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2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:31 am
by D-Rock
[ 2022/09/09 - Demonology ]
Title Text: Why ruin a good thing!
Eudoant, you might want to work on your haggling skills
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:54 am
by Welsh Halfwit
All that is needed, for good to regret,
is the knowledge that they made the danger.
When played against the universal truth
they find that the demon’s not a stranger.
Kit’s first shou was for his noble lady;
an action that proves he really feels love
but, right now, he needs to concentrate more;
the world’s in need of a Hawk, not a Dove.
The battle tumbles through the power of talk;
as Bahamut tells of his foul feeling.
Once again Kit’s main skill is shining through;
getting them to talk can be revealing.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:18 am
by SeanWolf
For once and only once, I agree with Kitsune...Demons aren't that smart.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:30 am
by MrBlueSky7
So, what is Eudoant trying to accomplish then? Do they want to destroy the Mana out of pure pride and hubris then?
Interesting how their little speech echoes what Demon-Steward brought up pages ago though...
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:22 am
by SeanWolf
MrBlueSky7 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:30 am
So, what is Eudoant trying to accomplish then? Do they want to destroy the Mana out of pure pride and hubris then?
Interesting how their little speech echoes what Demon-Steward brought up pages ago though...
I don't think he even has a plan or even thought his current plan out. Judging by this page, he's just "RAH I'M DEMON SO I DO BAD THINGS!"
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:50 am
by PhycoKrusk
The current plan appears to be, "Get the mana to elevate to a higher level of awareness and understanding. Once I am at that higher level, I will know what to do next." It's not particularly elaborate, but not that bad a plan.
Given the response to Kitsune's question, it doesn't appear that Eudoant even cares about changing the status quo. The rationale is, "The mana it's there for anyone to take. I am 'anyone', therefore I am allowed to take it." Again, not particularly elaborate, but not invalid.
Lastly, and I actually do need some help with this one, but what has Eudoant done in the pursuit of this goal that is actually evil?
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:59 am
by Welsh Halfwit
PhycoKrusk wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:50 am
The current plan appears to be, "Get the mana to elevate to a higher level of awareness and understanding. Once I am at that higher level, I will know what to do next." It's not particularly elaborate, but not that bad a plan.
Given the response to Kitsune's question, it doesn't appear that Eudoant even cares about changing the status quo. The rationale is, "The mana it's there for anyone to take. I am 'anyone', therefore I am allowed to take it." Again, not particularly elaborate, but not invalid.
Lastly, and I actually do need some help with this one, but what has Eudoant done in the pursuit of this goal that is actually evil?
Apart from unleashing a demon psychobadger on the city and implying that Steward's plan was inconsequential because he was going to destroy the earth?
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:10 am
by PhycoKrusk
Welsh Halfwit wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:59 am
Apart from unleashing a demon psychobadger on the city and implying that Steward's plan was inconsequential because he was going to destroy the earth?
Ah, but an implication is not an action; it is not evil to
imply something (even if it is kind of a jerk move).
As for the "demon psychobadger," Steward's own words reveal that he was acting in the way he was because he
assumed that's the way that demons acted. Even then, he tried very, very hard to make sure he did not permanently harm anyone, so assumptions or not, he wasn't really committed to being evil.
So, again, what has Eudoant done that is actually evil?
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:26 am
by D-Rock
Enslaved Keene?
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:29 am
by NHWestoN
Perhaps it's not so much what she's done yet, as to the diabolical purposes Eudoant intends for the manna power once the Infernals control it.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:44 am
by Amazee Dayzee
We now know that Kitsune knows that Kix and the others are watching the battle because he called out to her. But he must only care about her since he called her out by name.
Yeah I know that he meant everybody but I just wanted to joke about it a bit.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:34 pm
by NHWestoN
Yeah, kinda hard to do a full-name cast call when someones trying to punch your teeth down your throat.
Incidentally, maybe it's just me, but has the shape of Eudoant's muzzle changed? Previously, it was more bunted and a little longer and now it looks shorter and has a slightly-upturned snout ... Or not.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:43 pm
by Cesco
It's an hard fight, and shouldn't be only Kix to be out from there...
Actually, if other mana was left in that temple, a demon would wish it...
Well, Eudoant, that's what you demons are made and work for, and you even admit that wouldn't change anything if you were in charge.
Good to know, Great Kitsune, eheh.
Words won't be enough to end this fight, anyway...
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:01 pm
by SeanWolf
Just a random thought: What if, when Eudoant tried to use the mana...it actually backfired, due to a safeguard a Celestial put on the mana to prevent misuse, and, as a example, turned him good?
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:50 pm
by NHWestoN
SeanWolf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:01 pm
Just a random thought: What if, when Eudoant tried to use the mana...it actually backfired, due to a safeguard a Celestial put on the mana to prevent misuse, and, as a example, turned him good?
I like the way your mind works, Sean.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:48 pm
by Amazee Dayzee
I wouldn't mind seeing what a good Eudoant would end up doing and how he would try to repent if possible.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:12 am
by PhycoKrusk
SeanWolf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:01 pm
Just a random thought: What if, when Eudoant tried to use the mana...it actually backfired, due to a safeguard a Celestial put on the mana to prevent misuse, and, as a example, turned him good?
Well, you know what they say: Never consume an energy field bigger than your head.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:15 am
by SeanWolf
PhycoKrusk wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:12 am
SeanWolf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:01 pm
Just a random thought: What if, when Eudoant tried to use the mana...it actually backfired, due to a safeguard a Celestial put on the mana to prevent misuse, and, as a example, turned him good?
Well, you know what they say: Never consume an energy field bigger than your head.
Yep and to add to that thought: What if it not only turned him good...but into a legit baby version of himself? Allowing Kitsune and Kix to raise him alongside Draig and Craig?
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:35 am
by Harry Johnathan
Imagine the mana just kills Eudoant.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:51 am
by SeanWolf
Harry Johnathan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:35 am
Imagine the mana just kills Eudoant.
Or and this is just being funny: Eudoant goes to touch the mana but his MOTHER comes in and scolds him for being a "Very naughty boy!" and takes him back home.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:55 am
by Amazee Dayzee
I am now imagining that and laughing out loud. I so do need that to happen.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:53 pm
by VeryAngryDeer
NHWestoN wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:34 pm
Yeah, kinda hard to do a full-name cast call when someones trying to punch your teeth down your throat.
Incidentally, maybe it's just me, but has the shape of Eudoant's muzzle changed? Previously, it was more bunted and a little longer and now it looks shorter and has a slightly-upturned snout ... Or not.
Could've just said "you lot!"
Eudoant seems to be in a special fighting form, like Kitsune is. Note the skeleton tail with the scythe on the end, the line patterns, and I swear he didn't have horns before.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:56 pm
by D-Rock
They were initially very short.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:46 am
by Amazee Dayzee
Yeah I remember that. You had to look VERY hard to see them.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:53 pm
by andwhyisit
MrBlueSky7 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:30 amSo, what is Eudoant trying to accomplish then? Do they want to destroy the Mana out of pure pride and hubris then?
I suspect that they want the freedom to operate on the mortal plane without worrying about being persecuted by heaven.
Re: 2022/09/09 - Demonology
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:20 am
by Amazee Dayzee
That makes a lot of sense now that I think about it so it probably is the reason.