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2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:02 am
by Obbl
[ Some Things Are Universal ]

Title Text: such as: hospitality, polite laughter, dad jokes

and the wife smacking the husband for bringing his dad jokes to the dinner table

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:03 am
by Saturn381
It's nice to see Mr. and Mrs. Sandwich again. :)

Also, I love Satau in panel 3. :lol:

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:04 am
by Gbr23
Oh no ... Dad jokes

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:04 am
by D-Rock
Apparently "rolling with it" is something that even the ancients mastered.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:06 am
by Douglas Collier
The thing about a play on words is it doesn't usually translate very well.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:08 am
by Macsen
Fun fact: deliberate mummification didn't begin in Egypt until about 2600 BC. So Satau probably genuinely doesn't know what Earl is joking about.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:16 am
by Douglas Collier
He probably gets the idea, seeing as he's under a spell of mutual understanding (he got the concept of electricity, after all); but I guess the idea of "a dried up corpse wrapped in cloth" isn't all that funny.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:20 am
by rickgriffin
I don't know how well a spell of mutual understanding would facilitate puns

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:21 am
by Welsh Halfwit
Douglas Collier wrote:He probably gets the idea, seeing as he's under a spell of mutual understanding. But I guess the idea of "a dried up corpse wrapped in cloth" doesn't really seem that funny.
Nope. He may know the word but, without the context that wasn't around in his time, he would have no idea about Earl's joke. It would be like me saying to someone from the 15th century 'get me a Sandwich'. They wouldn't know what I meant unless I told them it was two pieces of bread around a filling.

Eating with the Human Sandwiches,
with no idea what a Sandwich is,
Satau makes his mark in the Peanut world,
whilst Grape?
She keeps her thoughts tightly furled.
There's no sign of our magnificent moggy
as she leaves things to the muscled dog, he
listens to the worst joke Peanut's ever heard -
dad jokes?
They really are bad; lethally absurd.
You're out of time and running on politeness
as you ponder your way through this… slight mess,
so staying in well with the humans is good aim.
Who knows?
Maybe it's not just losers in this game?

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:23 am
by D-Rock
Well, that's the main issue of translation and culture. Actually interesting how many jokes just don't work in other languages. Puns are probably even more affected by this. I'm helping a guy learn English at work, and he has told me how odd a translation can be. I agree with him.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:51 am
by King's Men14
I'm like Satau, I have no idea what to say.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:37 am
by IceKitsune
Yep that is pretty Universal

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:48 am
by CHAOKOCartoons
Douglas Collier wrote:He probably gets the idea, seeing as he's under a spell of mutual understanding (he got the concept of electricity, after all); but I guess the idea of "a dried up corpse wrapped in cloth" isn't all that funny.
rickgriffin wrote:I don't know how well a spell of mutual understanding would facilitate puns
Especially puns using foreign terms. The spell came from Tarot, Tarot lives in America, Mummy is a term in british culture for mother but that isn't required to understand them since they live in America and wouldn't use that term normally. So on top of it being a pun, the meat of the pun would go right over his head.
And yes, I am overthinking this! :lol:
Welsh Halfwit wrote:Nope. He may know the word but, without the context that wasn't around in his time, he would have no idea about Earl's joke. It would be like me saying to someone from the 15th century 'get me a Sandwich'. They wouldn't know what I meant unless I told them it was two pieces of bread around a filling.

This as well.

Also I just wanna say that Satau is slowly becoming my favorite. :D

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:13 am
by valerio
"If she's your mummy, why does she scare you?" "EARL!" *slaps ubbie*

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:38 am
by Discostew
And to think I'm watching Doctor Who.......

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Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:04 am
by IdleCurator
I knew "are you my mummy?" would come into this, it just had to happen. So I take it that the sandwich household just doesn't ask any questions about the on goings of there pets world.
Random muscly jackal, better invite him to dinner.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:13 am
by Carlitosfmc
Poor Satau. At least he's very polite with the laugh and all xD

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:40 am
by Perfesser_Bear
Kitch wrote:Fun fact: deliberate mummification didn't begin in Egypt until about 2600 BC. So Satau probably genuinely doesn't know what Earl is joking about.
Well, Wikipedia says "about 3400 BCE," but if Satau comes from 5000 BCE (still around 1,600 years earlier), it doesn't make any difference to him. After all, 7,000 is a long time in dog years.

