Are You A Furry?

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:30 pm

That's what i mean. On the whole, most people I've found when you drop preconceived opinions of then and give them an unbiased chance, are just as nice as anyone else. I've personally never had a problem with furries and have mentioned previously that i do have an appreciation for the art though have never been that involved in the fandom.

Anthroguy101 · Post by **Anthroguy101** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:16 am

Come on over to the furry side. Walk towards the cute. Embrace the cute. BE THE CUTE!

KJOokami · Post by **KJOokami** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:04 pm

It's like "the light", only fuzzy and cute.

Post by **Dissension** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:23 pm

We don't condone the 'conversion' mindset.

Post by **Sleet** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:27 pm

We always welcome new furries but it's not like we're trying to convert humans. People will join the fandom if they want to! :3

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:48 pm

Is there a gift basket if i do? I love gift baskets.

Post by **Sleet** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:49 pm

Well you get some dog biscuits...

KJOokami · Post by **KJOokami** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:54 pm

Or some alfalfa, if you prefer.

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:04 pm

Sleet wrote:Well you get some dog biscuits...

I could give them to my avatar i suppose.

Dunno about the alfalfa though.

SirSlappy · Post by **SirSlappy** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:59 pm

Heck, I'll go over to the furry side! Can I have some of them dog biscuits?

Post by **Sleet** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:01 pm

Wow, I didn't expect anyone to decide to be a furry because of that.

SirSlappy · Post by **SirSlappy** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:06 pm

I think I've always been a furry (I've always wanted to turn into wolves and stuff), that was just a good time to tell myself I am.

Post by **Sleet** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:11 pm

Well cool then! Do you have a species?

SirSlappy · Post by **SirSlappy** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:16 pm

Wolf probably. Wolves are cool

KJOokami · Post by **KJOokami** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:29 pm

SirSlappy wrote:Wolves are cool

True... true.

I've always been fascinated by the way wolves are able to harmonize their howls. As an amateur singer who often has trouble finding harmonies, I envy wolves.

Alastair · Post by **Alastair** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:03 pm

KJOokami wrote:
SirSlappy wrote:Wolves are cool
True... true.

I've always been fascinated by the way wolves are able to harmonize their howls. As an amateur singer who often has trouble finding harmonies, I envy wolves.

I'm not that good at singing... But foxes make some weird noises, so that makes sense.

Wouldn't it be weird if most wolf furries are good vocalists?

Post by **Sleet** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:21 pm

Most furries are bad vocalists from my understanding.

Fox noises are scary.

The Grey Wolverine · Post by **The Grey Wolverine** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:24 pm

Sleet wrote:Well you get some dog biscuits...

I actually used to eat dog treats...

I was weird.

Hypergenesis · Post by **Hypergenesis** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:24 pm

Sleet wrote:Most furries are bad vocalists from my understanding.

Fox noises are scary.

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You said something?

Anyways, more onto the topic, fox sounds in the wild do sound weirdly scary since it's a mix of high pitched welps and yelps, though if I remember they do bark as well....

Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:26 pm

fox calls are often the explanation when people hear screaming and thing their house is haunted. hearing them in the middle of the night is unsettling.

KJOokami · Post by **KJOokami** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:26 pm

Sleet wrote:Fox noises are scary.

Dang right, they are.

The Grey Wolverine · Post by **The Grey Wolverine** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:28 pm

And now for something completely different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsgEtNeJ-Ps

Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 pm

okay, that's like the third time you've linked that same video. do you have an endorsement deal with that fox?

The Grey Wolverine · Post by **The Grey Wolverine** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:35 pm

No, just a memory problem, shovel to the head so forgive me if I forget, now for something different altogether: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug1bEKZb ... plpp_video

Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:38 pm

you may have linked that one too, but it was only once. no problem.

Post by **Sleet** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:48 pm

As cute as animal videos (I WARNED YOU ABOUT STAIRS BRO!!!!) are, let's get back on topic.

Alastair · Post by **Alastair** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:58 pm

Sleet wrote:As cute as animal videos (I WARNED YOU ABOUT STAIRS BRO!!!!) are, let's get back on topic.

That's too cute...

And aren't we technically on topic? Furries talking about animals.

Post by **Sleet** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:01 pm

The fandom isn't really about animals unless they're being anthropomorphized in some way. If you want to make an animals thread you're welcome to!

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:07 pm

That's one thing I've wondered about, when does it exit the definition of being "furry" and becoming more animal? I've asked before to another person and the best i can figure is its just based on your own view of it.

Hypergenesis · Post by **Hypergenesis** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:10 pm

Any degree of Anthropomorphism on Animals or any degree of Zoomorphism on Humans can be called a part of the furry fandom.

So to answer your question, it exits being furry when the animal is simply an animal. No human speech or anything. clothing could be an exemption.

