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[ Car Talk ]

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If that isn't petty, I have no clue what is. Besides, shouldn't your beef be with Thomas who spat that coin in your hand?

I can't imagine that the aardvark (who I totally knew was there the entire time) is very satisfied with that answer, either. Honestly, Steward is just doing everything in his power to suck as much as possible here.
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He must suffer like I have suffered
Steward might want to be careful that he doesn't cut himself on all that edge
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Well, he’s being petty either way.
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Steward's off his rocker. I think the trauma of being transformed, losing his job, being exposed to demon magic and living in isolation (except for Trinket, but let's be honest, she probably went off on her own alot) really damaged his mind.
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But what is Steward's task?
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Is Marion able to get out of the car through the left front window?
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I'm just waiting to see how Tarot's gonna counter...

That aside, I'm optimistic that something could work out between Steward and the Ferret.
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And Steward confirms it could be reversible.

Even Mr Aardvark has seen the truth,
that Todd’s quite an annoying little youth
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He can just watch him try to be all good.
So Steward’s plan is now fully exposed
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his hatred for Keene runs discomposed
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With more transformed, Keene’s trouble shrinks
as funding is found to help provide drinks.
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Steward has suffered like a guy who insists on beating his head against a wall has suffered. It's not Keene's fault that all of Steward's selfish schemes have blown up in his face.

Of course, if Steward was capable of that kind of self-reflection, he wouldn't be a (counts floors of the building) 4 story tall demon villain with butt-wings.
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Steward knows about heaven now?

I mean, not of it's existence, but of how it would handle this?

A lot has happened with him since we last saw him!
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Right, so. His ultimate goal is to make Keene suffer. To affect this, he's going to turn everyone every human in the city into an animal.

This will cause Keene to suffer... How, exactly?
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I think we are going to find out painfully soon that the butt wings are all that remains of Trinket. Also, did he forget about Tarot (and her cell phone) or did he step on her?
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PhycoKrusk wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 1:04 am Right, so. His ultimate goal is to make Keene suffer. To affect this, he's going to turn everyone every human in the city into an animal.

This will cause Keene to suffer... How, exactly?
..... and will butt wings be involved in his torments?
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dr_eirik wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 1:25 am I think we are going to find out painfully soon that the butt wings are all that remains of Trinket. Also, did he forget about Tarot (and her cell phone) or did he step on her?
Maybe Trinket protested turning everyone into animals so Steward did that as a final joke at her expense. :shock:
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Rydr Warklub wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 1:55 am
dr_eirik wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 1:25 am I think we are going to find out painfully soon that the butt wings are all that remains of Trinket. Also, did he forget about Tarot (and her cell phone) or did he step on her?
Maybe Trinket protested turning everyone into animals so Steward did that as a final joke at her expense. :shock:
If that's the case, then I really don't get badger humor.
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So, Steward's whole reason for this is because he's still angry at Keene and wants to make him suffer like he is? How exactly? It wasn't Keene's fault he turned into a badger and so, in any case, shouldn't he be angry at Thomas/Camel and not Keene? Methinks this will all be solved via Keene doing something to stop Steward.
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SeanWolf wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 4:46 am So, Steward's whole reason for this is because he's still angry at Keene and wants to make him suffer like he is? How exactly? It wasn't Keene's fault he turned into a badger and so, in any case, shouldn't he be angry at Thomas/Camel and not Keene? Methinks this will all be solved via Keene doing something to stop Steward.
He probably thinks it’s Keene’s fault that the coin even existed and it would never have happened if the Miltons didn’t move the temple to Babylon Gardens......still doesn’t make much sense but that’s the best reason I can come up with
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Gael wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 7:10 am
SeanWolf wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 4:46 am So, Steward's whole reason for this is because he's still angry at Keene and wants to make him suffer like he is? How exactly? It wasn't Keene's fault he turned into a badger and so, in any case, shouldn't he be angry at Thomas/Camel and not Keene? Methinks this will all be solved via Keene doing something to stop Steward.
He probably thinks it’s Keene’s fault that the coin even existed and it would never have happened if the Miltons didn’t move the temple to Babylon Gardens......still doesn’t make much sense but that’s the best reason I can come up with
In other words? Steward just needs a snickers bar to make him happy :)
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SeanWolf wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 7:17 am
Gael wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 7:10 am
SeanWolf wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 4:46 am So, Steward's whole reason for this is because he's still angry at Keene and wants to make him suffer like he is? How exactly? It wasn't Keene's fault he turned into a badger and so, in any case, shouldn't he be angry at Thomas/Camel and not Keene? Methinks this will all be solved via Keene doing something to stop Steward.
He probably thinks it’s Keene’s fault that the coin even existed and it would never have happened if the Miltons didn’t move the temple to Babylon Gardens......still doesn’t make much sense but that’s the best reason I can come up with
In other words? Steward just needs a snickers bar to make him happy :)
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Maybe Steward blames Keene for firing him. That makes no sense either as Steward was stealing and Keene had every right to fire him, but him being fired was the beginning of Steward’s fall from grace, so the badger might blame Keene regardless of how much sense it makes.
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trekkie wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 8:32 am Maybe Steward blames Keene for firing him. That makes no sense either as Steward was stealing and Keene had every right to fire him, but him being fired was the beginning of Steward’s fall from grace, so the badger might blame Keene regardless of how much sense it makes.
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Engaging wasn't quite their plan...
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PhycoKrusk wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 1:04 am Right, so. His ultimate goal is to make Keene suffer. To affect this, he's going to turn everyone every human in the city into an animal.

