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The Grey Wolverine wrote:So, have any of you guys used Windows 8? I'm actually just wondering because it seems kind of okay, but at the same time cluttered :/

It's only good on the Surface or other touch-screen based computers. If you prefer a keyboard-and-mouse setup then you're better off sticking with Win-7.

Ahhs, I hate touchscreen monitors, they just seem to add unnecessary amounts of cash to a purchase :/

They're just a matter of flash over substance IMO. I don't want fancy I want functional and idiot proof.

I can't say I'm a fan of touch-screens either. Especially when you're trying to click a small link, and you end up accidentally clicking something different. Makes me want to throw said device out a window.

In my opinion, Windows 8 is not as much an improvement as a change from 7. It almost seems as if it was designed with Microsoft's new tablets as the primary focus, and added to desktops as an afterthought.

Basically, it's good for touch-screens, but no better than 7 for desktops.

Just my opinion.

Touch screens have their purpose, but usually when size is an issue. A keyboard and mouse gives me access to just about any controls I could need. The only time I'd want a touchscreen is on something like a smartphone or a DS, where there's no room for that.

Mickey the Luxray wrote:

The Grey Wolverine wrote:So, have any of you guys used Windows 8? I'm actually just wondering because it seems kind of okay, but at the same time cluttered :/

It's only good on the Surface or other touch-screen based computers. If you prefer a keyboard-and-mouse setup then you're better off sticking with Win-7.

I'd disagree very strongly. *giggles*

Vulpes wrote:In my opinion, Windows 8 is not as much an improvement as a change from 7. It almost seems as if it was designed with Microsoft's new tablets as the primary focus, and added to desktops as an afterthought.

Microsoft is trying to create a unified experience across the devices that run their operating system: tablets, smartphones, PCs, and Xbox consoles. The tiled interface isn't inappropriate for a desktop. Regarding OS performance, I've actually seen pretty dramatic speed improvements on my Windows 8 desktop, as opposed to the Windows 7 machines I've used recently. (My desktop boots to the login screen in an average of 10 seconds from hitting the power button and I don't have a Solid State Drive.)

As far as being "clunky," you can move or delete tiles on the start screen and all you have to do to search is start typing the name of the file or program you're looking for from there.

I've run Windows 8 (and subsequently, 8.1) on my desktop since July and have used Windows Phone 8 since February and I've been more than satisfied with both.

I have a Windows Phone 8, too. Just sayin'. :p

I have the Nokia 810. I like my phone too.

Dissension wrote:

Vulpes wrote:In my opinion, Windows 8 is not as much an improvement as a change from 7. It almost seems as if it was designed with Microsoft's new tablets as the primary focus, and added to desktops as an afterthought.

Microsoft is trying to create a unified experience across the devices that run their operating system: tablets, smartphones, PCs, and Xbox consoles. The tiled interface isn't inappropriate for a desktop. Regarding OS performance, I've actually seen pretty dramatic speed improvements on my Windows 8 desktop, as opposed to the Windows 7 machines I've used recently. (My desktop boots to the login screen in an average of 10 seconds from hitting the power button and I don't have a Solid State Drive.)

As far as being "clunky," you can move or delete tiles on the start screen and all you have to do to search is start typing the name of the file or program you're looking for from there.

I've run Windows 8 (and subsequently, 8.1) on my desktop since July and have used Windows Phone 8 since February and I've been more than satisfied with both.

That's good to hear. To be honest, I haven't really used it in depth. All I can say of what I've used is that I'm indifferent to it. It's definitely not worse than W7, but I'm just not that fussed about it.

Anyway, like I said before, it's just a matter of opinion, I guess. They are very different in terms of layout, so some people are bound to like it more than others.

what they should do is provide an option to use the more traditional layout if you don't feel comfortable with the tiled layout. that way they'd please those who like the new layout and those who don't.

I assume adding programming for a different layout wouldn't be too difficult or time consuming, since it's mostly aesthetics.

Or perhaps they want to force people to get used to it since that would make people more likely to buy their mobile devices?

Sleet wrote:Or perhaps they want to force people to get used to it since that would make people more likely to buy their mobile devices?

Angering people so you can sell them outrageously over-priced tablets and smartphones? *shrugs* Eh, Apple did it.

*is an ardent supporter of Windows XP*
Death to Microsoft for forcing us to change OS every few years! *shot*

Still, I may have to get at least Windows 7 soon, some new games and even the Touhou game series are porting up to the newer Microsoft OSses. I still like XP though, simple and gets the work done.

Windows 7 is pretty good. Windows XP was good too. They both follow the "every other Windows is good" rule.

kurowolfe wrote:*is an ardent supporter of Windows XP*

*Has Windows XP because she can't afford the new OS*
*Got current computer off the street for free*

*Has windows 8.1 and is giving me h-... lots and lots of trouble.
*Hates Microsoft

(btw, is it me or is the chat thread not a active as it used to be?)

It's less spammy.

I use Windows 7 and have no desire to upgrade at the moment.

While we're at the topic of computer machines, Holy Mary whatever happened to Youtube?!

I dunno, I hardly notice anything.
What actually changed??

the comments section is run through Google+ now

Ah right, well no wonder I didn't notice anything then...

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:the comments section is run through Google+ now

That and some other minor issues.

"I'd prefer not to use my real name or switch to a Google+ account. I'd rather keep my perfectly satisfactory Youtube account, thank you.

*attempts to comment on a video*

Oh..."

Surely with the overwhelmingly negative reaction to all this crap, they'll change something.

