Arc 50: Housepets Babies!

yoyodude · Post by **yoyodude** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:18 am

Cuddles, anise, and rock n' roll.

GameCobra · Post by **GameCobra** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:24 am

This is just a hunch, but something tells me Fox's bitterness towards cats is going to be tied towards Maxwell specifically somehow at the end of this arc.

And a black trenchcoat is the only way to avoid all the bullets ~ I mean watergun shots coming your way.

IceKitsune · Post by **IceKitsune** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:05 am

You know if Fox is kidnapped during this flashback its possible that Grape had some hand in saving him. Which softened his stance on Cats and warmed the dogs up to Grape. Though if it doesn't happen here Grape could just beat him up or tell him off in such a way that softens them up to her.

Macsen · Post by **Macsen** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:44 am

Fox and Bino have always been "best friends". When he was younger, Fox was probably more impressionable.

kavviyenta · Post by **kavviyenta** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:20 am

Cool to see Fox actually use the bandana. Wonder why he didn't wear them for a while (referring to his debut)

sliceofdog · Post by **sliceofdog** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:16 am

Fox and Bino have always been "best friends". When he was younger, Fox was probably more impressionable.

Well considering the fact that Fido and Joey are both very pro-cat, and that in this strip Fox is bossing Bino around, perhaps Bino is the impressionable one? Maybe without Fox's influence as puppies, he would have grown up more like his brothers?

As for Fox, I like this version of him, at least with the knowledge that he changes later. I don't think the 'change in heart' particularly needs to be any major event (though considering Rick's reply a few posts ago I have the feeling that it will be) but it could simply be him growing out of his 'extremism'. He's like a dog version of a young, racist skinhead, but in a few (dog)years and with a bit more life experience (and possibly also him discovering his love of reading and mellowing out due to that) he relaxes his views a lot more and eventually stops trying to take charge of the other dogs.

... or maybe I'm reading too deeply into it and it will be a case of him being saved by Grape. We'll see later on >_>

Karl · Post by **Karl** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:14 pm

Guess this explain after who Bino got his attitude of hard tempered guy. Especially after seeing their size difference, which at this case it makes Fox older from Bino.

Kitch wrote:Fox and Bino have always been "best friends". When he was younger, Fox was probably more impressionable.

Perhaps for puppy Bino, Fox was someone cool to him. And that's why he was around him.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:41 pm

It's so strange to see a Fido that's physicality is that of the ordinary cast we see in the present...

But, its still so darn cool!

EvanAierkan · Post by **EvanAierkan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:17 pm

Clearly Fox has watched too many cheesy action movies. Well, at least he matured out of it later on, even though he still has his prejudices against cats.

Sinder · Post by **Sinder** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:48 pm

Fox had a black collar

he used to be evil

ChewyChewy · Post by **ChewyChewy** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:47 pm

sliceofdog wrote:
Fox and Bino have always been "best friends". When he was younger, Fox was probably more impressionable.
Well considering the fact that Fido and Joey are both very pro-cat, and that in this strip Fox is bossing Bino around, perhaps Bino is the impressionable one? Maybe without Fox's influence as puppies, he would have grown up more like his brothers?

As for Fox, I like this version of him, at least with the knowledge that he changes later. I don't think the 'change in heart' particularly needs to be any major event (though considering Rick's reply a few posts ago I have the feeling that it will be) but it could simply be him growing out of his 'extremism'. He's like a dog version of a young, racist skinhead, but in a few (dog)years and with a bit more life experience (and possibly also him discovering his love of reading and mellowing out due to that) he relaxes his views a lot more and eventually stops trying to take charge of the other dogs.

... or maybe I'm reading too deeply into it and it will be a case of him being saved by Grape. We'll see later on >_>

That would be very hard to accept considering the apparent role reversal of Bino and Fox that that would mean.

And "a young, racist skinhead"? Lighten up, dude--have you never heard of a "no girls allowed" sign?

GameCobra · Post by **GameCobra** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:04 am

In Babylon Garden, cats get the girl treatment.

Licking your own fur? Totally a cootie moment.

sliceofdog · Post by **sliceofdog** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:50 am

And "a young, racist skinhead"? Lighten up, dude--have you never heard of a "no girls allowed" sign?