This will cause Keene to suffer... How, exactly?
My best guess it's that Keene would have to process each and every animal which would be really expensive, bankrupting him. But you know how the saying goes: when everyone is super, no one is.

Also, I wonder if Steward referring to "the ferret" had given Marion and Lois any clues as to who he is.
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ProtoDot wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 10:47 am My best guess it's that Keene would have to process each and every animal which would be really expensive, bankrupting him. But you know how the saying goes: when everyone is super, no one is.
A few people turning into animals is practically a blip, all things considered. An entire city of, based on the size of the buildings we see, not less than 50,000 people, but probably more than 80,000? That is a national emergency that would immediately go beyond the scope of ECP, and either:

a) State or even federal government will step in and take over the situation to try and figure out a citizenship solution, ECP will be absolved of further responsibility, and Keene wins; or

b) Federal government will step in to quarantine and investigate what's going on, there will be no citizenship solution, ECP will be tied up or dissolved, and Steward wins... except that he doesn't, because he fails to achieve any of his actual goals and just draws Heaven's attention to himself

From this, I can only conclude that Steward's actual goal is to just create as much chaos as possible in an effort to sour public opinion about animals generally and Keene specifically, destroying forever the concept of keeping pets and relegating every animals to life either in the wild or in zoos. After all, what does he care? He's a demon.

Or maybe I'm just imagining all of this and I'm wrong about everything. Realistically, this is the most probable case; I don't know anything.
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MrBlueSky7 wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 12:24 am I'm just waiting to see how Tarot's gonna counter...

That aside, I'm optimistic that something could work out between Steward and the Ferret.
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Argent wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 4:11 am The butt is aerodynamically the best place to attach wings on a humanoid.
That conjures up some bazarre and mildly amusing in-flight images........
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SeanWolf wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 4:46 am So, Steward's whole reason for this is because he's still angry at Keene and wants to make him suffer like he is? How exactly? It wasn't Keene's fault he turned into a badger and so, in any case, shouldn't he be angry at Thomas/Camel and not Keene? Methinks this will all be solved via Keene doing something to stop Steward.
Envy is an ugly emotion and inspires some very illogical and vindictive plotting. Steward probably blames Keene even for his disastrous alliance with Thomas, men whose hatred for Keene is stronger than their mistrust and resentment towards each other. Thank you, Dante's Purgatorio.
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Why is he talking so weird
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As seems, they aren't be able to get out from the car maybe because it's crushed to don't make the doors openable. Then, demon Steward neither wants to free them... :? He doesn't want to kill them, though. Keene forced him to turn people into animals to make him suffer? I can't imagine how that can make him suffer, it's just his economic heritage that suffers, at least. ;) Steward wants somehow to avenge against Keene... Oh, Todd, what curious question is that? :P
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PhycoKrusk wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 11:21 am From this, I can only conclude that Steward's actual goal is to just create as much chaos as possible in an effort to sour public opinion about animals generally and Keene specifically, destroying forever the concept of keeping pets and relegating every animals to life either in the wild or in zoos. After all, what does he care? He's a demon.

