fenrirblack wrote:He has been set up as an antagonist (or at least a major player down the line because that was the entire point of part 1 and 2) but the problem is that while I'm a firm believer that the dino-demon is behind this there is no way of knowing that there could be a unseen character pulling the strings. My assumption is based on a two-antagonist narrative at this point. Steward being a secondary antagonist that is more in the lime-light while the true "big bad" is hiding in the shadows. Teen Wolf did a two-antagonist approach where as each season went on the two slowly became more entangled with each other like every season and extremely well I might add. The mystery antagonist doesn't have to pulled out of Rick's butt at the last minute as a "Big Reveal" scenario but brought in earlier under the guise of a stranger appearing in the story. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't eventually. We as the reader can deduce that this so-so character is the main antagonist but the characters wouldn't. Then later on, said villain reveals his scheme and we all pretend to be shocked. That is a more likely approach given Rick's own writing philosophy. Because we know that there is something or someone pulling strings that we have not seen. Both of them have been changed by unknown circumstances at odd times. Marion during the four hours he was asleep and Lois in bright daylight in front of witnesses. Lois's is especially particular for reasons I have stated which is that she seemed to be targeted because of her detective work and her role with Marion which tells me that this wasn't a coincidence or random magical energy surge that happened to affect her at that exact moment Marion was trying to extract Information from Thomas.
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Okay, what evidence do you see points to two antagonists? I don't see any myself within the story that's been revealed. I actually don't see a whole lot of convincing evidence of any theories within the story so far, to be honest. At least, not any theories that go into significant detail as to the hows and whys. The plot's been kinda tight-lipped with its specifics.
The reason I dismiss dino-demon is simply because dino-demon has no set-up interest in the arc, either plot or theme-wise. But there again, I'm not sure that the dino-demon has been set up as ANYTHING other than being there, just yet. It doesn't care about Keene, as evidenced by it abandoning him. It's only clear goal was to get out of . . . purgatory? Hell? Whatever it was, it's first goal was fulfilled and I don't see any clues to what it wanted beyond that. On the other hand, this whole arc, thematically, has been about loss, trying to get back what you lost, and possibly wanting things you shouldn't have (with Keene, maybe, not enough to go on yet). The dino-demon's motivations are not merely unclear, they are completely unknown, so there's nothing thematically that ties him to this arc. I therefore don't see it as being a narratively satisfying villain. Structurally, there's too much about the dino-demon that would need to be established for it to work, and I don't see that there's any way that you could do that work within the plot at this point that would both work within the narrative flow being set by this arc's pace and also not feel like it came out of nowhere.
Steward, meanwhile, lost his job, his self-respect, and his humanity, all of which ties in thematically with the arc. He was introduced to the plot as a Gendo Ikari shiny-glasses silhouette. That's not just sinister, but if the title text referencing Gendo isn't a superfluous joke, it hints at a guy who is trying to do what he thinks is right, but has his actions compromised by personal desires for things he shouldn't have (Gendo wanted to see his wife again, as well as fight off the angles) and whose abuses are the real cause of conflict in the plot (Gendo's abuses of Shinji were what made Shinji so unfit to pilot the Eva, which was always the biggest source of tension in the angle fights, as I recall). This is also thematically consistent with the arc. And again, he is the only character who is established to have the means of transforming others. So, narratively, he makes sense, where Dino-Demon doesn't unless you are bringing outside assumptions not confirmed within the text to the table.
Or you see something I overlooked. Always a possibility.
Wow, one of my English profs from my college days would be really proud of me for some of those long, complex sentences and that makes my cringe a little bit. But I take solace in the fact that Henry James would still sneer at me for being too concise.
Also, this isn't saying anything relevant to the discussion, but Teen Wolf isn't something I would really accuse of being well-written.