Housepets!

Very Cute Shyanne And good work Zander!

just a gift art for a very close friend of mine.

Very Cute Shyanne!

Same picture, but with anti-alaised lines and converted to vector.

No, i sketch it on bristol paper, which i get at my local hobby lobby, then i outline it with my steadtler, or my Prismacolorpens, both somewhere between 14-20$, after which i use pink erasers, (cheap, at walmart.) to erase the sketch marks from the pencil, because of the quality of the pens, they stay behind, but the pencil erases. after which i put it on my Hp Scanjet 4890 scanner(500$), and set the feature to "black and white" and set the dpi to 200 (unless i want it a high res, it goes up to 10,000).
I color it in photoshop, (no advanced settings needed, since the lines are alaised all you need is the paint-bucket tool. Then i put it through a licensed version of 'Vector magic' which converts it to lines and strokes, and makes it so i can change it to any size and not loose definition.

x3

oh, and sure, but im working on my com- COMPETION! uhh.. yeah.. thats what i was going to say.. *runs off*

oh, and to show the size of some of my drawings, the above character's eye is the size of my thumb-nail.

Zander wrote:No, i sketch it on bristol paper, which i get at my local hobby lobby, then i outline it with my steadtler, or my Prismacolorpens, both somewhere between 14-20$, after which i use pink erasers, (cheap, at walmart.) to erase the sketch marks from the pencil, because of the quality of the pens, they stay behind, but the pencil erases. after which i put it on my Hp Scanjet 4890 scanner(500$), and set the feature to "black and white" and set the dpi to 200 (unless i want it a high res, it goes up to 10,000).
I color it in photoshop, (no advanced settings needed, since the lines are alaised all you need is the paint-bucket tool. Then i put it through a licensed version of 'Vector magic' which converts it to lines and strokes, and makes it so i can change it to any size and not loose definition.

x3

oh, and sure, but im working on my com- COMPETION! uhh.. yeah.. thats what i was going to say.. *runs off*

oh, and to show the size of some of my drawings, the above character's eye is the size of my thumb-nail.

see i try to use my scanner..but when i use black and white there are these small black dots around the picture though.. http://www.amazon.com/HP-Deskjet-F4280- ... B0015ZLHRE so i outline with micron pens and have to take a digital picture and then touch up the outlines/run it through a few filters on photoshop sadly it takes awhile.. :C maybe i should use the paper that you use..maybe that's it..or my crappy scanner..oh well..so er is that a yes or no for the trade? lol

Shyanne wrote:

Zander wrote:No, i sketch it on bristol paper, which i get at my local hobby lobby, then i outline it with my steadtler, or my Prismacolorpens, both somewhere between 14-20$, after which i use pink erasers, (cheap, at walmart.) to erase the sketch marks from the pencil, because of the quality of the pens, they stay behind, but the pencil erases. after which i put it on my Hp Scanjet 4890 scanner(500$), and set the feature to "black and white" and set the dpi to 200 (unless i want it a high res, it goes up to 10,000).
I color it in photoshop, (no advanced settings needed, since the lines are alaised all you need is the paint-bucket tool. Then i put it through a licensed version of 'Vector magic' which converts it to lines and strokes, and makes it so i can change it to any size and not loose definition.

x3

oh, and sure, but im working on my com- COMPETION! uhh.. yeah.. thats what i was going to say.. *runs off*

oh, and to show the size of some of my drawings, the above character's eye is the size of my thumb-nail.

see i try to use my scanner..but when i use black and white there are these small black dots around the picture though.. http://www.amazon.com/HP-Deskjet-F4280- ... B0015ZLHRE so i outline with micron pens and have to take a digital picture and then touch up the outlines/run it through a few filters on photoshop sadly it takes awhile.. :C maybe i should use the paper that you use..maybe that's it..or my crappy scanner..oh well..so er is that a yes or no for the trade? lol

yes its a yes. And i don't think its your scanner, wait, do you sketch it in pencil first? then outline it and scan it?
Have you tried erasing the pencil, after you've traced over it? x3

All the pieces of Art that I atempt to scan into the computer always come out looking awful... I have no idea why...