A few years ago, I wrote a story about Anubis, who was puzzled by the Humans turning their noble dead into jerky...
Obbl wrote:Some Things Are Universal

Title Text: such as: hospitality, polite laughter, dad jokes

and the wife smacking the husband for bringing his dad jokes to the dinner table
Oh, thanks. Now I've got Jimmy Buffett in my head, singing Dad Jokes to the tune of Boat Drinks. Maybe Welshie can come up with the new lyrics.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:04 pm
by Cesco
I get what you mean, Satau. ;) I'm liking this ancient dog more and more, he's so funny. :D Instead, Earl isn't that much funny. What a bad joke. :P The third panel is great. :) Actually, Satau has no idea of what Earl is talking about, but well, he's laughing at that, no? So, let's laugh together! :lol:
Is Grape eating at the table too? Probably yes, and surely she's like here again. :P

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:59 pm
by Argent
Douglas Collier wrote:The thing about a play on words is it doesn't usually translate very well.
Especially since he heard it as ᚘ ฤ ෴ ๛ ౾ ටට ഌ န ᐇ!

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:28 pm
by DigitalBrave3
Well, bad jokes are bad jokes.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:51 pm
by cuteycindyhoney
I'm really liking how Satau is just going with the flow here. Mr. Sandwich does have to work on his humor though!

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:17 am
by Frank
Argent wrote:
Douglas Collier wrote:The thing about a play on words is it doesn't usually translate very well.
Especially since he heard it as ᚘ ฤ ෴ ๛ ౾ ටට ഌ န ᐇ!
Do we know that, though? It could be a spell that lets him know English, as opposed to just translate it

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:36 am
by copper
My favorite part about this whole arc has been Satau's body language. It just seems so fluid!

Well, I would classify these as both dad jokes AND Earl jokes. This is a man who named his pets peanut butter and grape jelly and married a woman named Jill after all. :roll:

By the way, what is that meal? Pork chops and mashed sweet potatoes?

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:52 am
by Argent
Frank wrote:
Argent wrote:
Douglas Collier wrote:The thing about a play on words is it doesn't usually translate very well.
Especially since he heard it as ᚘ ฤ ෴ ๛ ౾ ටට ഌ န ᐇ!
Do we know that, though? It could be a spell that lets him know English, as opposed to just translate it
So, you think you can stomp on my Unicode joke with your cruel jackboots of logic. Well... OK, you can!

That would be more useful, if it made a change in his mind he doesn't have to worry about it wearing off. Kind of powerful, though.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:58 am
by GameCobra
Like how Peanut just casually looks at him as he shrugs. Guess Satau is lost on this one. Don't we usually depict royalties doing this stuff all the time? Are you royalty, Earl?!?

Satau: Ehhhhh, iunno...

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:13 pm
by Sleet
rickgriffin wrote:I don't know how well a spell of mutual understanding would facilitate puns
If ancient poems in Redwall can still rhyme when translated, I'm sure this works too!

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:15 pm
by Buster
Sleet wrote:
rickgriffin wrote:I don't know how well a spell of mutual understanding would facilitate puns
If ancient poems in Redwall can still rhyme when translated, I'm sure this works too!
unless said rhymes are the result of the translator actively correcting for the idiosyncrasies of the translation.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:21 pm
by Argent
Sleet wrote:
rickgriffin wrote:I don't know how well a spell of mutual understanding would facilitate puns
If ancient poems in Redwall can still rhyme when translated, I'm sure this works too!
It's really amazing how well the translators of Asterix managed to retain or at least reconstruct the puns that littered every page.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:27 pm
by Whozjama
If he's Chief Dog...who was Chief Cat? Pretty sure cats were liked as well back then.

Re: 2015/08/10 - Some Things Are Universal

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:31 pm
by Amazee Dayzee
I really wish that we did have a shot of Jill smacking her husband. I know I would. :lol: