Another bit of fanart

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:04 pm

Hey, lookie what I found.

http://darksideofthesun13.deviantart.co ... -116680466

Ebly · Post by **Ebly** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:19 pm

Now we wait for Buck to come in saying "(random letters) I ALREADY FOUND THIS (long time) AGO! DO NONE OF YOU CHECK THE INFO TOPIC?"

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:44 pm

Ebly wrote:Now we wait for Buck to come in saying "(random letters) I ALREADY FOUND THIS (long time) AGO! DO NONE OF YOU CHECK THE INFO TOPIC?"

That is the best part of the day.

Sketcherofstuff · Post by **Sketcherofstuff** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:51 pm

Dylan wrote:Hey, lookie what I found.

http://darksideofthesun13.deviantart.co ... -116680466

those are good

i wish that my stuff looked better on paper- it always gets sloppy cause i use crappy archaic colored pencils

Foldo · Post by **Foldo** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:13 am

http://necrath.deviantart.com/art/House ... -141618015

And the shaded version :
http://necrath.deviantart.com/art/house ... -141618124

The colorer recognizes.

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:23 pm

Talking about Sabrina in the IRC...this sums it.

By jondflores at 2009-12-27

Teh Brawler · Post by **Teh Brawler** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:45 pm

Dylan wrote:Talking about Sabrina in the IRC...this sums it.

By jondflores at 2009-12-27

Now, why do y'all have to go having the good conversations when I'm not in the IRC?

2MKc · Post by **2MKc** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:59 pm

Hi, I like to draw dog breeds in a Housepets style.

(It's okay to request me to do more)

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:21 pm

That looks really nice, just a bit of coloring and I bet it looks great!

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:45 pm

Yes, your drawing skills are good, however, the dimensions are wrong. The head is too big, the legs too short. You should take care of the dimensions. If you do, your pictures will be great

.

Foldo · Post by **Foldo** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:58 pm

... And perhaps you should choose a file format more convenient than the .gif ... (example: .png)

2MKc · Post by **2MKc** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:27 pm

Alex wrote:Yes, your drawing skills are good, however, the dimensions are wrong. The head is too big, the legs too short. You should take care of the dimensions. If you do, your pictures will be great .

Dude, it's a Chihuahua! don't you get it?

The Game · Post by **The Game** » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:37 pm

2MKc wrote:
Dude, it's a Chihuahua! don't you get it?

lol

Kyderra · Post by **Kyderra** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:40 pm

I for one, welcome out new Chihuahua overlord

Anthroguy101 · Post by **Anthroguy101** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:52 pm

Teh Brawler wrote:
Dylan wrote:Talking about Sabrina in the IRC...this sums it.

By jondflores at 2009-12-27
Now, why do y'all have to go having the good conversations when I'm not in the IRC?

Epic win.

WolvenPaw15 · Post by **WolvenPaw15** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:40 pm

I had a couple but I reipped them to shreds because of my horrible drawing skills I love to draw really just ...can't *Sighs* Why does my best friend have to rub her artsy skills in my face not intentionally grrrr

The Game · Post by **The Game** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:29 am

I wish I could draw like this!!
And like wolvenpaw, my best friend is an EPIC artist but i suck
all my HP sketches have the right head and ears and tags. But any facial features make them unrecognizable and the eyes never look the same. i dont get how the noses get where they are either...mega annoying.

NickCole · Post by **NickCole** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:39 am

Here is a little doodle I did. I was bored and it was my first attempt to draw them. xD

Sorry if it's...too big. D:

Teh Brawler · Post by **Teh Brawler** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:44 am

*eye twitches*
I hate it how we artists can't stand our own work. On the plain of artistic talent, I am halfway between amazing and terrible, and I will spend hours going over flaws. That ^ up there, that's amazing. And for you to say it sucks proves to me that you're an artist.

NickCole · Post by **NickCole** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:48 am

Teh Brawler wrote:*eye twitches*
I hate it how we artists can't stand our own work. On the plain of artistic talent, I am halfway between amazing and terrible, and I will spend hours going over flaws. That ^ up there, that's amazing. And for you to sucks proves to me that you're an artist.