Vespier Leo wrote:All the pieces of Art that I atempt to scan into the computer always come out looking awful... I have no idea why... :(

that up there^^

is essentially what comes out of my scanner. no editing. x3

Than you sir are much better at this than I!

Zander wrote:

Vespier Leo wrote:All the pieces of Art that I atempt to scan into the computer always come out looking awful... I have no idea why...

that up there^^

is essentially what comes out of my scanner. no editing. x3

yeah i sketch in pencil, then outline in micron pens, then i erase the pencil markings..and it still gives me little dot residue if i use the black and white setting..but if i do greyscale the dots are gone but it's a grey outline and is a pain to try to edit to get it back to black..so I'd still have to edit it..I think it is my printer..mainly cause it was only $50 new lol

Zander wrote:Same picture, but with anti-alaised lines and converted to vector.

I see a flaw in the vectorization, right below the sun. The lines are broken.(probably because the lines in the original drawing were not thick enough for the program that vectorized, bad settings) I like using inkscape to vectorize things(trace bitmaps), not sure how what you use works, but with inkscape(which is free) I can change the thresholds. O_o

Anyways, about the actual image. The head fluff looks kind of weird, or maybe its just the anatomy of the head is a bit off?

Shyanne wrote:could someone explain to me anti-aliasing, vector, etc in a very simple man so I can understand? lol i dont use any of that stuffs..maybe I should..

(technical terms explained)
Anti-aliasing

In digital signal processing, spatial anti-aliasing is the technique of minimizing the distortion artifacts known as aliasing when representing a high-resolution image at a lower resolution. Anti-aliasing is used in digital photography, computer graphics, digital audio, and many other applications.

Basically, it smooths lines.(in low resolution, such as most monitors, such as monitors. at 300 DPI, which is the printing pixel density, pixels are too small for this to be necessary)
It's automatically used in most programs out there when drawing with tools such as the paintbrush(or equivalent)
Vectors

Vector graphics is the use of geometrical primitives such as points, lines, curves, and shapes or polygon(s), which are all based on mathematical equations, to represent images in computer graphics.

Explains vectors pretty well too. Basically, instead of bitmaps/raster images, which is basically an array of dots. It's what's explained above.

There are programs out there that can "convert" a bitmap into a very basic vector. By simply tracing the lines, and recreating them in lines and curves. This process is called vectorization. There are various programs that can do it. The one zander mentioned above, or inkscape.(there are others, but i can't recall of them from the top of my head) They work best on images that are clear and have sharp lines. Otherwise you get messed up results.

This image visualizes the difference between vectors and bitmaps.

ReCreate wrote:

Shyanne wrote:could someone explain to me anti-aliasing, vector, etc in a very simple man so I can understand? lol i dont use any of that stuffs..maybe I should..

(technical terms explained)
Anti-aliasing

In digital signal processing, spatial anti-aliasing is the technique of minimizing the distortion artifacts known as aliasing when representing a high-resolution image at a lower resolution. Anti-aliasing is used in digital photography, computer graphics, digital audio, and many other applications.

Basically, it smooths lines.(in low resolution, such as most monitors, such as monitors. at 300 DPI, which is the printing pixel density, pixels are too small for this to be necessary)
It's automatically used in most programs out there when drawing with tools such as the paintbrush(or equivalent)
Vectors

Vector graphics is the use of geometrical primitives such as points, lines, curves, and shapes or polygon(s), which are all based on mathematical equations, to represent images in computer graphics.

Explains vectors pretty well too. Basically, instead of bitmaps/raster images, which is basically an array of dots. It's what's explained above.

