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Sleet wrote:What if it's in a vaccuum though?

Does it count to be full of empty space?

wouldn't water expnad? or less denser..

The water would instantley boil I believe.

The real question is why didn't you pick the glass up off the floor before you vacuumed?

well the real real question is if Onyx is ever going to drop another album, but we all know that, it's just inferred.

Psykeout wrote:nah man. I don't believe that putting a glass of water in a vacuum is advisable. You shouldn't spill water on your electronics.

What if it's a waterproof vacuum?

Do not be optimistic, be objective.

Wanderer wrote:Do not be optimistic, be objective.

I prefer being optimistic.

Ditto.

JeffCvt wrote:The water would instantley boil I believe.

Not necessarily. There's also gravity providing pressure on it. I think there will be more vapor pressure but not enough that all would boil.

Sleet wrote:What if it's in a vaccuum though?

Then it's full of quantum foam.

Seems like havin' a nice weather In aputure science lab.
I hope you don't get big red sunburn mark.

Treatment: rub inside of watermelon on your burnt skin. Jkjk

White vineger is good for a sunburn sonic. it takes all of the sting out of it. It has to be white Vineger though, red vinger will make things worse.

Also hi everyone.

The smell will fade quickly. it disapears once the vineger evaporates. well it does for me anyhow, and it is a lot easier to put up with than the sting of the sunburn.

hi Ves, good to see you again. I still owe you a drawing.

and I have no sunburn remedies. Maybe go out and buy some Solarcaine.

I think drug stores are close guess you have to use vinigar
and hello Vespier Leo

Dubiousity wrote:

Wanderer wrote:Do not be optimistic, be objective.

I prefer being optimistic.

Sleet wrote:Ditto.

Optimism is just as bad as being pessimistic. There's no reason that society should worship the idea of highlighting the positive features of a situation or idea. It's actually a pretty bad fixation to have.

Psykeout wrote:

Dubiousity wrote:

Wanderer wrote:Do not be optimistic, be objective.

I prefer being optimistic.

Sleet wrote:Ditto.

Optimism is just as bad as being pessimistic. There's no reason that society should worship the idea of highlighting the positive features of a situation or idea. It's actually a pretty bad fixation to have.

So you're saying everyone should have a boring neutral outlook on life? No thanks.

no, just realist. point out the good and the bad in a situation. If the bad outweighs the good it's a bad situation, and if the good is more prevalent, it's a good situation.

I actually saw a pretty compelling argument for pessimism once. It boiled down to "if things go badly, you saw it coming, and if things go well you're pleasantly surprised." Really, when you put it like that, pessimism doesn't sound all that bad. I'd tend toward realism, though. Not "the glass is half full" or "the glass is half empty," so much as "yep, that's a glass alright."

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:no, just realist. point out the good and the bad in a situation. If the bad outweighs the good it's a bad situation, and if the good is more prevalent, it's a good situation.

It was a joke.

Just because I take a more positive outlook doesn't mean I'm not smart enough to tell the difference between a good situation and a bad one. If someone lunges at me with scissors I'm not gonna smile and think the person is going to give me a cool haircut :I

Coatl_Ruu wrote:I actually saw a pretty compelling argument for pessimism once. It boiled down to "if things go badly, you saw it coming, and if things go well you're pleasantly surprised." Really, when you put it like that, pessimism doesn't sound all that bad. I'd tend toward realism, though. Not "the glass is half full" or "the glass is half empty," so much as "yep, that's a glass alright."

Or we could go with the classic "hope for the best, expect the worst"
it's basically the same logic behind it.

you guys are just so skeptical. how could we live with out philosophers?

Dubiousity wrote:Just because I take a more positive outlook doesn't mean I'm not smart enough to tell the difference between a good situation and a bad one. If someone lunges at me with scissors I'm not gonna smile and think the person is going to give me a cool haircut :I[/color]

But there's no reason to distort reality at all, really. I think people should strive for objectivity/realism. Making an effort to see things in any sort of positive light is unproductive.