I think it's 'cause it looked WAAY better, in their mind, than the outcome. Plus I used pen so...it's harder for me to correct the mistakes. D:

Teh Brawler · Post by **Teh Brawler** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:51 am

NickCole wrote:I think it's 'cause it looked WAAY better, in their mind, than the outcome. Plus I used pen so...it's harder for me to correct the mistakes. D:

*Beats head into wall*
NickCole, let me put this as bluntly as I can: I LOVE YOUR TALENT. I WANT YOUR TALENT. I WISH YOUR TALENT CAME IN THE FORM OF AN ONLINE CREDIT CARD NUMBER SO I COULD STEAL YOUR TALENT. DO NOT SELL YOURSELF SHORT; YOU ARE REALLY GOOD.

NickCole · Post by **NickCole** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:59 am

Teh Brawler wrote:
NickCole wrote:I think it's 'cause it looked WAAY better, in their mind, than the outcome. Plus I used pen so...it's harder for me to correct the mistakes. D:
*Beats head into wall*
NickCole, let me put this as bluntly as I can: I LOVE YOUR TALENT. I WANT YOUR TALENT. I WISH YOUR TALENT CAME IN THE FORM OF AN ONLINE CREDIT CARD NUMBER SO I COULD STEAL YOUR TALENT. DO NOT SELL YOURSELF SHORT; YOU ARE REALLY GOOD.

IT AIN'T FOR SAL---HEY NO STEALING. D: Plus drawing ain't my passion anymore, it's more of a hobby now. C: I'm more into Programming, though I don't know how but I'm willing to learn.

(And I can actually draw that out, if I knew what you look it.)

Teh Brawler · Post by **Teh Brawler** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:06 am

NickCole wrote:
Teh Brawler wrote:
NickCole wrote:I think it's 'cause it looked WAAY better, in their mind, than the outcome. Plus I used pen so...it's harder for me to correct the mistakes. D:
*Beats head into wall*
NickCole, let me put this as bluntly as I can: I LOVE YOUR TALENT. I WANT YOUR TALENT. I WISH YOUR TALENT CAME IN THE FORM OF AN ONLINE CREDIT CARD NUMBER SO I COULD STEAL YOUR TALENT. DO NOT SELL YOURSELF SHORT; YOU ARE REALLY GOOD.
IT AIN'T FOR SAL---HEY NO STEALING. D: Plus drawing ain't my passion anymore, it's more of a hobby now. C: I'm more into Programming, though I don't know how but I'm willing to learn.

(And I can actually draw that out, if I knew what you look it.)

Programming really isn't that hard to learn, all you need is patience and a good handle on critical thinking. I can't point you in any directions when it comes to learning, but Tails++, Codewolf, Ebly, and others can. I'm learning Java at school this year, and it's really not that bad, it's actually pretty fun.

Foxstar · Post by **Foxstar** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:47 am

Teh Brawler wrote:*eye twitches*
I hate it how we artists can't stand our own work. On the plain of artistic talent, I am halfway between amazing and terrible, and I will spend hours going over flaws. That ^ up there, that's amazing. And for you to say it sucks proves to me that you're an artist.

The best artists can point out 2 dozen flaws within their best pictures within a moment. And they also tend to be highly critical of their work. It's those two traits that help drive them to grow and improve. You need to be wary of any artist who not only never sees any flaws within their work but think it's just freaking fantastic. (Furry is a fandom full of those artists, look at FA) because not only are they more often then not turning out subpar pictures (And should be avoided for commissions) but they and their yes men fans will rip you a new one if you ever point out a flaw within their work. (All IMHO)

Ebly · Post by **Ebly** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:34 am

Foxstar wrote:
Teh Brawler wrote:*eye twitches*
I hate it how we artists can't stand our own work. On the plain of artistic talent, I am halfway between amazing and terrible, and I will spend hours going over flaws. That ^ up there, that's amazing. And for you to say it sucks proves to me that you're an artist.
The best artists can point out 2 dozen flaws within their best pictures within a moment. And they also tend to be highly critical of their work. It's those two traits that help drive them to grow and improve. You need to be wary of any artist who not only never sees any flaws within their work but think it's just freaking fantastic. (Furry is a fandom full of those artists, look at FA) because not only are they more often then not turning out subpar pictures (And should be avoided for commissions) but they and their yes men fans will rip you a new one if you ever point out a flaw within their work. (All IMHO)

Thumbs up smilie!
I tend not to be so blunt but basically I agree with this.
The only thing I have to add is that sometimes the people who aren't full of themselves can get a bit too down on their own work. It's a difficult equilibrium to maintain!