Or maybe I'm just imagining all of this and I'm wrong about everything. Realistically, this is the most probable case; I don't know anything.
Stewards original plan, pre-badger, was to simply make money and flee. If Thomas had found gold that wasn't cursed, in theory, he'd be living on a tropical beach outside of US jusrisdiction.

The reality is that, even under those circumstances, he'd have been arrested. Keene knew what they were trying to do. If they hadn't gone through with the plan, both Thomas and Steward (as well as Marion and Lois) would still be human.

His plan to bankrupt Keene was possible, but seems woefully unlikely. I still think that this was a bit of an ad-hoc plan that came up after Marion was transformed. It was never likely to work as once you started to hit some kind of critical mass of transformees you'd have various government organizations step in. There might be pressure on the ferrets, especually since there would always be people that felt they were behind it all, but they'd likely survive all that just fine.

As for if Marion and Lois know about Steward and his history with Keene. They do, as they were there when Keene found out who Steward was. They might not know every detail, but they knew almost immediately that their transformations were a result of what amounted to a dispute over money.
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Realistically, all you need to know about Steward is that he's an expert at blaming everyone else for problems he creates, but mostly blaming Keene specifically. I wouldn't be surprised if he's screaming about how it's all Keene's fault while he inevitably gets dragged into the underworld for getting himself involved with Eudoant and getting turned into a demon himself.
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ProtoDot wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 2:20 pm Realistically, all you need to know about Steward is that he's an expert at blaming everyone else for problems he creates, but mostly blaming Keene specifically. I wouldn't be surprised if he's screaming about how it's all Keene's fault while he inevitably gets dragged into the underworld for getting himself involved with Eudoant and getting turned into a demon himself.
Funny thing is, while he has only himself to blame, the one most responsible for his fate is Thomas. I cant recall if we ever knew if Thomas approached Steward or the other way around, but either way he threw his lot in with Thomas for the promise of a large payout. Thomas is the one responsible for Stewards transformation. Until the moment that he was changed, Steward likely had no idea what the specifics of the curse were, but Thomas did.

Keene said later, when confronted by Marion and Lois, that he didn't know what would happen if the cursed coins were interacted with. He knew only that something bad would happen. If he was particularly surprised that Thomas was a camel after the fact, he didn't show it. He already knew something bad was in the offing.
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At least Todd now knows when to shut up and can get put in his place by someone. Though I honestly don't think that Steward would actually go through with killing him. Just make him make a mess of himself. :D
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Amazee Dayzee wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 3:44 pm At least Todd now knows when to shut up and can get put in his place by someone. Though I honestly don't think that Steward would actually go through with killing him. Just make him make a mess of himself. :D
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After rereading this comic, i like the details of the cracked windows in the car.

EDIT: Regarding Stewart: It's still hard to figure out why he has such a bad focus on Keene, but going back on the comics - he seems to love blaming Keene for everything he's trying to do. I'm starting to wonder if he's blinded by money the same way Thomas was and just likes to blame Keene for his irresponsible use of the money getting in the way of how he views money should be spent?
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GameCobra wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 8:41 pm After rereading this comic, i like the details of the cracked windows in the car.

EDIT: Regarding Stewart: It's still hard to figure out why he has such a bad focus on Keene, but going back on the comics - he seems to love blaming Keene for everything he's trying to do. I'm starting to wonder if he's blinded by money the same way Thomas was and just likes to blame Keene for his irresponsible use of the money getting in the way of how he views money should be spent?
I kinda think he went into this with good intentions of saving the ferrets from themselves. As time progressed, I'm sure that got more and more frustrated and then started looking for an exit with a payout.
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That is how I see this all having went with him as well. I can't imagine he was greedy and just wanted out with a nice severance package. Of course, he went about doing it the wrong way but that is my view.
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