Housepets!

Keeperixx

Thank you for elaborating. This was not clear to me. And part of the reason why is: I have literally never seen this happen in the comic, nor anything that I would have remotely read in that way. Not sure where you're pulling this from at all, quite frankly. The humans in the HP! world are fully aw...

Keeperixx

Again with that "contentment with the situation as is" thing? You claim it's in-universe, but none of the strips I've read properly support that claim. Heck, the apparent gradual rise of Anthro Rights in recent strips seem to outright contradict or abandon that claim if I'm wrong and that...

Keeperixx

Ok, I get most of what you're saying, but here's a small detail I'm still tilting my head at. If you agree with me that the HP! Anthros are strictly sentient, why is it in previous posts you kept trying to drawing comparisons between them and animals in real life like you were expecting me to view ...

Keeperixx

Please spare me that pedantic, shock collars wouldn't be an option for me in any universe. I'm not being pedantic. It was important to me that it be noted in this discussion that I consider shock collars unethical in any universe. Since your phrasing left me unsure of your position, I decided to cl...

Keeperixx

I know if I was living in a setting like the Housepets universe and I was Bino's owner, a shock collar would never be an option for me, and I'd be begging his forgiveness if I even remotely considered it. I don't know if you intended it, but this implies that putting a shock collar on a dog in this...

Keeperixx

He’s very caring of Max the one time we actually see them talk for more than a sentence. Kindness toward one pet does not excuse an act of abuse toward another, if anything, that implies bias toward one pet and/or against the other. As for the mailman issue, he loved the mailman piñata that Peanut ...

Keeperixx

It's implied Bino's owner isn't exactly the kindest owner. I believe that, even given this comic's universe, a shock-collar is too messed up. So maybe his owner made it himself. That would probably get him arrested, as Sasha's owner just neglects her but gets his ownership revoked, so maybe Grape's...

Keeperixx

Aren’t shock collars typically to condition a dog to stop barking? Could be he was being hostile to passerby, and his dislike of mailmen is canon. I might've have overlooked his dislike of mailman. But even then, again, I've seen nothing that implies Bino has any history of violence toward humans. ...

Keeperixx

I'm admittingly partially reopening a discussion I started in a previous topic, but I think this deserves to be talked about a little. Why did Bino's owner put him in a shock collar? As shown in this strip? https://www.housepetscomic.com/comic/2009/03/09/bzzt/ Later strips had Bino vaguely bring up ...

Keeperixx

Yeah, why state something that's already pretty obvious to most people? It's important that we know that Keene isn't dead, but... well, he's not dead. What more did you want Rick to say? Why did he go to heaven briefly if he wasn't actually dead? I don't see that as an important detail. What else? ...

Keeperixx

Basically, Rick isn’t required to spoon-feed every minute detail. If it was something clearly trivial like what pizza Keene was ordering, I could buy that being not relevant enough to bring up. But again, we're talking Keene's freaking vital signs , I never saw any other story treat such a factor a...

Keeperixx

Again, you're the only one I've seen who was this confused. I guess it wasn't clear to you, but that doesn't necessarily mean the comic isn't expressing the idea clearly enough. Keene was assumed dead by everyone in heaven simply because he was there in heaven, but we never actually got official wo...

Keeperixx

I think that's it. He didn't think it was necessary. If that's your only remaining defense of this plothole (and one without any official sources to back it), we'll clearly at an impasse. Let's try a different angle, did Rick, to your knowledge, express any displeasure toward Keene at any point aft...

Keeperixx

It could likely be that Rick didn't believe it was necessary for the concept of near-death experiences to be explained, as they are a documented event in real life. It's not the concept itself that needed explanation, it's the universe not being presented in the comic that's the problem. Edit: besi...

Keeperixx

We don't need a precise answer for why this happened, only that it did. And we have previous experience with celestials and a heavenly memento that appears in the next arc that confirms that events did happen. If you have the context of near death experience, and are familiar with the concept of pe...

Keeperixx

Considering you are the only person I have seen who was at all confused by this beyond perhaps getting this "near-death experience" explanation from someone, I'm not sure the problem rests with the comic. Consider also that the only way any interaction between celestials and mortals has e...

Keeperixx

The reason why you haven't lost anything in failing to view the two of them sympathetically is because there is no way that Rick actually wants you to view them specifically. Rick wanted you to come up with your own conclusions about them. It was always up to the reader. If Rick wanted you to sympa...

Keeperixx

Kitsune had the perfect opportunity to screw both King and Bailey over before the pups were born when Pete and Dragon were reincarnated. All he had to do was make them be born their pups. King would be a LOT worse off than he is now if that was the case. Maybe even having an actual breakdown. Kitsu...

Keeperixx

Regarding how Keene came back from Heaven, I'm in the boat that it was actually a near-death experience. As for the demigods, it is indeed part "I'm easy to please," and part "they're just as flawed as we can be and are still figuring themselves and the world out." You're "...

Keeperixx

I can easily find myself on Kitsune's point because of how he has to get his point across. If he were the type to just tell someone what they needed to do outright that would either be too easy or they wouldn't listen. Kitsune needs to actually trick them into coming into an ultimate realization. H...

