Re: 2014/07/28 - In the Pudding
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:35 am
Transformation MASTERED!
So, can be do his at will now?
So, can be do his at will now?
dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria
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Wonder Joel powers ACTIVATE! Form of....a cute corgi!Goforit wrote:[ In the Pudding ]
Title Text: you think you know a guy
Does being able to turn into a corgi at will count as a superpower...?
You're right on the fact that in the HP world, being human implies a ton of advantages over animal kingdom.Gren wrote:Cause being a human is awesome?
What do you think is so special about dogs in Housepets? As far as I can tell they're not much different than kids and teenagers in our world, you know.
If you think all what humans can do is work and study then you really are a close-minded person. Besides, isn't these all what Itsuki usually does? Then you must think he's a bad character too.
From what I have seen through these years HP! has a really good cast of human characters. Celia and Thomas starred the only human focused arc in the series and they did it great. Bill and Jeff are the coolest guys in the whole cast. Earl and Jill Sandwich are between the funniest. And let's not start with the silliness of Mr. London. X3
And do not forget that King was originally a human. I don't think he would want to abandon his other self so easily unless he must have to.
Hey, now! I know he said he would go on to stay human in a bit of a negative fashion, but to say he considers it a punishment seems too much! And why did you write it in all capitals, anyway?valerio wrote:And you better reconsider your ideas about King: He has clearly stated that turning back to human forever would be a PUNISHMENT he'd take if it's serve to help Bailey.
Don't start that again, Nancy.Silly Zealot wrote:And why does Argent not want to be called Shirley? It's a nice name for him!
It's actually "The Proof of the Pudding is in the Eating".dryideabat wrote:This will be interesting. I wonder how the Milton's and all of their resources will be able to help in this cosmic case. Also, I never really liked/understood the saying "the proof is in the pudding."
Soooo...... they're saying that you won't know how alcoholic the pudding might be until you've had some?dryideabat wrote:It's actually "The Proof of the Pudding is in the Eating".
Welp hard to imagine that he'd enjoy go back to being human if it meant losing everything he's fighting for and that made his life worth living after so much misery. Reverting to his older self, in this context, does sound like punishment or sacrifice.Silly Zealot wrote:Hey, now! I know he said he would go on to stay human in a bit of a negative fashion, but to say he considers it a punishment seems too much! And why did you write it in all capitals, anyway?valerio wrote:And you better reconsider your ideas about King: He has clearly stated that turning back to human forever would be a PUNISHMENT he'd take if it's serve to help Bailey.
You win an Internet.gamepopper wrote:If only there was a shock collar remote, then King would have the ultimate revenge! >:3Hedronal wrote:Heaven forbid that someone, such as a "fuzzy snake" takes it as leverage, or Bino trys to take it again.
Just because you gets stressed thinking about the future doesn't mean every person in the world does the same. Of course everyone worries about their future and wants it to be as best as possible, but at the same time you have to live the right here right now and have as much fun as you can. That's how I roll. Instead of living scared or daydreaming about the uncertain future I prefer to enjoy the moment, doing what I can at present and not letting pass opportunities. If you live your life only thinking about what could it be then I guarantee you that your life will be full of regrets.Deske wrote:I dunno, I'd rather mess about and not really have to worry too much about the world. Sure they may be nearly the equivalent of children or teenagers there's still a fairly large difference. I mean, while I have to worry about what kind of life I have when I'm out of school, I'm fairly sure Fox doesn't really have to worry about what he's gonna do. I stress out about stuff all the time in high school because apparently it's important, but my real life dog does nothing but greet me everyday and want to play games or sit in the sun. I'd rather be a dog and not have to worry than stress out as much as I do right now.
Not everyone owns pets. Celia, Thomas and Mr. London don't own pets as far as I know, and they're as good as any other character.Deske wrote:Also its pretty understandable for the other humans, they're owners, they're gonna play some part. But Joel doesn't really own King as an owner. I just don't see him having much to do besides normal things.
It's not about advantages nor legal things what I'm talking about. It's about opportunities. Humans can do pretty much what they want as long as it's not against the laws. Pets, on the other hand, only are able to do what their owners allow them to do. Not everyone is as pampered as Fox or Sabrina. Some of them have a very restricted liberty and others are mistreated and abused. Yes, it is true that there are humans who suffer a similar treatment but I can assure you that this is far more common in animals. And animals too have to worry about human laws, cause if they do something which is considered a crime then it's highly probable that they'll have to pay for that with their lives (as it's common to see on TV when dogs attack people or a dangerous wild animal enters in a populated area).valerio wrote:You're right on the fact that in the HP world, being human implies a ton of advantages over animal kingdom.
After that, being a pet may be or not awesome according to what one wants to do with own's life. If you really don't care about certain responsiblities, getting a job, pay taxes, etc., then a pet life IS awesome. It comes with the legal downside but, after all, unless you're the top shark, even in human world there is mistreatment, abuse, slavery more or less legal, etc.
