2016/10/26 - Of Rivers and Egypt

Post by **D-Rock** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:03 am

[2016/10/26 - Of Rivers and Egypt ]
Title Text: I didn't NOT do it if it helps.

I think I'm scared.

Douglas Collier · Post by **Douglas Collier** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:04 am

Where's the real Sasha??!

Saturn381 · Post by **Saturn381** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:05 am

What did that obedience training do to her?

Urocyon · Post by **Urocyon** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:06 am

Now I'm absolutely sure that's NOT Sasha...

GameCobra · Post by **GameCobra** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:09 am

Very certain that's Sasha.

She's acting like someone just signed her life away.

Macsen · Post by **Macsen** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:09 am

Actually...

...I think Sasha WANTS to be in the pound.

Douglas Collier · Post by **Douglas Collier** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:12 am

Now I don't think I like where this is going even more.

Welsh Halfwit · Post by **Welsh Halfwit** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:14 am

Something’s wrong, scary and awry;
No way Sasha thought this on the fly.
Someone’s skilled at mental manipulation;
Someone skilled in evading their detection.
Fox is right, she’s answering strangely.
her answers making her come off derangedly;
answering her questions automatically
continuing her storyline retrospectively.
Fox has forgot cop rule number one,
even above ‘Dogs can’t have a gun’
He’s forgot to ask the big one, by and by...
He’s forgot the big question is ‘why’?

AlyxVixen · Post by **AlyxVixen** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:16 am

I agree with Macsen. If Sasha goes to the pound, she gets away from her abusive owner.

guru4567 · Post by **guru4567** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:16 am

#SAVESASHA from herself! She has to be brainwashed, I hope.

Fox's expressions in this comic are great -- I hope this dialog continues and he is able to snap her out of this somehow.

also #SAVEMUNGO

Iceheart · Post by **Iceheart** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:16 am

I'm certain Sasha's eyes weren't always that pink. I'm saying possession or shape shifter. Maybe even a possessed shape shifter.

Macsen · Post by **Macsen** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:17 am

Douglas Collier wrote:Now I don't think I like where this is going even more.

There are two plausible causes here.

1) Obedience training became a brainwashing exercise from forces that want Keene out of the way.

2) Obedience training was genuine, but it triggered her to act out as a cry for help to get away from her abusive owner.

Considering how she's acting, I'm more inclined to believe #2.

Douglas Collier · Post by **Douglas Collier** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:17 am

AlyxVixen wrote:I agree with Macsen. If Sasha goes to the pound, she gets away from her abusive owner.

But he could just pick her up again and punish her.

Post by **SeanWolf** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:18 am

OK, after studying the past strips leading up to this one, this is what I deduced:

-Sasha isn't under mind control (Look at the sky in this strip - https://www.housepetscomic.com/comic/20 ... c-victory/ - note that it is roughly evening. Thus, the lighting is making her fur look a shade darker) by the pink husky girl

-Now looking at this strip - https://www.housepetscomic.com/comic/20 ... -evidence/ - and comparing it to today's strip, I did notice that Sasha is missing the heart shape on her leg. What I think is going on is that the Sasha in the video is the real Sasha and this one is a impersonator of sorts. Recall how Sasha is currently acting: She addresses Fox as "Officer" and not "Fox" and she acts all giddy over the fact that she attempted murder. Based on how Sasha acted in the past, this is unusual for her which is leading me to think that this is, in fact, Fake-Sasha and the real one is somewhere else.

Macsen · Post by **Macsen** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:21 am

Douglas Collier wrote:
AlyxVixen wrote:I agree with Macsen. If Sasha goes to the pound, she gets away from her abusive owner.
But he could just pick her up again and punish her.

Not necessarily.

The pound, in this universe, acts as a jail for dogs. Timed sentences are given, and it's possible she could use incarceration as a way to ask to get away from her owner.

Gbr23 · Post by **Gbr23** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:23 am

Ok ok, the only logical explanation is that someone in the obidience thing brainwashed Sasha.

... right ?

