, but maybe stronger variants, too.

Also, got this. Simple design. I know these things come in quite a few colors, but I decided "screw it," and got candy red. Also, maybe make the description say it's a weak one, Star. I saw images of injuries of these exploding in your hand. DO NOT LOOK IT UP.

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:37 am

"Ch ch ch ch ch Cherry Bomb!" That'll definitely be part of the description.

Also, FUNFACT! Before you posted D-Rock, this thread had exactly 2015 posts, the same number as our current year. IS IT A SIGN?

Invisan · Post by **Invisan** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:02 am

meeeeep Wrong.

The Thread has now #2019 Posts (mine already included.)
Post #2015 was the one of Buster. So GC posted after her and D-Rock`s Post was #2017.

Well offtopic asside nice work with the Ch-ch-ch-cherry bomb D

Post by **D-Rock** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:24 am

You know, I think I was channeling the Brute Pistol from the Halo games when I came up with this. Also, I think I finally put the original intended color palette for Savage Beast to use, though the blue is because I didn't want to make too much gold. I like how it came out.

Song used; "Resistance" by Muse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwLP-6hZV-U

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:59 am

With the name "Revolution", I couldn't help but think of this, XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAyI9BnA9sE

It looks awesome! And the bullet is sick!

Amazee Dayzee · Post by **Amazee Dayzee** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:09 pm

Wow really nice job on those weapons! They look very sick!

Post by **D-Rock** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:43 am

Random question, and I'm sure Chaoko is going to be a bit miffed at this, but will the shadows have face sets or just one face?

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:03 am

D-Rock wrote:Random question, and I'm sure Chaoko is going to be a bit miffed at this, but will the shadows have face sets or just one face?

I think the Shadow's will survive with just one face each. I've already but together a small file of the existing shadow's faces, for... personal reasons,

CHAOKOCartoons · Post by **CHAOKOCartoons** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:31 am

They only really have 1 emotion and 1 set of lines, they won't really require more than one face.

Amazee Dayzee · Post by **Amazee Dayzee** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:48 am

Though I am interested in knowing what SuperStar has them for.

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:18 am

DON'T ASK, don't ask! It's... none of your concern...

Buster · Post by **Buster** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:51 am

I would guess, traumatizing younger relatives that are being annoying?

CHAOKOCartoons · Post by **CHAOKOCartoons** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:55 am

DEE--ELLL--CEE!~ DEE--ELLL-CEE!~

I'm just kidding, that's probably not it. Though I would like to know considering that I drew them

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:20 am

I'm just... thinking about the future...

CHAOKOCartoons · Post by **CHAOKOCartoons** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:24 am

Anyway, here's more content for whatever nightmarish future you are thinkin' of!

I feel like it's worth saying that a song actually did inspire me to work on this one. Usually I listen to songs on shuffle when drawing, but this one came on and I kept it on repeat for the whole 43 minutes. It's "Room of Angel" from Silent Hill 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdXCsXcs6nA The main chorus is what really made it creepy in context of the drawing.

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:30 am

OKAY, I'm not sleeping tonight. But neither will my "annoying younger relatives".

BTW, is Shadow King next?

CHAOKOCartoons · Post by **CHAOKOCartoons** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:39 am

Uhh... I think so? I've completely lost track of where the list of characters in this thread so I'll just go ahead and say yes.

And if my hunch is correct, Fox would be after King?

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:52 am

That sounds about right.

Heh, btw, how's Fox's faces coming along? I'll need them soon. No pressure or anything.

CHAOKOCartoons · Post by **CHAOKOCartoons** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:54 am

I uh... I actually still need to finish Bino's faces still. I just remembered that I only made set A... ^^;

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:50 am

Oh. Right. Well then, I look forward to your next contribution.

Amazee Dayzee · Post by **Amazee Dayzee** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:58 pm

I am so tempted to use Shadow Tarot as my next avatar.

SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE ME PERMISSION!

CHAOKOCartoons · Post by **CHAOKOCartoons** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:15 pm

You have been permitted, so long as you credit me in your sig.

Saturn381 · Post by **Saturn381** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:35 pm

Nice job, guys.

Amazee Dayzee · Post by **Amazee Dayzee** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:40 pm

I have a feeling my avatar is gonna give people night terrors.