My big issues are the fact that people keep embedding links that are full of viruses or those screamer videos ect. and the fact that there is no limit as to how long a comment can be. No joke, I have seen the script to Star Wars Episode IV a couple of times

I've always used Microsoft products. Right now, all of the computers in my house run Windows 7. That probably will stay like that until they expire too. =P

I hear Windows 8 is awesome for it's ease on space and ram on computers, but don't quote me on that since I barely touched Windows 8 much, but I like the tile system.

The Grey Wolverine wrote:My big issues are the fact that people keep embedding links that are full of viruses or those screamer videos ect. and the fact that there is no limit as to how long a comment can be. No joke, I have seen the script to Star Wars Episode IV a couple of times

I personally think that's one of the better changes made in the update. Cutting down responses to 500 characters was a chore, I'm glad to see it go. Besides, at least they aren't splitting the script into a bunch of 500-character comments. That would be a lot worse than just one super-long comment (that can be expanded and retracted).

I like the fact that the comments aren't limited!

GameCobra wrote:I've always used Microsoft products. Right now, all of the computers in my house run Windows 7. That probably will stay like that until they expire too. =P

I hear Windows 8 is awesome for it's ease on space and ram on computers, but don't quote me on that since I barely touched Windows 8 much, but I like the tile system.

Win 8 is a horror! It became a bit better with the 8.1 update that was given away for free (because Micro just KNEW they screwed up somewhere).
I already hate Microsoft, but for all its "streamlined betterness" there is a crap load of stuff that just doesn't work, like for instance apps downloaded from the app store that just keep returning you to the Metro screen and not loading.
This was solved somewhat with the update, but what wasn't solved at all is this:
Driver updating.
When you ask windows to check on the web if there is a newer version for your factory supplied drivers from 2009 or even 2006 its convinced that there are none to be found.
Look for them manually and you'll find them piece-of-cake, so why can't windows???

Tattorack wrote:Win 8 is a horror! It became a bit better with the 8.1 update that was given away for free (because Micro just KNEW they screwed up somewhere).

All products are updated over their lifetime. The 8.1 update was planned for a very long time and wasn't an emergency release.

Tattorack wrote:I already hate Microsoft, but for all its "streamlined betterness" there is a crap load of stuff that just doesn't work, like for instance apps downloaded from the app store that just keep returning you to the Metro screen and not loading.

Apps crash, it's possibly the app. I haven't experienced much of this on desktop Windows.

Tattorack wrote:Driver updating.
When you ask windows to check on the web if there is a newer version for your factory supplied drivers from 2009 or even 2006 its convinced that there are none to be found.
Look for them manually and you'll find them piece-of-cake, so why can't windows???

This has never happened, in my experience. When I install new hardware or a peripheral, even from obscure suppliers, Windows 8 has always immediately downloaded and installed the latest drivers for that product.

Oh God bloatware is the worst. When I get a new computer I wipe it and reinstall the OS. I don't remember which computer it was but one of mine had Windows preinstalled with no installation disc so I actually ran a pirated copy of Windows despite having legally purchased that same version. I'm gonna go ahead and call that legal. XP

On the subject of Microsoft
My dad's department recently had a fun time tracking down an issue on their website which ends up being that ASP.Net (a microsoft product) does not recognize Internet Explorer 11 (a microsoft product) and thus does not realize it is capable of using cookies. All people accessing the website with IE11 were only getting an error message and nothing more.

I really should learn how these new fangled computer things work one of these days.........

Sleet wrote:I don't remember which computer it was but one of mine had Windows preinstalled with no installation disc

as far as I know, that's the case with a bunch of brands. I know for a fact I ran into that problem with my Sony Vaio

Dissension wrote: All products are updated over their lifetime. The 8.1 update was planned for a very long time and wasn't an emergency release.

I know they were planning it out for a long time, because so many users had complaints about just win8

Dissension wrote:Apps crash, it's possibly the app. I haven't experienced much of this on desktop Windows.

Every app? Simultaniously? It made no differance to what app, they crashed. And I'm far from the only person who has it.
Almost every topic that got created about this problem had 10 or 20 other users agreeing that they had the exact same problem (and hardly no replies from Micro).
I guess you're just lucky...

Dissension wrote:This has never happened, in my experience. When I install new hardware or a peripheral, even from obscure suppliers, Windows 8 has always immediately downloaded and installed the latest drivers for that product.

Well not here, and again; not the only one with the exact same ptoblem...

Subject: Just One Word After Another

Saturn381 wrote:Hungary

RioluNation wrote:international peace treaty

Ok, someone changed what I had written. My original word was "Y-u-r-i", which I'm quite sure can be a person's name.
The last time I checked my rules of my game says this:

RioluNation wrote:This should be easy. You say a word corresponding to the last letter of the previous person. For example:
Person 1: Red

Person 2: dragon (or dragons, so the third person can say an s-lettered word instead of an n-lettered word)

When I went to go and edit my post, it showed "Y-u-r-i." But my post says otherwise. I would like this fixed please and thank you.

EDIT: I noticed it changed my word again, so now I had this edited to show what I'm talking about.

that's our forum censor at work. It catches words that are likely to refer to forum inappropriate topics and replaces them with others. You can see the actual word in the edit screen, but it posts as a different word or phrase.

usually, attempts to bypass the censor, including separating the letters of the censored words, are against the rules. but since in this case it's referring to a forum appropriate meaning of the word, It's fine in this context.

Mod Speak:don't do that when the censorship is justified, or you will be bonked

Thanks for helping. I honestly meant no harm whatsoever.