Douglas Collier · Post by **Douglas Collier** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:24 am

Ok, R-Rick, you've done a great job scaring us for this Halloween, so c-can we have a much lighter arc next, p-please?

kinamiya · Post by **kinamiya** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:27 am

oh dear.....
after this i expect that is beacause obedience training or some kind of mind control thing...........right?......RIGHT?!?!?!????

guru4567 · Post by **guru4567** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:38 am

I have a feeling on the next comic -- Fox is losing it, he is right up in her face. My guess is he breaks down and admits his feelings (maybe that breaks the 'spell'), and then someone he did not want to hear that, shows up and hears it.

John-056 · Post by **John-056** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:54 am

This isn't Sasha. Her body language, eyes, expression and the fact that she didn't recognize Fox just scream 'Imposter'. Someone, likely the canid infront of Fox, is trying to ruin Sasha's life and likely prevent the Rights for Pets to be on the same level as humans to even be signed.

I think that because what would be the best way to prevent Pets from having the rights of Humans? Have a Pet murder, or attempt to murder, the one who's fighting to give them the same rights as humans. That would result in negative press for many of them, resulting in the pets never having any freedom or rights afterwards, no matter what the Miltons do.

Gbr23 wrote:Ok ok, the only logical explanation is that someone in the obidience thing brainwashed Sasha.

... right ?

If you want my opinion, this isn't Sasha. It's someone who LOOKS like her, but isn't her. The obvious clue is in the previous comic. Sasha's missing the Heart-shaped mark on her Right Hip, and is noted to call Fox, 'Officer'. If this truly were Sasha, she would have called him 'Foxy-Bon', regardless of rank or job.

Another is that, if this WAS Sasha, the second panel would have had her tail wagging, or wiggling slightly. It's stock still in that scene. Sasha always wags her tail when she strikes a glamorous pose. Since the tail is just hanging up with no movement, this isn't Sasha. It's someone who looks like her but isn't her.

Just wait, The next scene will have her run off, Fox giving chase and running into the REAL Sasha, followed by the arrest of an Innocent Person. That, or this Impostor has the real Sasha under lock and key, and when discovered, would attempt to terminate both the ones who find Sasha, and her prisoner...

Hang on... Now that I think about it... Blank, Dead eyes? Seemingly uncaring nature? Un-Lively postures? Single Mistake on body? Chance that the real Sasha is elsewhere? Rick... Are you referencing the D-Reaper Agent from Digimon Tamers?!

Mistacheeeez · Post by **Mistacheeeez** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:01 am

Okay everyone, before we get too into the brainwashing, remember:

SeanWolf wrote: -Now looking at this strip - https://www.housepetscomic.com/comic/20 ... -evidence/ - and comparing it to today's strip, I did notice that Sasha is missing the heart shape on her leg. What I think is going on is that the Sasha in the video is the real Sasha and this one is a impersonator of sorts.

At first I thought the missing birthmark was either a mistake or Rick moved/removed it, but he not only keeps it in the surveillance, he makes sure it is the hip with the mark that is shown even after the mark is gone. This shows Rick is really trying to emphasize that this can't be the real Sasha not just brainwashing or mind control!!

leinglo · Post by **leinglo** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:20 am

Alright, that does it. This has officially upgraded from “acting a little out of character” to “no blanking way am I buying this.” That’s not Sasha. That’s someone impersonating her, someone possessing her, someone who wants Keene dead and wants Sasha to take the fall for it, but that's not Sasha herself.

I'm hoping this is an evil twin or something, because if this frameup is indeed supernatural in origin, there’s virtually no way to clear Sasha’s name by worldly legal means. They clearly got her on camera, that’s pretty much an ironclad case.

Bengali108 · Post by **Bengali108** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:22 am

I would like to bring everyone's attention to the eyes. Every one of the other characters have a pupil in each of their eyes - including Sasha herself (Ref: My Bolongna has a First Name). In the latest comic, her eyes have none. The only time I remember seeing a character with solid eyes but still having eyes but still having whites in their eyes are when Pete was having Bailey sign the contract to become his white avenger. I think hypnotism had the same result, but I can't remember instances in the past. Along with the evidence provided in regards to the birthmark, it is my guess that it is probably another demi-god of sorts that had shape shifted.