Psykeout wrote:Making an effort to see things in any sort of positive light is unproductive.

I'm sure that I'm going to be worng at somepoint.
I know you are not meaning optimistic is a wrong ethic, but I think it is sometimes ok to put some effort for positive thinking while givingup a productivity.
life isn't about being productive all the time, isn't it? isn't top of the society one making us to think in productive way to help them selves?
I'm in worng track, ain't I?

texascat018 wrote:

Psykeout wrote:Making an effort to see things in any sort of positive light is unproductive.

I know you are not meaning optimistic is a wrong ethic

No that's exactly what I'm saying.

People like to make themselves happy by imagining that everything is ok. That's an easy way out. People need to either learn how to deal with negative emotions in a healthy way or learn how to be happy in a realistic situation.
Actually people need to learn BOTH but that's apparently a lot to ask of people. :P

And yes, a little positive thinking (but that can go wrong if you use too much, too) can get you somewhere. But being a positive thinker is NOT being an optomist. There's a lot of overlap and they're very similar, but they're not the same.

Psykeout wrote: No that's exactly what I'm saying.

People like to make themselves happy by imagining that everything is ok. That's an easy way out. People need to either learn how to deal with negative emotions in a healthy way or learn how to be happy in a realistic situation.
Actually people need to learn BOTH but that's apparently a lot to ask of people.

And yes, a little positive thinking (but that can go wrong if you use too much, too) can get you somewhere. But being a positive thinker is NOT being an optomist. There's a lot of overlap and they're very similar, but they're not the same.

Got it, this conv reminds me about 'Schisandra chinensis tea' it is a tea that has five differnet flavor in one cup of tea (sweet,bitter,sour,salty,spicy) which is really mysteriously mysetrtious. also kinda shows life in nutshell or in teacup. or not.

I've long been a supporter of the realism over optimism outlook.

I don't need to tell myself the glass is "half-full" rather than "half-empty". If I ever feel upset or overwhelmed with life, I've got friends that I can vent to. That and ponies. Ponies have kinda become my anti-depressant of late (maybe that's a bad way to put it since I haven't really been depressed; but watching MLP does kinda put me in an uncharacteristically good mood).

We should work to solve our problems instead of telling ourselves that everything is OK.
Optimism is not what will make you successful. Being hopeful about the future, raising your expectations will not ensure that the outcome will be positive.
Whatever situation we may be in should be looked at objectively, there needn't be any distortion of reality. Facts should not be skewed to fit an argument or a viewpoint. Optimism is a means to keep the oppressed motivated; they accept their sorrow by denying reality. Optimism will only make you unhappy in the end.
In the words of German philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche:
"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils, because it prolongs the torments of man."

Accepting everything as good will leave you miserable. If the outcome is negative, we should work to improve. We should make our lives better by setting positive, realistic goals and work to achieve them. Our character is reflected by how we react to our failures.

Dissension wrote:Psychological research indicates optimists are more likely to employ successful coping strategies, overcome emotional distress, and deal with obstacles to meet goals. There is also apparently evidence that optimism has an impact on physical health.

well of COURSE it has positive merits. but on the other hand, it's illusionating, encourages people to overlook the negative side of things, and can cause people to be out of touch with their emotional state.

ugh wow that is worded terribly can I go die now.

Here's a video

Dubiousity wrote:"Don't ever be optimistic or hopeful kids"

I didn't say don't be hopeful.
That's really rude to assume I think you should all just lose hope and die.
:B

Most of my issues come from most people not even using the word "optimism" correctly, to the point that I can't be happy without being called an optimist.

Psykeout wrote:

Dubiousity wrote:"Don't ever be optimistic or hopeful kids"

I didn't say don't be hopeful.
That's really rude to assume I think you should all just lose hope and die.
:B

Most of my issues come from most people not even using the word "optimism" correctly, to the point that I can't be happy without being called an optimist.

It's also rude to berate someone on their lifestyle choice.