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...Is it bad that I don't know what EV or IV means...? :?

There was a magazine yonks ago called GBA World, it was the most awesome magazine I ever read. I remember there was an article in it on the Nintendo DS when it was soon to come out. Soon after that, they basically wrote a goodbye letter in the intro of the magazine and that was the last issue ever printed, I assume it just became obsolete since the GBA wasn't current anymore. I might get into the new Nintendo Force magazine since the game magazine I currently get on occasion is filled with Xbox and PS3 games I don't really care about. :P I can usually be sure I'll at least be a little interested in a new game if Nintendo released it.
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IV stands for "individual value." Basically, every single Pokémon has an IV for each of its stats. A Pokémon with the best possible IV for a stat will have 31 more points in it at level 100 than a Pokémon with the worst possible one. These are randomized the minute you encounter the Pokémon and cannot be changed.

EV stands for "effort value." Every Pokémon has a certain number of EVs (1 to 3) that are distributed across different stats when you beat them in battles. This means if your Pokémon fights a ton of defensive Pokémon, it will accumulate a lot of defense EVs. By level 100, every 4 EVs equal 1 stat point. A Pokémon will continue to earn EVs from every battle until they reached 510 EVs. And note that a Pokémon cannot receive more than 255 EVs in a single stat. Or 252, effectively, since going all the way to 255 means 3 EVs can never go into actually gaining your Pokémon stats.

Both of these are virtually invisible, which is why so many people aren't aware of them. They really don't come into play unless you battle at a very high level. For people who just play the games and don't get caught up in competitive stuff, all that matters is the IV and EV system help make individuals of the same species more unique.
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Oh okay that makes perfect sense... :shock:
What? No, my eyes are permanently stuck open like that...

Seriously though, that would be a lot of fun to work on if I didn't have several games in my possession that I still had yet to start (darn you Steam sales!). I could never get super-duper into RPGs, I usually just play along and attach items and stuff that give me a bigger number. Makes me think I'd be horrible at D&D. Was Pokemon always this complicated though?
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Well everyone AGDQ is over for another year! If you watched I hoped you had a blast the Marathon has earned $418,486.34 for the Prevent Cancer Foundation, which is just amazing. If you missed any games videos will be up on Speed Demos Archives later on in the week. Well now its time for the bonus stream and then its wait till the next Marathon.

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Pokemon has always had some pretty complicated algorithms behind it, yes. But, as Sleet said, they've also never really come into play unless you play the games on a competitive level.

I did try EV training once before; in White. I trained a Sneasel (Adamant nature for +Atk and -SpAtk) with max Atk and Speed EVs, a Tangrowth (Relaxed nature for +Def and -Speed) with max Def and SpAtk EVs and the remaining 6 in HP, and I started on a Milotic (Calm nature for +SpDef and -Atk), maxing out HP and getting to about 100 SpDef EVs.

I was doing it all manually, of course, so I got burnt out and stopped at that point.

Never again. If I ever do end up doing competitive stuff (highly unlikely), I'll just use a GameShark or something. :P
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It is satisfying to have a well-bred Pokémon finally finished, but I just don't feel it's worth it for me.
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I just watched a high level pokemon tournament at Day one of Apex 2013. And DANG, competitive Pokemon is long. It's almost as long as 3 out of 5 in KoF.
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I totally do not have the attention span nor time to raise a well-bred, well-trained Pokemon. It's mostly the attention span that I'm lacking.
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Hey guys

Can I tell you something about Capcom

They keep trying to act like they care. And they keep failing. Miserably.

It's quite sad, really, that this is the fate of the Mega Man franchise. Well, that and...this.

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Capcom has gained something of a reputation for this kind of stuff now. They are completely out of touch with their fan base. Which is quite sad, because many of my favorite games were published/developed by that very same company.
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If I'm not mistaken, the so-called magaman vs street fighter game wasn't even made by capcom. It was a fan-made game and capcom is merely publishing it with the authorization of the creators. I honestly tought capcm was awsome when I was a kid, but now I hate this company.

For instance, I don't buy DLCs. Never bought and never will, because that's pretty much a company selling half game at full price and then selling the other half of the game in individiual pieces, which pretty much sums in paying twice just to have a full game.
I remember when games were made full of secrets, care and when they wanted to add something to a game, they would just make an expansion pack (which most of the times was apretty much a whole new game and not just "new gun" or a "new cloth").

Yeah, I know that their sorry excuse for DLC is "piracy", which I call ** on. If they make a good game then people WILL buy it. For example, the DS was cracked and yet, pokemon blac &white were hot sellers. People buy what they like. It's not piracy that is ruinin games and company. Their problems are horrible half-made games at twice their value.
Esquire Fox wrote:Capcom has gained something of a reputation for this kind of stuff now. They are completely out of touch with their fan base. Which is quite sad, because many of my favorite games were published/developed by that very same company.
Funny fact about their connection with their fan base. I remember when Megaman legends 3 was being first announced, Capcom asked their fans for support creating characters and other things.
There was a massive fan response seding designs of characters and many stuff capcom requested, then Capcom said "oops. Sorry. There wasn't any fan interest in this game. We wanted you to make the game FOR us and not just give suggestions."
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What about when the DLC is straight up made later.
I agree dis-locked content is annoying. But when the DLC is made after the fact I find it quite acceptable. I still got a finished game that is entirely complete.

On capcom in particular. I still like Capcom a lot. Their business practices are definitely pretty crappy. But I still love the games that come out of the company, which frankly is good enough for me.
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I think DLC is only acceptable if it's stuff they made after the game released and the main game wasn't specifically made with the possibility in mind for that content to be DLC.
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Sleet wrote:I think DLC is only acceptable if it's stuff they made after the game released and the main game wasn't specifically made with the possibility in mind for that content to be DLC.
My argument about call of duty DLC right here.