I'm sure he said that assuming that remain as human would mean to be away from Bailey. THAT would be the real punishment. But as Bahamut said, Bailey also thinks the same, and I don't think she hates to be a dog. It's not about their physical form what they worry about. They don't even mind about that as long as they can be together.valerio wrote:And you better reconsider your ideas about King: He has clearly stated that turning back to human forever would be a PUNISHMENT he'd take if it's serve to help Bailey.
He took the watch from around his neck and changed back to Joel so...colliefan wrote:So while he's holding onto the watch/wearing it he's King, but when he's not holding the watch the spell is broken and he's Joel again?
Eating live birds and mice, getting kidnapped from a dog park, riding under a car, panicking because they don't have their collars on, spending their lives in a pet shelter, playing with a rubber bone, licking the grease off an old frying pan, forgetting to cook the meat at the barbecue, playing "last predator standing", ...Gren wrote:Also, letting aside the Miltons and the whole cosmic thing, all what pets do ARE normal things. Hanging out with friends, having relationships, drawing comics, read books, writing fanfictions, play games, assist at meetings... I can make a huge list and I can't find a single thing that humans don't do as well. Obviously cause all of those things are normal humans' stuff.
As Fox says when King asks him about it, this isn't about "other dogs".Gren wrote:It's not about advantages nor legal things what I'm talking about. It's about opportunities. Humans can do pretty much what they want as long as it's not against the laws. Pets, on the other hand, only are able to do what their owners allow them to do. Not everyone is as pampered as Fox or Sabrina.
Fine, we'll cal you Nancy if you prefer it. After all, you deserve to be granted such a request.Argent wrote:Don't start that again, Nancy.Silly Zealot wrote:And why does Argent not want to be called Shirley? It's a nice name for him!
Alright, but why do you keep reminding us of how he prefers to stay a dog and be with Bailey so much?valerio wrote:Welp hard to imagine that he'd enjoy go back to being human if it meant losing everything he's fighting for and that made his life worth living after so much misery. Reverting to his older self, in this context, does sound like punishment or sacrifice.
And I only used capital to underline the fact, not to shout
One of my key enjoyments as well. That, and seeing them trying to work out a human relationship with these traits in mind. =PArgent wrote:live birds and mice, getting kidnapped from a dog park, riding under a car, panicking because they don't have their collars on, spending their lives in a pet shelter, playing with a rubber bone, licking the grease off an old frying pan, forgetting to cook the meat at the barbecue, playing "last predator standing", ...
The ways that they're not like humans is one of the coolest things about this strip.
Are you sure he won't betray Pete, his 'ally' who's done absolutely nothing for him?GameCobra wrote:Now this is an interesting twist. I figured Keene would be supporting Bailey somehow, but by helping King or backstabbing King?
I also bet King is going to the temple with Keene with plans to replace Bailey's Avatar with someone else. It seems very likely it will be King, but something tells me he has his own trick up his sleeve...
Mabye King will somehow make Joel Pete's avatar, then switch back to King again, but then Pete will have NO avater cuz King and Joel are the same soul in 2 "people"!GameCobra wrote:Now this is an interesting twist. I figured Keene would be supporting Bailey somehow, but by helping King or backstabbing King?
I also bet King is going to the temple with Keene with plans to replace Bailey's Avatar with someone else. It seems very likely it will be King, but something tells me he has his own trick up his sleeve...
One of my key enjoyments as well. That, and seeing them trying to work out a human relationship with these traits in mind. =PArgent wrote:live birds and mice, getting kidnapped from a dog park, riding under a car, panicking because they don't have their collars on, spending their lives in a pet shelter, playing with a rubber bone, licking the grease off an old frying pan, forgetting to cook the meat at the barbecue, playing "last predator standing", ...
The ways that they're not like humans is one of the coolest things about this strip.
Hey! We humans can do all those things too!GameCobra wrote:One of my key enjoyments as well. That, and seeing them trying to work out a human relationship with these traits in mind. =PArgent wrote:live birds and mice, getting kidnapped from a dog park, riding under a car, panicking because they don't have their collars on, spending their lives in a pet shelter, playing with a rubber bone, licking the grease off an old frying pan, forgetting to cook the meat at the barbecue, playing "last predator standing", ...
The ways that they're not like humans is one of the coolest things about this strip.
Now, that is a preposterous assumption!Welsh Halfwit wrote:Are you sure he won't betray Pete, his 'ally' who's done absolutely nothing for him?
Now that you mention it, he does look like he could be a red ranger.SeanWolf wrote:Call me silly, but when King turned back into Joel using his watch, for some reason I thought of Power Rangers. *sings quietly* Go, Go, Housepet Rangers!
Don't forget, Keene still has one (1) piece of mana. Unless he did something dumb like eat it.dryideabat wrote:This will be interesting. I wonder how the Milton's and all of their resources will be able to help in this cosmic case.