Alastair · Post by **Alastair** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:15 pm

Hypergenesis wrote:Any degree of Anthropomorphism on Animals or any degree of Zoomorphism on Humans can be called a part of the furry fandom.

So to answer your question, it exits being furry when the animal is simply an animal. No human speech or anything. clothing could be an exemption.

That's a great explanation, Hyper.

And aren't animals that are anthropomorphisized but still quadruped called "Feral"? I've heard that term before.

KJOokami · Post by **KJOokami** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:20 pm

Inali wrote:And aren't animals that are anthropomorphisized but still quadruped called "Feral"? I've heard that term before.

In the fandom, yes, I believe so.

Though that's also the term used to describe any and all real life animals that started off domesticated which, for one reason or another, are no longer domestic.

Hypergenesis · Post by **Hypergenesis** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:24 pm

Within the fandom, the term feral does indeed refer to pure animals. This is because highly-anthropomorphized animals substitute for "humans" in the idealized society of furries, thus wild (roughly unevolved) animals are designated as feral. However, there is also such thing as "feral form" where the character is drawn out in a pure animal form, but may posses anthropomorphic intelligence.

~~Feral actually only refers to wild animals.~~ What KJ said.

Post by **Sleet** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:26 pm

I like these designations, myself:

Astolpho wrote:In the story universe I'm putting together for The Dawn Chapel (which I'll call the Empyrean, going forward), I wanted to allow for a wide variety of intelligent animal characters that are both humanoid and nonhumanoid, as well as for normal, nonhumanoid animals. And in my mind, it seems like in a culture where you could have a humanoid talking dog, and a talking dog that goes about on all fours, and a dog that is totally normal and does not talk, and has only animal intelligence, there'd be a vocabulary in place that allows for these distinctions.

In the furry world the words I tend to see most often are 'anthro' and 'feral', but I'm not a fan of them myself, and I think that it would be sort of lazy to adopt them into my own stories.

So after a bit of brainstorming I hit upon the idea to adopt language from heraldry. The poses, or 'attitudes' that an animal has on a coat of arms each have their own specific names, and so in the culture of the Empyrean, you'll sometimes see people describing animal characters with these words:

In heraldry, an animal 'salient' is rearing up on two legs, and in the Empyrean, a salient animal is humanoid, or 'anthro'. Hower is a salient german shepherd, Kass is a salient salamander, Pedro's a salient opossum, etc.

An animal 'statant' is standing on all fours, or with one paw raised. A statant animal in the Empyrean is nonhumanoid (or nonanthro), but still in possession of a human intellect, capable of speech, etc. Often, statant animals are a bit bigger than their normal nonsapient counterparts. Astolpho, when I draw him as an adult, is a statant lion.

Finally, an animal 'couchant' is lying on its belly. And in the Empyrean, couchant animals are unintelligent, plain old normal animals.

I've asked him and he has no problems whatsoever with someone else using these.

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:33 pm

Hypergenesis wrote:Any degree of Anthropomorphism on Animals or any degree of Zoomorphism on Humans can be called a part of the furry fandom.

So to answer your question, it exits being furry when the animal is simply an animal. No human speech or anything. clothing could be an exemption.

That actually clears it up pretty well. Thanks!

As was mentioned above, feral was what I was referring to though didn't know that to be the proper term for it.

The Grey Wolverine · Post by **The Grey Wolverine** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:43 pm

Sleet wrote:I like these designations, myself I cut this out as a space saver I've asked him and he has no problems whatsoever with someone else using these.

I use three terms, since the "furrie" creatures are just scientific creations, I have three designations, Abominations are people mixed with more than one type of animal, this leads to rapid mental degeneration and eventually death, Hybrids is what I prefer over anthros since these were made with people messing with human genetics, and ferals were once hybrids, but when they woke up they were unable to cope with the fact that someone had played with their genetic structure like a guitar, and went insane, acting like animals. Just my personal preference, with my current stories I just use hybrids though, the ferals and abominations are from a story I never really got around to finishing, and have since lost.

KJOokami · Post by **KJOokami** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:49 pm

The Grey Wolverine wrote:Just my personal preference, with my current stories I just use hybrids though, the ferals and abominations are from a story I never really got around to finishing, and have since lost.

That works pretty well for particular story worlds, but not so much as general terminology. Because in some people's RP universes, anthros/salient/hybrids/what-have-you aren't just humans that've been tampered with, scientifically. For a lot of people, they're just as normal as a human is in our universe.

An interesting take on it, nonetheless.

The Grey Wolverine · Post by **The Grey Wolverine** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:59 pm

I'm just giving possible terms for the more sciency furrs.

Post by **Sleet** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:15 pm

Salient and statant are very neutral, though. I like that.

Alastair · Post by **Alastair** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:34 am

Your story sounds really cool, Grey. Seems like you put a lot of thought into it.

Do you consider yourself a furry?