Interesting idea: What if Sasha has a demi-god friend that saw what Sasha did and is trying to take her place in jail, therefore protecting her?

CHAOKOCartoons · Post by **CHAOKOCartoons** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:57 am

That last panel is missing a well needed *HONK!*

Though continuing my theory from before: It might really not be just a mental snap, and this is just an imposter. Even if she mentally snapped, she'd still be more "excited" and bubbly about what she did. Here, she's clearly proud of it, but way too chill about it at the same time. Both in her motions and expressions. And I know that insane people are probably some of the best "actors" in the sense that they can act one way, and then suddenly another at the drop at a dime and be completely convincing that they might be sane, but she's really acting like a completely different person. Her personality is completely gone, left without a trace, it really can't be her.

Then again, the brainwash theory people are talking about would explain that, as it can be INCREDIBLY effective if done right, and make the victim a completely different person. This actually is done in real life more than one would think. And this IS the first time we've heard of these "obedience classes", here's to hoping Fox will be smart enough to go back to Mr. Hartford for more questioning on these classes.

Bullet · Post by **Bullet** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:07 am

Anyone besides me thinks by her face and reaction at the Joker?

gamepopper · Post by **gamepopper** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:24 am

I'm wondering if this is either an imposter like others have said, or Fox is having some sort of paranoid nightmare right now.

Post by **Hlaoroo** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:27 am

Another difference, guys and girls. This "Sasha" doesn't have her ears pierced like the real Sasha. I just noticed that. It's looking more and more as though we have an imposter on our paws.

Douglas Collier · Post by **Douglas Collier** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:29 am

Come on, Fox, you're a dog! Use your nose! Nothing can fool a dog's nose!

silver16 · Post by **silver16** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:44 am

Yeah, that's not Sasha. If that's Sasha then something is EXTREMELY wrong with her, and I'm going with the brainwash idea.

House42 · Post by **House42** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:01 am

Of Rivers and Egypt... Of. Rivers. And. Egypt...
*audible sound of a penny dropping*
Oh, I get it now! Clever

On a more relevant note, I still maintain this Sasha is a doppelganger and that Mungo is going to bust out of Jessica's door with an "OH YEAH!" (figuaratively, at least).

anhedral · Post by **anhedral** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:06 am

Mistacheeeez wrote:Okay everyone, before we get too into the brainwashing, remember:
SeanWolf wrote: -Now looking at this strip - https://www.housepetscomic.com/comic/20 ... -evidence/ - and comparing it to today's strip, I did notice that Sasha is missing the heart shape on her leg. What I think is going on is that the Sasha in the video is the real Sasha and this one is a impersonator of sorts.
At first I thought the missing birthmark was either a mistake or Rick moved/removed it, but he not only keeps it in the surveillance, he makes sure it is the hip with the mark that is shown even after the mark is gone. This shows Rick is really trying to emphasize that this can't be the real Sasha not just brainwashing or mind control!!

That seems like the most likely explanation to me. It's as if someone tried to copy Sasha but got a few of the details wrong (hip mark, lack of ear piercings.) But that only begs the question: what was the *real* Sasha doing at the docks?

Also - any thoughts on the title of this strip? I enjoy all of the references Rick likes to work into his titles, but this one has me a bit stumped. I *think* 'River of Egypt' might be a biblical reference to falsehoods in general, but I'm not really sure.

Douglas Collier · Post by **Douglas Collier** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:12 am

anhedral wrote:Also - any thoughts on the title of this strip? I enjoy all of the references Rick likes to work into his titles, but this one has me a bit stumped. I *think* 'River of Egypt' might be a biblical reference to falsehoods in general, but I'm not really sure.