Most of that are metaphors of humans things. The rest is just rule of fun (cause we know a cat in RL will never eat a live bird or mouse ).Argent wrote:Eating live birds and mice, getting kidnapped from a dog park, riding under a car, panicking because they don't have their collars on, spending their lives in a pet shelter, playing with a rubber bone, licking the grease off an old frying pan, forgetting to cook the meat at the barbecue, playing "last predator standing", ...
Well, I think that the ways they are like us is what makes this comic so funny and the reason of why we can relate with them.Argent wrote:The ways that they're not like humans is one of the coolest things about this strip.
I was talking in General. That was a completely separate discussion of King's situation.Argent wrote:As Fox says when King asks him about it, this isn't about "other dogs".
King's owned by billionaire ferrets. How can you get a better deal than that?
That's not what I got.Gren wrote:But now that you point King, you must know that the whole thing with King and the wolves is a time bomb. They're actually not owned by anyone and technically their situation is not fully legal.
And who is running the Milton Estate? Ferrets. Hence they're not owned by anyone.Argent wrote:He's saying that he isn't their owner not that they have no owner. Logically, they're owned by the Milton Estate, like the ferrets.
Unless he has to WISH on the watch to change.Cesco wrote: That's really curious, though, so now Joel can be King only when he has the watch in his hands or in contact with him? Never get separated from it!
Hmm, tricky here. If you take Feraga, you can see that animals CAN live with a high degree of autonomy and be an autonomous political entity at that.Gren wrote:It's not about advantages nor legal things what I'm talking about. It's about opportunities. Humans can do pretty much what they want as long as it's not against the laws. Pets, on the other hand, only are able to do what their owners allow them to do. Not everyone is as pampered as Fox or Sabrina. Some of them have a very restricted liberty and others are mistreated and abused. Yes, it is true that there are humans who suffer a similar treatment but I can assure you that this is far more common in animals. And animals too have to worry about human laws, cause if they do something which is considered a crime then it's highly probable that they'll have to pay for that with their lives (as it's common to see on TV when dogs attack people or a dangerous wild animal enters in a populated area).
Pets too have responsibilities, which is to follow the orders of their owners. Some of them have more complex and crucial responsibilities, such like the K-9 and probably the dogs at the fire station, guide dogs, etc. It's a full time job without any kind of pay other than the love of the people they protect.
And just to be clear, I never said a pet life (in HP!) was awful. It's good as long as you live as pampered and comfortable as most of the pets in BG. But then again, not every place in the world is as pet friendly as Babylon Garden.
true that! But by now it's clear that being human would be his second choice and only under exceptional circumstances.Gren wrote:I'm sure he said that assuming that remain as human would mean to be away from Bailey. THAT would be the real punishment. But as Bahamut said, Bailey also thinks the same, and I don't think she hates to be a dog. It's not about their physical form what they worry about. They don't even mind about that as long as they can be together.
And in case you missed it, at the beginning of that arc King stated that he doesn't hates to be human at all.
No prob. And I don't need to think 'less' of humans, they do such a wonderful job as a species without any encouragement.Gren wrote:PS: Please do not take my comment as if I'm trying to impose you (both of you) what I think. I'm merely giving my thoughts on the matter, defending my point of view, you know. If you think less of humans then I won't stop you.
For the same reason you keep reminding us that he'd love to stay a human (and perhaps with Bailey as human)?Silly Zealot wrote:Alright, but why do you keep reminding us of how he prefers to stay a dog and be with Bailey so much?
I thought Mr Stewart their court appointed Stewart ran the estate.Gren wrote:And who is running the Milton Estate? Ferrets. Hence they're not owned by anyone.Argent wrote:He's saying that he isn't their owner not that they have no owner. Logically, they're owned by the Milton Estate, like the ferrets.
I think you needs to read that first panel again. Even though I'm not a native speaker I think I got it straight:
"I am Keene Milton your new owner, though [ahem] don't go around saying that because it's technically not true for three separate legal reasons."
I think that can't be more clear. In papers he IS his owner because he is the head of the Milton Estate but at the same time is not true cause a pet can't own other pets. Keene himself states that their situation is not fully legal.
Technically, the human employees and officers of the corporation. Like Steward. The mechanism that puts the ferrets in charge is probably a ream of legal knots.Gren wrote:And who is running the Milton Estate?Argent wrote:He's saying that he isn't their owner not that they have no owner. Logically, they're owned by the Milton Estate, like the ferrets.
What would you prefer people call it? A gold band worn around the finger?herobrineharry wrote:To everyone on the previous page: STOP CALLING IT A RING!
No, no, no, you got it all wrong!valerio wrote:For the same reason you keep reminding us that he'd love to stay a human (and perhaps with Bailey as human)?Silly Zealot wrote:Alright, but why do you keep reminding us of how he prefers to stay a dog and be with Bailey so much?
Nancy is right, Gren; While not legally, the ferrets, especially Keene, are the de facto owners of the Milton properties.Argent wrote:He is technically not the owner of the estate, but the actual owner of the estate is a corporate structure that is constrained to operate as if he was.