...Of course this is also just opinion.

I'd also like to say to not overwork. I know too many people who spend hours and hours on a really simple picture and it comes out looking really weird because they spent hours and hours fixing the most minor things on it!
But mostly this is from observation rather than experience so maybe people shouldn't listen to my advice.

WolvenPaw15 · Post by **WolvenPaw15** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:55 am

Ok fine I'll do my best drawing post and see what happens give me a good while because I'm probably going to go through a bunch of sheets of paper and compare and contrast them so it may take a while -_-

Hipstar · Post by **Hipstar** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:12 am

i wish i could add something to this conversation, i really could.

but i can't draw, so im one of those people who can look at something someone drew and not catch a single flaw (some of the comments from the Housepets re-coloring thread made me feel stupid for not catching some of those things).

however, since i can write well (when i feel like it), i always tend to catch those flaws very easily, and i include pacing and plot structure as well as grammatical and spelling errors. good thing rick is a great writer though cause there is very little i can criticize the comic about in terms of writing.

Two_Twig · Post by **Two_Twig** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:04 pm

Let me just say this now, because I actually feel for this topic of discussion, being an artist pretty much requires you not to become attached to any of your work. The first months I spent studying art with my professor he had us rip up our art work and do it over countless times. In order for an artist to actually succeed in their profession they need to be able to work fast, and not dwell too much on the little details. Its important to note your mistakes and improve of course, but remember, when your working on a commission from someone you can't waste time either; and the commissioner is always right. No excuses. The skill of an artist only goes so far as their ability to look past their own egotism and get the job done. Oh, and your imaginative input is also essential; so the artist must constantly juggle the amount of ideas they're projecting into the work, the requests of the commissioner, and the time limit. Like Ebly said, its a difficult equilibrium to maintain. I myself don't claim to know what makes an excellent artist, but I do know what makes a bad artist. And knowing is half the battle.

Making personal work, in itself on the other hand, can be self rewarding; doodling in Rick's style is a fun challenge for me because its completely opposite of mine, which is just drawing things more realistically :p

Sinder · Post by **Sinder** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:42 pm

Two_Twig wrote:words

hey

HEY

more art

Post by **rickgriffin** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:49 pm

Ebly wrote:
The only thing I have to add is that sometimes the people who aren't full of themselves can get a bit too down on their own work. It's a difficult equilibrium to maintain!

The key, of course, is to prefer doing art to any other work, and then develop a sort of masochism toward criticism.

Teh Brawler · Post by **Teh Brawler** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:29 pm

Two_Twig wrote:Let me just say this now, because I actually feel for this topic of discussion, being an artist pretty much requires you not to become attached to any of your work. The first months I spent studying art with my professor he had us rip up our art work and do it over countless times. In order for an artist to actually succeed in their profession they need to be able to work fast, and not dwell too much on the little details. Its important to note your mistakes and improve of course, but remember, when your working on a commission from someone you can't waste time either; and the commissioner is always right. No excuses. The skill of an artist only goes so far as their ability to look past their own egotism and get the job done. Oh, and your imaginative input is also essential; so the artist must constantly juggle the amount of ideas they're projecting into the work, the requests of the commissioner, and the time limit. Like Ebly said, its a difficult equilibrium to maintain. I myself don't claim to know what makes an excellent artist, but I do know what makes a bad artist. And knowing is half the battle.

Making personal work, in itself on the other hand, can be self rewarding; doodling in Rick's style is a fun challenge for me because its completely opposite of mine, which is just drawing things more realistically :p

I agree with this wholeheartedly, but there's a difference between not getting attached to your work and never being happy with what you produce. That's one thing I've had to learn, that I'm never going to be able to produce what I imagine, not because I'm not necessarily good enough, but because what I draw will always come out different than what I initially imagined. So, I've developed the ability to be happy with what I finish with, even if it doesn't quite fit what I had in mind, as long as there aren't any real mistakes in it.