Fox is in deNile.

anhedral · Post by **anhedral** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:57 am

Douglas Collier wrote:
anhedral wrote:Also - any thoughts on the title of this strip? I enjoy all of the references Rick likes to work into his titles, but this one has me a bit stumped. I *think* 'River of Egypt' might be a biblical reference to falsehoods in general, but I'm not really sure.
Fox is in deNile.

Aaargh, of course! I'm just over-thinking things, as per usual. *Bangs head against table, reaches for the coffee.*

Oh, and thank you, kind sir!

Vuk91 · Post by **Vuk91** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:11 am

No, Fox... Just stop... She clearly did it... She has told You face to face... Just accept it... Please?

Ugh, 10 Years of experience commanding Team Eagle in the great woods didn't pay off as it should have.

HundKatzeMaus · Post by **HundKatzeMaus** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:24 am

Gbr23 wrote:Ok ok, the only logical explanation is that someone in the obidience thing brainwashed Sasha.

... right ?

I guess so or she is really a shapeshifter or...she really wants to go to jail? She really seems to be aware what she is doing. So...I'm at a loss for words, but I really now want to know how it ends.

Still I like this arc, it's very tense, it's been a while since I wanted to know what would happen next

max7345 · Post by **max7345** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:15 am

...Ok, something is definitely wrong here. Sure, Sasha may be an airhead, but this...this is a bit more than airheadedness; it's like she's actively enjoying confessing to attempted murder and watching Fox squirm as his grip on reality begins to break. And that look in her eyes is a bit off.

I don't think this is possession - because Sasha's eyes were always pink, and possession is typically indicated by a change in the irises in this universe. It could be the pink dog in Heaven, but I don't really see any sort of motive for her; Sasha isn't Fox's girlfriend, and even if she was, the pink dog was perfectly fine with sharing Fox with the green one up there, so it can't be an "only I can have you" thing.

This would leave either brainwashing or doppelganger and I can see either one of these being the case. A lot of people have made a number of good points towards it being a lookalike (such as this Sasha missing the brown heart-shaped mark on her right thigh/hip)...but this seems like a conclusion that's entirely out of left field. Not to mention that it doesn't explain why her eyes are so deliberately weird. If it were a lookalike, then wouldn't the eyes look normal?

I'm leaning a bit more toward the "obedience training is a brainwashing scheme" theory. It makes a bit more sense given what we presently know, and ties in well enough with the obedience training mentions throughout the arc so far.

Although, this is Rick we're talking about. It's possible that the truth to this mystery is something entirely different from either of those three.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:35 am

Some people have been mentioning that this 'Sasha' that - along with missing her 'not a cutie mark' - is also missing her ear piercing. While I am totally on board with the idea that this is an impostor of Sasha and is not really her, I would like to show that the last time that Sasha has been seen outside of this arc (as far as I can tell) is in this strip https://www.housepetscomic.com/comic/20 ... ondegreen/ which, notably, Sasha is lacking her ear piercing as well. It could be just because she was on stage but it was something that I noticed.

Also, in that strip we can see Sasha's eye (along with the faint outline of her face) behind her hair tuff showing that it is simply a stylistically choice and doesn't mean anything important...I think.

This is my first time ever posting here on the forums even thought I've been following them for a long time. I just wanted to try to find the last time we have seen Sasha hoping it would be in this new style so that we could compare to today's comic. Sadly, Sasha's eyes are to small to see in Lady in Mondegreen but I am pretty sure the eye style that she currently has in this strip is a clear sign that something is really up.

Not A Furry · Post by **Not A Furry** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:36 am

Hlaoroo wrote:Another difference, guys and girls. This "Sasha" doesn't have her ears pierced like the real Sasha. I just noticed that. It's looking more and more as though we have an imposter on our paws.

She didn't on the new year's stripe either, I think it's just a style change.

Now that I notice, she isn't showing her heart mark on that stripe or her eyes' colour either!

MrBlueSky7 · Post by **MrBlueSky7** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:43 am

I feel like we're gonna be in for one BIG reveal come this Halloween...

Argent · Post by **Argent** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:57 am

So, where's the real Sasha and who's going to rescue her?