Haha, well I was thinking more of the black collar and bandanna-over-mouth thing. But sure, that is also a possibility :p

Construction Boots · Post by **Construction Boots** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:18 am

Oh please let there be a black cowboy hat to go with the trench coat and bandanna so that the cowboy jokes can start up.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:04 pm

Its incredible to see how bossy Fox was way back when. I wonder what happened in the course of their growing up that caused the "boss" roles to switch between Fox and Bino.

Post by **Sleet** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:26 pm

Probably Fido became a successful police dog and Bino didn't, leading to an inferiority complex that caused Bino to assert authority whenever he could.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:22 pm

I guess that makes sense. But, why didn't Fox fill that leadership gap instead of Bino?

Seth · Post by **Seth** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:25 pm

Rook wrote:I guess that makes sense. But, why didn't Fox fill that leadership gap instead of Bino?

why does anyone take or decline a leadership role?
It just might not be his thing, or maybe Bino was just more forceful

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:36 pm

Fox seems like the more forceful one at this point in the "flash back" comic. That's why I'm curious to know why the younger Fox, who seems bossier than his older self, didn't become the leader of the group of dogs in the "Good Ol' Dogs Club."

Post by **Dissension** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:10 pm

'Cause Fido didn't trust him with it (or the other dogs elected Bino, since he was related to Fido)?

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:13 pm

You know, the relationship between Fido and Fox hasn't really been that thoroughly explored has it?

JohnWillow · Post by **JohnWillow** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:31 pm

Fox probably didnt become the leader of the club because Bino is one of the co-founders.

From this strip alone i can kind of see where Bino's self serving nature stems from. It reminds me a bit of Sasuke and Naruto. Bino perhaps has a always had a friendly side, which is evident from certain past panels like when he gives Sasha a bunch of old presents which he didnt want to give and yet as she's going nuts over them he blushes, but because Fido is probably a few months older and more impressive for some yet to be explained reason people gravitate to him, leaving Bino seeking conversation rather than recieving it, leading to him to always question why. So he acts out, pretends to be the jerk so people will at least notice him.

Rook · Post by **Rook** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:39 pm

O.O Wow. That actually makes a lot of sense. From being socially neglected, Bino developed a less mature persona to gain attention. However, I don't see how the other dogs that follow him around find this an attractive quality. Do they also share the feeling of social neglect with Bino? I don't think that this is personally the reason why they follow him around, so maybe someone could shed just a tad bit more light on this subject.

You did make a really good point though Willow

Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:11 pm

JohnWillow wrote:Fox probably didnt become the leader of the club because Bino is one of the co-founders.

From this strip alone i can kind of see where Bino's self serving nature stems from. It reminds me a bit of Sasuke and Naruto. Bino perhaps has a always had a friendly side, which is evident from certain past panels like when he gives Sasha a bunch of old presents which he didnt want to give and yet as she's going nuts over them he blushes, but because Fido is probably a few months older and more impressive for some yet to be explained reason people gravitate to him, leaving Bino seeking conversation rather than recieving it, leading to him to always question why. So he acts out, pretends to be the jerk so people will at least notice him.

one thing, Fido being more impressive has nothing to do with age, because all three brothers (Fido, Bino, and Joey) are from the same litter, and therefore, the same age, give or take a few minutes.

JohnWillow · Post by **JohnWillow** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:16 pm

Rook wrote:O.O Wow. That actually makes a lot of sense. From being socially neglected, Bino developed a less mature persona to gain attention. However, I don't see how the other dogs that follow him around find this an attractive quality. Do they also share the feeling of social neglect with Bino? I don't think that this is personally the reason why they follow him around, so maybe someone could shed just a tad bit more light on this subject.

You did make a really good point though Willow

Thank you, that's quite kind. Most of them probably don't find this attractive, perhaps they just respect Fido too much to oust him. Like fox once said "Have you ever wondered why doing you harm is not grounds for expulsion". And now that i think of it rigging a bag of catnip with explosives must make him quite intelligent to some degree, he's a bit like Malcolm in the Middle, everyone recognizes that he's smart, some know that he's kind at heart, and they all can't stand how judgemental he is.

As for the ones who hang around him Fox must just know there's more to him than his selfish exterior. Rex is probably too dumb to know the difference and i think Sasha likes being the girlfriend of the one in charge

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote: one thing, Fido being more impressive has nothing to do with age, because all three brothers (Fido, Bino, and Joey) are from the same litter, and therefore, the same age, give or take a few minutes.