Two_Twig · Post by **Two_Twig** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:24 pm

Teh Brawler wrote:I agree with this wholeheartedly, but there's a difference between not getting attached to your work and never being happy with what you produce. That's one thing I've had to learn, that I'm never going to be able to produce what I imagine, not because I'm not necessarily good enough, but because what I draw will always come out different than what I initially imagined. So, I've developed the ability to be happy with what I finish with, even if it doesn't quite fit what I had in mind, as long as there aren't any real mistakes in it.

I'm not saying that an artist should never be happy with what they produce, there's nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, some people are just highly critical of their own work. There is no advice or understanding to it, it just depends on who you're asking. If you asked me, an artist should enjoy the passion of making something, while also trying to improve or change their work. If an artist keeps producing the same thing over and over, it becomes dull. Artist's are always in the state of continuing development, so its not easy to say your artwork is good because in your head you know it can be better.

Also, the mind is a complex, convoluted, intangible piece of substance. The ability to pull a perfect image from that, and put it on paper exactly as you imagined, is virtually impossible. The sooner people come to terms with that, the happier they'll be, so its good to see you understand that. It's not a fault, its just something every person, be they artist or not, has to work around. Whew, I think I'm getting too worked up over this.

Teh Brawler · Post by **Teh Brawler** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:27 pm

Two_Twig wrote:I'm not saying that an artist should never be happy with what they produce, there's nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, some people are just highly critical of their own work. There is no advice or understanding to it, it just depends on who you're asking. If you asked me, an artist should enjoy the passion of making something, while also trying to improve or change their work. If an artist keeps producing the same thing over and over, it becomes dull. Artist's are always in the state of continuing development, so its not easy to say your artwork is good because in your head you know it can be better.

Also, the mind is a complex, convoluted, intangible piece of substance. The ability to pull a perfect image from that, and put it on paper exactly as you imagined, is virtually impossible. The sooner people come to terms with that, the happier they'll be, so its good to see you understand that. It's not a fault, its just something every person, be they artist or not, has to work around. Whew, I think I'm getting too worked up over this.

I think I might be, too, since I think, after reading that, that we agree on the subject, we're just expressing different viewpoints on the topic, and if we aren't, we are now, 'cause I do agree with that ^.

Ebly · Post by **Ebly** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:14 pm

rickgriffin wrote:
Ebly wrote:
The only thing I have to add is that sometimes the people who aren't full of themselves can get a bit too down on their own work. It's a difficult equilibrium to maintain!

The key, of course, is to prefer doing art to any other work, and then develop a sort of masochism toward criticism.

Needless to say I am not an artist! Heeheehee

The Game · Post by **The Game** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:28 pm

I made a sorry attempt at drawing HP
.....
lets just say Peanut ended up looking like Pete

GameCobra · Post by **GameCobra** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:53 pm

I marvel at my art so much as i draw it, i just can't see my poor character having that extra freckle more than he should or have a color or finger shape <i>wrong</i>.

Afterall, it's a thing of beauty. it's...Perfect.

but then i decided to put that character into a book. everything was solved!

Anthroguy101 · Post by **Anthroguy101** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:34 am

I'd just like to point out that when I write, there always seems to be something wrong with it, and if I attempted to make it "perfect" I would be editing ad infinitum. You just have to learn to eventually live with what you made and see what others think of it. Minor blemishes won't take away from the general premise.

Hipstar · Post by **Hipstar** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:48 am

BlueArmy wrote:I'd just like to point out that when I write, there always seems to be something wrong with it, and if I attempted to make it "perfect" I would be editing ad infinitum. You just have to learn to eventually live with what you made and see what others think of it. Minor blemishes won't take away from the general premise.

rule of thumb with writing: even though you may be able to replace words endlessly, you should stop the moment when it sounds good. read your writing aloud, and if something sounds off, fix it until it it can be spoken fluently. after all, all writing is meant to be read aloud (this goes double for poetry).

WolvenPaw15 · Post by **WolvenPaw15** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:35 am

*sighs*

I just can't get Fido's ears or facial features right and if I ever do I still have to draw Sabrina and Reno (Their son in my fanfic if you didn't know)

Kyderra · Post by **Kyderra** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:23 pm

http://james319.deviantart.com/art/Hous ... -149127118
awwwwww

http://james319.deviantart.com/art/Hous ... -145570612
not so awww O_o