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I'm so bad with spelling that I've learned how to do Google searches to try and find the word I'm looking for.

Why must English be so hard?
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JeffCvt wrote:Why must English be so hard?
Because everything else is too easy!
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JeffCvt wrote:I'm so bad with spelling that I've learned how to do Google searches to try and find the word I'm looking for.

Why must English be so hard?
Because a bunch of French-speaking vikings invaded England and didn't want to learn the local language so they made up a monstrous fusion of both. Blame William of Normandy for that one.

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JeffCvt wrote:I'm so bad with spelling that I've learned how to do Google searches to try and find the word I'm looking for.

Why must English be so hard?
Because a bunch of French-speaking vikings invaded England and didn't want to learn the local language so they made up a monstrous fusion of both. Blame William of Normandy for that one.

@ Nyaliva and Beagle- Thanks for the support and the kind words.

@ Beagle again - Do say it like that, it makes me feel old! ;)
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Radio Blue Heart wrote:
JeffCvt wrote:I'm so bad with spelling that I've learned how to do Google searches to try and find the word I'm looking for.

Why must English be so hard?
Because a bunch of French-speaking vikings invaded England and didn't want to learn the local language so they made up a monstrous fusion of both. Blame William of Normandy for that one.

@ Nyaliva and Beagle- Thanks for the support and the kind words.

@ Beagle again - Do say it like that, it makes me feel old! ;)
*squees* The Battle of Hastings! I wrote about the evolution of the English language for my Western Civilization class this week.

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If y'all want to get technical the english language ( at least before the colonialism era ) Was at it's core germanic with few hints of gaelic here and there (possibly some latin though thats debatable).

Then England saw the era of vikings raiders and incidentally adopted some elements of the norse language.

Finally after a few centuries William "the conqueror" invades England and decisively claims the throne for his own, thus ensuring his old french blended with the already confusing "old english" language to more or less get what we speak today.

Go on and correct me! (i know you want to)
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-edit nevermind it's too late.
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Duster wrote:.

Go on and correct me! (i know you want to)
Now that you mention it, there really isn't a Gaelic influence on English. The Anglo-Saxons tended to wipe out most traces of Celtic language and culture in areas that they moved into. Most of the Latin was loan words.
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Duster wrote: If y'all want to get technical the english language ( at least before the colonialism era ) Was at it's core germanic with few hints of gaelic here and there (possibly some latin though thats debatable).

Then England saw the era of vikings raiders and incidentally adopted some elements of the norse language.

Finally after a few centuries William "the conqueror" invades England and decisively claims the throne for his own, thus ensuring his old french blended with the already confusing "old english" language to more or less get what we speak today.

Go on and correct me! (i know you want to)
*Peers* Not sure how to regard that last line.

The invasion of England created Middle English indeed, and that evolved into Modern English as the time went on.

As Professor Elliot Engel calls it, English is Anglo-Saxon married to French. So you are correct in that respect.

@Radio- There are actually small traces of the Celtic language in English. But those roots are real, real old and faint.
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JeffCvt wrote:Why must English be so hard?
English hard? Try Polish for example, you'll change your mind :P
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There are only a few things you need to remember about Celtic English and that is as follows:

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jopencjusz wrote:
JeffCvt wrote:Why must English be so hard?
English hard? Try Polish for example, you'll change your mind :P
I hear English is the hardest language to learn, followed second by German.
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English is the fifth hardest language, I believe. The most difficult are Arabic, Chinese, and Japanese, I think. It also depends on the speaker's native language. The romance languages, like Spanish, French, and Italian are easy to learn for native English speakers.
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Beagle wrote:English is the fifth hardest language, I believe. The most difficult are Arabic, Chinese, and Japanese.
I blame the complex caligraphy of these languages. Even if one of us learned how to speak one of these languages it'd be an uphill battle trying to learn how to write them!
p.s. The romance languages are often times too easy for their own good (except French, french is HARD).
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I think that difference is your native language. For example, native English speaker, will have problems to learn Polish. I know some people who were born in USA, moved to Poland and stay here. Only one of them learn Polish on really good level. My English is far from being good, but it's enough to communicate fluently, even with native English speakers.
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The writing systems have a lot to do with it. There are about 40,000 characters in the Chines language because it is pictographic. And Chinese is a tonal language. The same word can have different meanings depending on what tone it is spoken in.

Arabic has no written vowels, only vowel markers. A reader has to look at the word and the context it is in to know vowels it has. Hebrew and Phoenician are the same way.

Russian is easy to learn because the Cyrillic alphabet has no diphthongs but a letter for every sound. The Serbs use the Cyrillic and Latin alphabets for their language. I guess given their geographic location, close to Slavic peoples in the east that use Cyrillic like the Russians, Ukrainians and Bulgarians, and Slavic Peoples in the west that use the Latin alphabet like the Pols and the Czechs, they can communicate and learn each other's languages with greater ease.

One of the problems with learning English is it's French influence. The silent E is the bane of most students' existence. Of course I have heard that some people wanted to revise the English language and make it more Germanic in it's spelling. For example, instead of "fare" it would be "faer", or instead of "site" it would be "seit". Or some times the "E" would be eliminated completely so instead of "pole" it would be "pol".

