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redmarker97 · Post by **redmarker97** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:13 am

Tha Housefox wrote:That was a pretty good movie. But of course, they set it up for a second, which will probably not be as great.

I dunno, but I think it will be at least on par with the first.

Vespier Leo wrote:That does seem to be the trend lately. It makes you wonder if they know what they are doing.

'Selling themselves out.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:16 am

redmarker97 wrote:'Selling themselves out.

That is the problem with so many things today. Things that get a good reputation then seel out there good brand for profit.

Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:19 am

Vespier Leo wrote:
redmarker97 wrote:'Selling themselves out.
That is the problem with so many things today. Things that get a good reputation then seel out there good brand for profit.

Capitalism. making talented people do anything for money.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:21 am

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:
Vespier Leo wrote:
redmarker97 wrote:'Selling themselves out.
That is the problem with so many things today. Things that get a good reputation then seel out there good brand for profit.
Capitalism. making talented people do anything for money.

That is more true now than ever. People don't seem to take as much pride in things as they used to.

Post by **Dissension** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:22 am

Drop the politics, please.

Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:24 am

it was not intended as a political statement. it was a statement on the entertainment industry. I apologize for confusion.

Post by **Sleet** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:24 am

What are you talking about? It's always been this way. We just romanticize the past and assume everyone who ever made good art did it for no money.

Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:25 am

which is a fairly good assumption in some cases.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:25 am

True they did do it for money, but They did GOOD work for it. thye didn't just create sub par things and then sell them on a name.

Post by **Sleet** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:27 am

Vespier Leo wrote:True they did do it for money, but They did GOOD work for it. thye didn't just create sub par things and then sell them on a name.

Yes they did. We just don't remember those works because they sucked. In the future people will talk about Pixar's work on the Toy Story trilogy, not their work on Cars 2. That will be forgotten.

redmarker97 · Post by **redmarker97** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:30 am

Vespier Leo wrote:Create sub par things and then sell them on a name.

First thought: Call of Duty

Thats honestly the best example of that statement.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:33 am

Sleet wrote:
Vespier Leo wrote:True they did do it for money, but They did GOOD work for it. thye didn't just create sub par things and then sell them on a name.
Yes they did. We just don't remember those works because they sucked. In the future people will talk about Pixar's work on the Toy Story trilogy, not their work on Cars 2. That will be forgotten.

That is a possibility though some mistakes and sub par Creations that have been made throughout history are preserved in the records... There aren't many though and most people were not paied for them.

Liam · Post by **Liam** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:05 pm

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:Capitalism. making talented people do anything for money.

Substitute "avarice shorting out some vital decision-making circuits in the brains of the powers-that-be" with "capitalism" and I think you're hitting closer to the mark.

Capitalism isn't innately bad, but can be corrupted like any other system. I know, Diss, already dropping.

The real problem is that some suits seem prone to forgetting that the best way of profit maximization is to make a better product than the competition that will sell equally more. Once the Megabucks fever sets in and renders some synaptic pathways inert, though, they attempt profit maximization through cutting corners in the production process (hiring some hacks who can barely parse English sentences, but are cheap) as well as pandering to the lowest common denominator to access a broader market and thus be able to sell more tickets, in theory (3D conversion of films not shot in 3D, because even though the techs say it will look shoddy or like a nuclear assault on the senses, everybody's doing it so it must be good, no?). For more information, see Last Airbender.

I would say it's more an imbalance of the equilibrium between doing good work and realizing profit from it in certain individuals who pull the strings than anything else. If the balance is disturbed, the creation of junk has become a whole lot likelier.

As for Pixar, Brave looks fresh, so I come to think of the Cars duology as an outlier. Phew.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:54 pm

That was VERY well stated Liam. I agree with you as well.

Post by **Sleet** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:58 pm

Movies are usually made for one of two reasons. To make money, or to be acclaimed. Some movies care about one or the other, and some care about both. And then some of those succeed at whatever goal they set out for.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:01 pm

Thare are quite a few that fail at both though. They are usually the ones you never hear of though.

Post by **Sleet** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:07 pm

Vespier Leo wrote:Thare are quite a few that fail at both though. They are usually the ones you never hear of though.

Of course. But the point is not every movie is made to be good. Some are just made to make money, and getting people to think it's good despite being really stupid is one such way to do that.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:10 pm

Sleet wrote:
Vespier Leo wrote:Thare are quite a few that fail at both though. They are usually the ones you never hear of though.
Of course. But the point is not every movie is made to be good. Some are just made to make money, and getting people to think it's good despite being really stupid is one such way to do that.

I agree, but there are some lately that Are so bad that even with the force of good advertizing and A well established name they are falling flat.

Blue Braixen · Post by **Blue Braixen** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:49 pm

Some of it has to do with budget, as well. Economics will forever be one of the problems in the way of everything.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:53 pm

Ah yes. Great vision and grand asperations cuppled with lack of capital often leads to fantastic failure.

KalloonWhite · Post by **KalloonWhite** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:12 pm

Can anybody think of a good idea for a good transformation trinket?

And don't say a taser, cause I'm already using that.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:17 pm

OH! Well there are several good ones.

There is the ring, the pendant, the Mask (I uses that a lot.) the mirror and some others if you need them.

Coatl_Ruu · Post by **Coatl_Ruu** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:26 pm

Maybe a watch?

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:28 pm

That could work Cotal... Wrist watch or pocket watch?