Keeperixx

I recently cleared the arc where Keene Milton temporarily went to Heaven. And other than the plothole near the end where I don't think it was properly explained how and why Keene was able to return to the land of the living, I liked that arc's portrayal of demigods here much better than the previous...

Keeperixx

I have a bit of a social dilemma. A dude I know is working on a comic he's posted online that managed to get a TV Tropes article on it. The slight downside is that the YMMV page painted some parts of the comic in a.... less than stellar light. I tried bringing it to his attention on a social media P...

Keeperixx

Does anyone know if Rick had a beta-reader review the script of his comic before he put it online? Did he have editors? Bottom line is I'm pretty sure there are better ways he could've written these demigods. He has run things past betas in the past. Don't know much about that. Housepets! is an ong...

Keeperixx

Consider that Rick possibly wanted to make characters of these characters, rather than just a driving force. Seems you missed a lot recently, a curse made by Pete was weaponized to give us Marion and Lois, further connecting the gods to the current plot. Zach being opener of ways IS superstition. H...

Keeperixx

Then we wouldn’t have King. We wouldn’t have Keene’s effects on the world. We wouldn’t have Marion or Lois. We may not have seen Peanut’s loyalty to Tarot. Zach and Jess may not have come together. And yeah, I mostly see these things as Obbl sees them. Then perhaps a better solution would be to kee...

Keeperixx

Rick is actually quite forward that a big flaw in the over-arching plot was the lack of involvement from most of the cast, so the criticism is certainly valid. On the other hand, in my experience, the Celestial characters seem to suffer less from flaws in writing and more from readers' personal bia...

Keeperixx

I like how most of the ones we’ve seen are just as flawed as the mortal characters. One thing to note, it’s been stated that the likes of Pete, Dragon, and Kitsune are the celestial equivalent of teenagers, so they’ll be having issues while figuring things out, too. As for “the whale guy,” that’s j...

Keeperixx

Something I noticed from the fan base (at least if TV Tropes articles are anything to go buy) is that some readers seem split on how the comic added supernatural elements to the comic. Some liked it just fine, while others thought it was needless. I found myself only slightly leaning toward the latt...

Keeperixx

My criticisms of Dragon were fueled by the apparent claim you tried to make in previous posts that Dragon is meant to be viewed as the more benevolent of the celestial beings given your explanation of Sabrina's compassion line. Which kinda contradicts the condescending behavior she displayed toward...

Keeperixx

I can't say I truly understand your way of thinking. There are plenty of freedoms lacking for pets that I would want to address living in that world, certainly. But even though their not always treated well, I don't see why them being sapient makes the treatment that much worse for you than what ha...

Keeperixx

You've also misunderstood Sabrina's quote: "I think what you're doing is good-- Compassion may be a virtue, but taking a stand is sometimes necessary." The compassion that she speaks of is Dragon's. Out of compassion Dragon does not want to upend the current status quo, creating chaos and...

Keeperixx

Hi, you've never spoken to me before this. I have never claimed otherwise. Please pay attention to who you're talking with or it's not going to be a very productive discussion. I don't even know what point you're trying to make here. Okay, on that I apologize, D-Rock kept bringing up predations and...

Keeperixx

Hi, you've never spoken to me before this. I have never claimed otherwise. Please pay attention to who you're talking with or it's not going to be a very productive discussion. I don't even know what point you're trying to make here. Okay, on that I apologize, D-Rock kept bringing up predations and...

Keeperixx

You're allowed to side with Keene. He has a point after all. Everything you've brought up is in fact being actively explored in this comic. Mammals, avians, and reptiles are sapient in this universe. They also prey on each other because many are still obligate carnivores. They have less of an insti...

Keeperixx

Well, with that in mind, there is still the fact that predation is a very real thing in-universe. Which would mean the predations are all conscious decisions and thus instinct doesn't hamper their sapience. They can take stock of consequences when necessary. And thus, there's no reason to not to ho...

Keeperixx

I still don’t see how a physical need/desire to eat means there’s no instinct involved. I don’t think instinct and sapience are mutually exclusive. Sapience is consciousness, involves self-awareness and self-control, when you do something consciously and you know why you're doing it. you're able to...

Keeperixx

Not all the pets we see have speaking roles, either. And it did say something in response to what it’s owner said. I'll grant you I missed that detail. But even still, "Aww!" implies conscious eagerness to chew on prey and possibly sadism. Which would further detract from your "insti...

Keeperixx

D-Rock wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:02 pm Horses, camels, deer, and as we see, alligators, are all still quadrupeds.

Nice, I can concede that part, but it still doesn't explain why the alligator didn't show any signs of sentience before it tried to eat our heroes.

Keeperixx

I believe Rick has stated that non-sapient animals are indeed just bugs and small fish. Then why didn't the alligator talk, walk on its hind legs, or do anything to even vaguely imply it was ever sentient? Either Rick didn't input that rule until well after the comic with the alligator was posted, ...

Keeperixx

Regarding reptiles, there was a sapient snake at the zoo, and there’s later mention of Kathy from the reptile house, a viper. Insects and small fish are supposed to be non-sapient. That still doesn't detract from how the aforementioned alligator wasn't sapient. If anything this just implies some sp...

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