Heh, i forgot that they were from the same litter. I also forgot what Bino ranted on about in Fido's return, not quite forgot, more like assumed that Fido hand't quite done all that stuff, but i see now how he's an impressive dog. Even before he was impressive perhaps like i wrote Bino might have had to seek conversation. I've had that problem myself. It's quite a confusing thing when you're not that bad a guy and pretty social but when you're packing your things away after class you don't get asked what you're doing next. Not that i dont have friends or it bothers me this is just something that happens.

IceKitsune · Post by **IceKitsune** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:20 pm

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:
JohnWillow wrote:Fox probably didnt become the leader of the club because Bino is one of the co-founders.

From this strip alone i can kind of see where Bino's self serving nature stems from. It reminds me a bit of Sasuke and Naruto. Bino perhaps has a always had a friendly side, which is evident from certain past panels like when he gives Sasha a bunch of old presents which he didnt want to give and yet as she's going nuts over them he blushes, but because Fido is probably a few months older and more impressive for some yet to be explained reason people gravitate to him, leaving Bino seeking conversation rather than recieving it, leading to him to always question why. So he acts out, pretends to be the jerk so people will at least notice him.
one thing, Fido being more impressive has nothing to do with age, because all three brothers (Fido, Bino, and Joey) are from the same litter, and therefore, the same age, give or take a few minutes.

Was it ever actually confirmed that they are from the same exact litter? I mean because they could just have the same parents and they were all bought from the same breeder. They could live together in Babylon Gardens since the breeder was close by, or even lived in BG. I mean Joey's cast page says that he is "the runt of his litter" and it could mean that its the same litter as Bino and Fido but it can also mean he was part of another litter since you would be more likely to say "the runt of the litter" if they were all in the same one, not "his litter" which could easily imply he is from a second (or even third) one.

Edit: I'm not saying they aren't, just that I don't think we actually know for sure that they were.

Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:35 pm

I brought up the same point at another time, and Diss confirmed their from the same litter, I assume from knowledge gained directly from Rick.

IceKitsune · Post by **IceKitsune** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:40 pm

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:I brought up the same point at another time, and Diss confirmed their from the same litter, I assume from knowledge gained directly from Rick.

Well if he got it from Rick ok then.

Post by **Sleet** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:42 pm

Well they are the same person.

Rook wrote:I guess that makes sense. But, why didn't Fox fill that leadership gap instead of Bino?

Because Bino is related to Fido.

KJOokami · Post by **KJOokami** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:45 pm

I thought it was pretty well understood why Fido is "more impressive" and people gravitate to him. O__o

JohnWillow · Post by **JohnWillow** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:28 am

All i meant was this arc may be set before he does anything impressive and so there could be a few primitial circumstances that turned Bino into what he is today. I'm not so sure Fox was bullying Bino, i think he was just telling him off for raising his voice more while officer Ralph is talking.

Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:01 am

so he's not that big a jerk. I'm glad.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:03 am

Action-packed Fox XD

IceKitsune · Post by **IceKitsune** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:04 am

I love the look Fox gives Bino in the last panel. I'm glad hes not willing to beat up a kitten. However Binos willingness to have him do it kind of disturbs me a bit.

Seth · Post by **Seth** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:04 am

Heh, love how Grape appears completely unfazed

Zukio · Post by **Zukio** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:04 am

A dog who's bigger than you is twirling a stick and looks like he's about to attack. And Grape just watches and licks a lollipop. She is awesome and must really like that lollipop.

Post by **rickgriffin** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:05 am

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:I brought up the same point at another time, and Diss confirmed their from the same litter, I assume from knowledge gained directly from Rick.

I was fairly sure I only ever said they were brothers for sure

Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:07 am

DISS YOU HAVE MISLEAD ME!!!

Zukio · Post by **Zukio** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:09 am

I can't wait to find out how the system of siblings works then. And now I wonder how many other times Diss has mislead us.

IceKitsune · Post by **IceKitsune** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:09 am

rickgriffin wrote:
RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:I brought up the same point at another time, and Diss confirmed their from the same litter, I assume from knowledge gained directly from Rick.
I was fairly sure I only ever said they were brothers for sure

Interesting, then until further info is given I'm going to go back to my original assumption of them just being from the same breeder and having the same parents.