Re: Arc #61: PsyCon2: PsyConner
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:56 am
So now Peanut is trapped in an alternate universe?
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I don't think he is, but my theoretical time travel is a bit rusty. Peanut should be out of the time loop now.RootsofOrigin wrote:So now Peanut is trapped in an alternate universe?
Oh come on, what I'm doing is basically the beginner's guide to time clones.Sleet wrote:Gah all this weird time stuff and multiple copies reminds me of Problem Sleuth.
I know it's the same Peanut, but is he in a slightly different universe now? Look at the Swami-Hat Guy and the Other Swami-Hat Guy.DanTwelve3 wrote:I don't think he is, but my theoretical time travel is a bit rusty. Peanut should be out of the time loop now.
You're wrong. Actually, one guy's at the exit; another's at the "entrance".Dissension wrote:One guy's at the entrance; another's at the "exit."
Then again, it may not be so infinite and just require the process to be done just once more. Sometimes it only has to be corrected once and everything is fine and dandy afterwards.KJOokami wrote:There are actually three Peanuts (Future Peanut, Present Peanut, and Past Peanut) between the two comics, but yes, the Peanut that we are following is now out of the time loop.
Future Peanut walked away from the table and through the door (this was off-screen; before the comic), came out the other side and walked by Present Peanut, whom he suggested do the same (in order to avoid a time paradox). So Present Peanut walked through the door as well, came out the other side and walked by Past Peanut, and suggested he do the same (again, to avoid a paradox). Now Present Peanut will continue on in the comic as usual, and Past Peanut will be left to follow the same turn of events, warn Further Past Peanut, and so on and so forth.
You say that now, but then Fiesta Peanut is going to come up, and the future/past splitting's gonna happen, and it's just going to be one big clustercuss for everyone.rickgriffin wrote:Oh come on, what I'm doing is basically the beginner's guide to time clones.Sleet wrote:Gah all this weird time stuff and multiple copies reminds me of Problem Sleuth.
Even worse... Spot Peanut.Sleet wrote:You say that now, but then Fiesta Peanut is going to come up, and the future/past splitting's gonna happen, and it's just going to be one big clustercuss for everyone.
It's infinite by the very nature of its existence. It can't work any other way (that I'm aware of). Because if Peanut were to not go back in time (thence walking by his past self), there would be two Peanuts in a single time period, which is generally a bad thing. Which means he's kind of forced (by his own curiosity more than anything, I suppose) to walk through the door, which will continuously repeat the cycle for eternity.GameCobra wrote:Then again, it may not be so infinite and just require the process to be done just once more. Sometimes it only has to be corrected once and everything is fine and dandy afterwards.
but Time travel means that all of time is always in existence. people assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.KJOokami wrote:It's infinite by the very nature of its existence. It can't work any other way (that I'm aware of). Because if Peanut were to not go back in time (thence walking by his past self), there would be two Peanuts in a single time period, which is generally a bad thing. Which means he's kind of forced (by his own curiosity more than anything, I suppose) to walk through the door, which will continuously repeat the cycle for eternity.GameCobra wrote:Then again, it may not be so infinite and just require the process to be done just once more. Sometimes it only has to be corrected once and everything is fine and dandy afterwards.
Everything is fine and dandy though, because no single Peanut stays in the loop for more than the time that was shown in the last two comics. So while we can't, and won't (unless Rick decides to come back to this at some point to spite me), see the loop any more, it'll still be there.
Actually, in this case, there's a gate which is being used for both the beginning and the end in this case, so there's definitely a way to end it, it just depends on the nature of the gate. Peanut can either go through a infinite loop or only has to go through with it once to end it, depending on the nature of the gate.KJOokami wrote:It's infinite by the very nature of its existence. It can't work any other way (that I'm aware of). Because if Peanut were to not go back in time (thence walking by his past self), there would be two Peanuts in a single time period, which is generally a bad thing. Which means he's kind of forced (by his own curiosity more than anything, I suppose) to walk through the door, which will continuously repeat the cycle for eternity.
Everything is fine and dandy though, because no single Peanut stays in the loop for more than the time that was shown in the last two comics. So while we can't, and won't (unless Rick decides to come back to this at some point to spite me), see the loop any more, it'll still be there.
That's all I picked up. l:BRandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:time blah blah blah, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.
don't worry, that was the important part.RootsofOrigin wrote:That's all I picked up. l:BRandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:time blah blah blah, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.
That's kinda what I was getting at. There is only one Peanut, but when he loops back in time and meets himself, there are now two entities involved. So there are two of entities, but they are the same in every way. Think of them as "time clones".Obbl wrote:We see 2 Peanuts, but it's really just 1 Peanut taking a detour through time and overlapping with a point in time where he has been before.
But then what happens when four-seconds-ago Peanut takes the time machine back to four-seconds-ago to retrieve four-seconds-ago Peanut? There will be no one there to pick up.RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:ah, but what if current Peanut returned 4 seconds ago Peanut to 2 seconds between the two points and that Peanut went in the time machine?