KalloonWhite · Post by **KalloonWhite** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:30 pm

Coatl_Ruu wrote:Maybe a watch?

That thinking is to small and easily predictable! (no offense)

I need something outside the box, like a taser!

Coatl_Ruu · Post by **Coatl_Ruu** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:34 pm

Vespier Leo wrote:That could work Cotal... Wrist watch or pocket watch?

I'd be inclined to say pocket watch, but people might say he's ripping off Doctor Who. =P

KalloonWhite wrote:
Coatl_Ruu wrote:Maybe a watch?
That's think is to small and easily predictable! (no offense)

I need something outside the box, like a taser!

None taken, none taken... Hmm...

No, wait. The magical cigarette lighter of transformation and such. Or maybe a die that transforms you into something at random.

Wait, why a taser?

sonic id furreh!!! · Post by **sonic id furreh!!!** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:34 pm

KalloonWhite wrote:
Coatl_Ruu wrote:Maybe a watch?
That thinking is to small and easily predictable! (no offense)

I need something outside the box, like a taser!

a TV remote!

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:35 pm

What about a Mobiel? It is a ring on an central stand that spins on a bearing. the ring has a series of images on it that are transparent. as light shines from the center it cauese the images to blur togeather creating a three dimensioneal moving image on the surface of the wheel, like a short loop cartoon. It is deffinantly not something you see much anymore.

KalloonWhite · Post by **KalloonWhite** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:39 pm

Coatl_Ruu wrote:Wait, why a taser?

okay, the taser is normally a weapon. But this taser is specially designed so that with a proper voice confirmation, one can draw an electrical circle in the air, and then when you touch the circle, you transform!

CaptainPea · Post by **CaptainPea** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:40 pm

KalloonWhite wrote:Can anybody think of a good idea for a good transformation trinket?

And don't say a taser, cause I'm already using that.

I can think of one or two things

A flashlight
A baseball glove
A little whistle shaped like a turtle
A pencil sharpener
A lucky sock
A reasonably sized can of air freshener
A Cal Ripken Jr. bobblehead from a Wheaties box
Wheaties
Cal Ripken Jr.
A key
A drivers license
An old dog
A fake beard
A spider ring
A barrel of monkeys
A pair of safety scissors
A receipt from the dollar store
One of those unwieldy triangle highlighters with three colors on it
A Canadian nickel
A Canadian five dollar bill
A Canadian
A vintage Coca Cola bottle cap
A vintage Pepsi bottle cap
Cal Ripken Sr.
Dissension
A silly band
A lobster
An uncooked potato
An old corn dog
An old corn

KalloonWhite wrote:I need something outside the box, like a taser!

Oh, well then you should be set

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:46 pm

Well, that is Quite the list pea. I am trying to think of some more things myself.... A zippo lighter mayhaps?

sonic id furreh!!! · Post by **sonic id furreh!!!** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:50 pm

Vespier Leo wrote:Well, that is Quite the list pea. I am trying to think of some more things myself.... A zippo lighter mayhaps?

ai got 5 zippos :3

CaptainPea · Post by **CaptainPea** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:50 pm

sonic id furreh!!! wrote:
Vespier Leo wrote:Well, that is Quite the list pea. I am trying to think of some more things myself.... A zippo lighter mayhaps?
I got 5 zippos :3

Are you a superhero yet?

Coatl_Ruu · Post by **Coatl_Ruu** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:51 pm

A receipt from the dollar store

"Jenna never knew that when she handed John Fitzgerald his receipt for milk, shaving cream, and a pack of gummy bears on that fateful night, she created the world's most powerful hero."

A baseball glove

"It's a pop fly to right field, Fitzgerald moves in to - I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT! FITZGERALD HAS TURNED INTO A MARMOT! THE CROWD GOES WILD!"

A Canadian

"This just in, the entire country of Canada seems to have turned into a rather large Alaskan Halibut. More at 11."

I should stop now. XD

KalloonWhite · Post by **KalloonWhite** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:55 pm

By Dissension's tail, I've got it!

Rocks!

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:56 pm

sonic id furreh!!! wrote:
Vespier Leo wrote:Well, that is Quite the list pea. I am trying to think of some more things myself.... A zippo lighter mayhaps?
ai got 5 zippos :3

Do you collect them sonic?

Post by **Dissension** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:57 pm

As an interesting side note, The Captain just happens to have all those things lying around his house.

...

Except me.

...

Maybe.

KalloonWhite wrote:By Dissension's tail...

I really hope this gets picked up as a memetic catch phrase of some kind.

Vespier Leo · Post by **Vespier Leo** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:59 pm

It would make a good one Diss. I am going to put it down to be used.

KalloonWhite · Post by **KalloonWhite** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:01 pm

I'm not lying about the rocks, either.

CaptainPea · Post by **CaptainPea** » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:01 pm

Dissension wrote:As an interesting side note, The Captain just happens to have all those things lying around his house.

...

Except me.

...

Maybe.

No, I got on the moderator poll so I let Dissension go.
It actually did start as me looking around my room for trinkets. Then I thought "Hey, Cal Ripken Jr. is convenient to carry around in case you need to transform."

You'd turn into an oriole and gain the superpower of superhuman showing-up-to-work-a-lot

KalloonWhite wrote:I'm not lying about the rocks, either.

Or seashells, they're sorta like fancy lookin' rocks