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I would agree with that change. One of the more frustrating things about English is that you can't assume you know how a word is pronounced by its spelling. It was really refreshing in Spanish class how you could actually say words you hadn't seen before with confidence.
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In My limited experience
Russian is incredibly difficult to learn (really anything that requires you learn a new alphabet as well as a language is going to be difficult) and German is pretty easy to pick up. These levels of difficult are of course relative to my position as a native English speaker.

I need to learn another language, if nothing else it'll allow me to remain in my naturally vulgar mode of speech around children.
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my english is firtisish and? secondish language, I don't know, it's bad anyway, I hate being "ish" type.
Radio Blue Heart wrote: Russian is easy to learn because the Cyrillic alphabet has no diphthongs but a letter for every sound. The Serbs use the Cyrillic and Latin alphabets for their language. I guess given their geographic location, close to Slavic peoples in the east that use Cyrillic like the Russians, Ukrainians and Bulgarians, and Slavic Peoples in the west that use the Latin alphabet like the Pols and the Czechs, they can communicate and learn each other's languages with greater ease.
disregarding to their alphabet system, is Russian easy language to communicate and speak as well?

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texascat018 wrote:my english is firtisish and? secondish language, I don't know, it's bad anyway, I hate being "ish" type.
Radio Blue Heart wrote: Russian is easy to learn because the Cyrillic alphabet has no diphthongs but a letter for every sound. The Serbs use the Cyrillic and Latin alphabets for their language. I guess given their geographic location, close to Slavic peoples in the east that use Cyrillic like the Russians, Ukrainians and Bulgarians, and Slavic Peoples in the west that use the Latin alphabet like the Pols and the Czechs, they can communicate and learn each other's languages with greater ease.
disregarding to their alphabet system, is Russian easy language to communicate and speak as well?
Yes. My friend Jonathan speaks Russian. He says that it is much simpler than English. You can communicate more information with fewer words. You just have to get past the Cyrillic alphabet.

A lot of countries in central Asia have it as a second language for inter-ethnic communication. And, some languages, like Mongolian, adopted the Cyrillic alphabet over their original Chinese based scripts.
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Having so much trouble going to sleep, but then again - i'm on the PC too much. Maybe i should cut down on that... D:
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GameCobra wrote:Having so much trouble going to sleep, but then again - i'm on the PC too much. Maybe i should cut down on that... D:
I'd try reading a book. That usually gets me sleepy in a matter of minutes. Or you could impose a strict online/offline curfew so that your not glued to the screen past midnight.
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I second the idea of forcing yourself to shut the computer off at a certain hour.
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even if you turn off your computer at certain hour, there is cell phone. it keeps me away from sleeping early. :( screens every where! ahhh

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In modern times, humanity got really absorbed by computers, especially by internet which gives us worldwide access at home.
Imagine what would happen if suddenly internet got switched off on entire planet. It would be a pure disaster.
GameCobra wrote:Having so much trouble going to sleep, but then again - i'm on the PC too much. Maybe i should cut down on that... D:
Just like Sleet said earlier, you should make a plan for a shedule when you sit on computer and for how long. It might be a step to help you free yourself from this grasp. But to make it work, you must want it and be sure in its realization.
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Just set a bed time and try to stick to it and you can train your body to a schedule.

The only flaw to the book idea is that you might read something incredibly interesting or distressing. But it is best to read anything because it exercises your brain.

I made the mistake of reading H.P. Lovecraft's "The Lurking Fear" before bed. It freaked me out and made me paranoid. Every little sound put me on edge.

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Sleet wrote:I second the idea of forcing yourself to shut the computer off at a certain hour.
That time would be 10 PM for me. On a school night, anyway. Browsing the forums and reading memebase or fanfiction on my iPod Touch helps me to fall asleep at night, though.

@Grey- Its that time of the year. Time to join stage crew for me. :V

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it's "that" time of the year! now I get to mess around with sound and lighting boards. we sound and light maintenance guys don't get as much credit as actors. :cry:

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texascat018 wrote:it's "that" time of the year! now I get to mess around with sound and lighting boards. we sound and light maintenance guys don't get as much credit as actors. :cry:
We never do, texascat. We never do. At least at our school, the names of our stage crew members are on the t-shirts for the musical.
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sonic id furreh!!! wrote:aaaauuuggghhh sorry ai've been gone ;-;
Sonic, whats been up as of late!
not much just school stuff... me and a friend of mine are building and instrument
Beagle wrote:Yeah, really sonic, whatcha been up to? What grade are you in this year? 11th, I think?
I'm in tenth grade :P
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you guys get T shirts we don't. we have to throw our T shirts out because we work in really hot sound control room and T shirts get stained.

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sonic id furreh!!! wrote:I'm in tenth grade :P
also my mum's making me take piano lessons again
That would only be like the fifth time I've guessed wrong. XD

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Piano lessons are awesome! You should try to enjoy them and focus. :3
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I suggest accordion lessons o u o
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The accordion is far cooler than its reputation.
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I agree, Weird Al is the coolest.
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What about the kazoo!? The kazoo never gets any recognition!
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To my knowledge the kazoo has never been used for anything cool. :P

Even aside from Weird Al's ironic camp, the accordion is used for legitimately cool purposes. Accordion solos in jazz or tango can be great.
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