(Except that it IS made after the game is released.)
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I can't stand Capcom now, they went from one of my favorite developers to one of my most hated in the span of a couple years.
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Tha Housefox wrote:
Sleet wrote:I think DLC is only acceptable if it's stuff they made after the game released and the main game wasn't specifically made with the possibility in mind for that content to be DLC.
My argument about call of duty DLC right here.

(Except that it IS made after the game is released.)
More maps and stuff are just fine. That's exactly the kind of thing DLC should exist for. To keep them from having to release an all-new game in order to add content (not like they aren't gonna do it anyway...) Though I mourn the concept of "unlockables" that used to be really exciting in games. Nowadays something cool isn't earned by doing something difficult, but by getting out your credit card.

Another pet peeve is in-game preorder bonuses. For example, in the Xbox 360 version of Left 4 Dead 2, the baseball bat wasn't available unless you preordered from GameStop. I think physical preorder bonuses are great and also help compensate for the fact that game packaging and manuals and the likes have become extremely sparse. But don't require me to preorder to get the full game, please.
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I agree with you on that note Sleet, unless I REALLY like the video game i'm gonna buy I don't splurge on the dlc or pre-ordering.
Although to be fair I really like (most) vidya games!
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I often will pre-order games I know I'm gonna buy anyway, because it doesn't cost any more money. But still, I hate the idea that I don't get the full game unless I do.
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I pre-order games I know I am going to buy because it helps the people at my local GameStop. They are required by the corporation to meet a certain quota for pre-orders, among other things. I've managed to build a very positive relationship with the store. If there is a rare game I'm looking to find, they'll call another store in the country and have it shipped. I get picks on anything they are going to throw away; they chuck a lot of stuff (strategy guides, boxes, displays, posters, etc). I've even been invited to attend a convention with the manager, but I don't think I can afford to go.

So if you're going to buy the game anyways, you might as well help them out.
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I don't often pre-order games because I can rarely afford it when they come out, but if they have a really cool pre-order bonus I usually find a way to scrounge up the cash. On the subject of DLC, I think it's a good idea that's abused by the game companies to sell a whole game in bits. With a lot of DS games, you can download extra missions and puzzles off the internet for free after you finish the main game, they're actual extra bits that the game doesn't need or expect before you finish it. If they put a price on them, like $10, I'd be happy to pay because it allows me to continue playing games I love.

There's a game my friends started playing recently that you can download for free but it takes forever to level up any of your weapons or skills and there are a million weapons and skills to level up, OR you can just pay to do it. The problem is, leveling up without paying is made harder by the people who have payed and make it impossible to get any experience points because you keep dying. That's the kind of system I hate, a game which you have to pay more to enjoy at all.
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I bought a Gameboy Color today at a flea market.

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Yes you are. I loved that thing. I have such good memories!
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Speaking of GameBoy Color, anyone here have Super GameBoy? The SNES GameBoy cartridge? I still do. Played Pokemon Silver and Gold on it non-stop :D
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Heck yeah! I still have my old pokemon red, blue and yellow games in a place of honor! (inside a ziplock baggy on my shelf) I just couldn't through away something I spent so much time with when I was younger.
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I still have my game boy color. But it's malfuctioning and there's no game store near me that will fix it. They say it's an old console and they don't work with them anymore.
I had three cartridges for it: tetris, pokemon crystal and one of the famous 30 something games in one cartridge. I still have the last two cartridges. I think I lost my tetris cartridge.
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I still have my very first handheld system, a purple Game Boy Advance.
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Did anyone else play Jade cocoon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfqbDSfw9_Y
It's pretty much a pokemonish game where you can fuse the monsters you capture giving them body parts and powers that the originals had.
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I did. Never beat it though. Loved the battle music and played it quite a bit. I might find it and play it again someday.
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Hy first handeld was a purple gameboy color, sadly I don't have it anymore. On a related note, I found my copy of Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories today, I love this game.
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Ni No Kuni comes out tomorrow. I can't wait to play it!
Hopefully we will see more Studio Ghibli collaborated games in the future.

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Hear about that game at work. I might take a look into it.

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Wow I totally forgot about that game, yeah that would be pretty neat to do!
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@Grey- I got my GBA for Christmas nine years ago. As a young kid, I made the mistake of leaving it in my dad's truck on a cold, snowy, Massachusetts evening. Being from Halifax yourself (by the way, I used to live in that town), you know what I mean when I say that was a mistake. The dampness in the air caused mild water damage to the screen. I can still see everything perfectly, but the water damage takes the appearance of deep, deep scratches on the screen.
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My brother did that too, however his has long since been gone.

Also, when did you live in Halifax Beagle?
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My GBA toughed it out like a war veteran. I couldn't bring myself to trade it in at GameStop when they were still taking the system.

I lived in Halifax when I was very young- so young I don't even remember it. We moved to Halifax when we left Florida, so I was two and lived there for two years or so. We moved to Worcester for about three years and then moved to Webster for a year. (That's the simplified version of the story.)

But back to video games; I finally own a GameCube! Now if I could just get my act together and make an effort to buy some games from the local game stores. Suggestions anyone?
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Super Smash Bros. Melee, Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Kart: Double Dash, and if you've got people to play with (like actually come over your house), Mario Party 4 and/or 5 are pretty awesome too.
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Sunshine, Melee and Double Dash!! are musts. Luigi's Mansion is a classic but it's rather short. Pikmin is also a good one. I, personally, loved Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, but that's not nearly as much of a "must" as Melee and Sunshine.
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Oooooo. Yes. Pikmin too.
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