There are programs out there that can "convert" a bitmap into a very basic vector. By simply tracing the lines, and recreating them in lines and curves. This process is called vectorization. There are various programs that can do it. The one zander mentioned above, or inkscape.(there are others, but i can't recall of them from the top of my head) They work best on images that are clear and have sharp lines. Otherwise you get messed up results.

This image visualizes the difference between vectors and bitmaps.

So would my pictures be bitmap then? And is there any freeware programs that convert pics into vectors?

Yes, unless if you draw in.. flash or inkscape(which are some of the most commonly used programs for that)
And yes, inkscape. It's free.(open source and cross platform)

ReCreate wrote:Yes, unless if you draw in.. flash or inkscape(which are some of the most commonly used programs for that)
And yes, inkscape. It's free.(open source and cross platform)

I draw traditionally though..I edit my works in photoshop..

ReCreate wrote:

Zander wrote:Same picture, but with anti-alaised lines and converted to vector.

I see a flaw in the vectorization, right below the sun. The lines are broken.(probably because the lines in the original drawing were not thick enough for the program that vectorized, bad settings) I like using inkscape to vectorize things(trace bitmaps), not sure how what you use works, but with inkscape(which is free) I can change the thresholds. O_o

Anyways, about the actual image. The head fluff looks kind of weird, or maybe its just the anatomy of the head is a bit off?

well, the program i'm using has many more features than inkscape, but as i said before, it wasn't free.

Zander wrote:

ReCreate wrote:

Zander wrote:Same picture, but with anti-alaised lines and converted to vector.

I see a flaw in the vectorization, right below the sun. The lines are broken.(probably because the lines in the original drawing were not thick enough for the program that vectorized, bad settings) I like using inkscape to vectorize things(trace bitmaps), not sure how what you use works, but with inkscape(which is free) I can change the thresholds. O_o

Anyways, about the actual image. The head fluff looks kind of weird, or maybe its just the anatomy of the head is a bit off?

well, the program i'm using has many more features than inkscape, but as i said before, it wasn't free.

I see very little(if not none) of the features that this has that inkscape doesn't actually utilized in that image though.

ReCreate wrote: I see very little(if not none) of the features that this has that inkscape doesn't actually utilized in that image though. :P

because i was too lazy to choose the "advanced option" >_>

That has GOT to be the cutest drawing iv'e ever seen of him x333333333333

<3

heres my side, its shyanne playing with paper rolls pretending to be some sort of magic person x3
when he realizes he is o_o

Zander wrote:That has GOT to be the cutest drawing iv'e ever seen of him x333333333333

<3

heres my side, its shyanne playing with paper rolls pretending to be some sort of magic person x3
when he realizes he is o_o

Im glad you like it. urs is very cute :3 Thanks!

More good artwork!... I wish I could get mine to work on the computer....

those guys wrote:lots of technical junk im to lazy to read and stupid to understand

GOD I WISH I KNEW WHAT YOU SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Psykeout wrote:

those guys wrote:lots of technical junk im to lazy to read and stupid to understand

GOD I WISH I KNEW WHAT YOU SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand it, and its hard for me to realise not everyone can.x3

I read it, but I only understand part of it. My knoledge of computers is next to nonexistaint. I do want to post some of my artwork here though. If i can ever get it to look right on the computer.. Curse you Technology!

Tis a Cute picture Shyanne.. I have never heard of the Show though...

...Anyone interested in drawing for me? o3o

What do you want drawn?

Shyanne wrote:Edit: and yes I'm back to a red fox

*swats with newspaper*
CONSISTENCY!!!!!!!!

Psykeout wrote:

Shyanne wrote:Edit: and yes I'm back to a red fox

*swats with newspaper*
CONSISTENCY!!!!!!!!

sorry! XD anyway....I think I still have a pair of safety scissors like that somewhere..A request for someone over on FA.

Random kitty doodle! |D

D'AWWWWWWWWWW

More good Art. Both very cute!

NickCole wrote:Random kitty doodle! |D

oh my god thats adorable!