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Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:32 am
by Alex
I agree with Bolly. I finally feel bad for King. I don't think he will try to escape - he'll get into more trouble when he gets back, and he knows it. Perhaps he'll try to talk to Pete or something... although that wouldn't be fun. Hm... I wonder what will happen next.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:55 am
by Liam
Sinder wrote:A) We don't know if King is correct regarding Pete's powers or not; he admits himself that he doesn't have everything figured out.
Concerning the "can't do anything beyond transformation" thing I would say King can't possibly know, since a) maybe Pete simply doesn't want to cause him (physical) harm at the moment and b) it's magic anyways, so the restrictions of Pete's abilities are probably arbitrary.
rickgriffin wrote:
Sinder wrote:B) We know that he's wrong about certain things; Pete has already rendered him unable to speak his real name, which is a pretty clear violation of free will
Did you see that thing in Bruce Almighty where Bruce made Evan say a bunch of stupid stuff on the air? He wasn't allowed to violate free will, but that doesn't mean he can't make them do things in more drastic ways than I could similarly take someone's arm and move it for them.

"Why are you hitting yourself" doesn't call free will into question, now, does it!
If that constitutes a violation of free will depends on the extent of that ability. If Pete could theoretically control King's every body movement and thus make a meat marionette out of him I would consider that as a form of infringing free will.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:18 am
by Don46
Kyderra wrote:I'm curious what type of Macgyver action King will do to get out.
Probably build a C4 Explosive with a paper clip, chewing gum, and 2 pairs of nickles.
No, NO!

It will be an A-Team-esque escape! I can see it all ready! Fox will will be dramatic and all, "I'm forming a team..." And he'll recruit Rex, Max, and Joey. And this is how it will go:

Four figures in a dark room, standing around a table with a lone light bulb shining down. Fox is putting the final touches of the escape plan on the table; "All right, for this operation, we're gonna needa few things. We've gotta get our paws on a children's wagon. Joey, you'll take care of that. Make sure it's level and that the wheels on it are good. Rex, I'm gonna need you to get a power drill. If anyone asks, say we're making additions to the clubhouse. Max, how good are you at swiping stuff?"

Max smirks and leans and puts his weight on the table; "It'll be like I was never even there."

Fox smiles back and continues with, "Perfect, 'cause I'm gonna need you to collect all the canned cat food and catnip in the neighborhood."

Max's smile fade's and he winces at the thought of having to keep his cool with such vaulued goods. Rex clears his throat and asks, "But what about busting King out? Don't we need more stuff?"

Fox's smile grows wider and responds, "Don't worry, I'll take care of the rest. Now, on the day of the escape; Max, I need you to break in to King's house and steal his owner's keys. Keys to the house, mailbox, car, as much as you can grab. Lure him outside and keep him there. That cat stuff will lure all the cats out. Use them. You'll know what to do. Joey, you'll be waiting for us in the backyard with the wagon. Rex, once King's owner is outside and well distracted, we'll sneak in and take King out to the back and load him on to the wagon. Then you'll pull it across the backyards all the way to the party. The boards of the fences will be loosened, so all you have to do is push past them. Joey, you'll be stearing the wagon to make sure it stays on course. I'll work on the lock to get King out."

The day of the escape had finally arrived and Fox's plan had gone off without a hitch. The foursome in the wagon arrived with a crash in the backyard of the house the party was taking place in. Rex fell to the ground, panting. Joey jumped off laughing his tail off. King stumbled out of his confinement and Fox slapped him on the back. Fox smiled and proudly stated, "I love it when a plan comes together."

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:25 am
by Tiggy
Okay, exactly how long did that take?:p

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:29 am
by Don46
It actually took quite a while to think out. I didn't really time myself, so...45 minutes to an hour, maybe?

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:40 am
by Tiggy
Well, thanks! :D Was a fun mental image :>

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:41 am
by Dr. Prower
Two_Twig wrote:
Sinder wrote:
Teh Brawler wrote:You haven't read his fanfics. :P
Hey, HEY.

Be nice.
I Love You

I mean that in a nice way of course.

Also, opposable thumbs mean nothing in this world against the pet cage
How can "I Love You" be in a bad way?

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:51 am
by sliceofdog
On another note. I think King will get rescued by someone *coughcoughFoxcoughcough*.
Actually, I think this may be a diamond opportunity to have one of the more minor characters come in an, perhaps without even knowing it, save the day. I can imagine Daisy or Joey somehow getting involved, and just not thinking there might be something more serious behind it ("King? What are you doing in there, silly?")

Also, can I ask what the original last panel text was? Just curious, cause I only read the comic a couple minutes ago.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:00 am
by yoyodude
I beleive the last panel was something like: "or you could've done that, anyone could've done that....i'm such an idiot.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:04 am
by Kyderra
We had a debate over IRC, and have come to the conclution that Daisy will save King, he will fall in love with her, and they get into a relationship
(C) Kyderra TM

Bring out your King X Daisy siggy's!

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:05 am
by Dr. Prower
Kyderra wrote:We had a debate over IRC, and have come to the conclution that Daisy will save King, he will fall in love with her, and they get into a relationship
(C) Kyderra TM

Bring out your King X Daisy siggy's!
Uh...I don't have one...

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:03 am
by arcict
Sometimes, it just doesn't pay to tempt fate.

It is interresting that Pete may be trying to show King just what kind of a position that he, and by extension all other pets, are really in.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:08 am
by FlintTheSquirrel
Fun Fun. Is Pete changing skin color or is it just me? Last strip he looked more pale, and now he looks like his own tanned self again.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:09 am
by Dr. Prower
FlintTheSquirrel wrote:Fun Fun. Is Pete changing skin color or is it just me? Last strip he looked more pale, and now he looks like his own tanned self again.
well it is summer :P

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:11 am
by Zander
FlintTheSquirrel wrote:Fun Fun. Is Pete changing skin color or is it just me? Last strip he looked more pale, and now he looks like his own tanned self again.
*pulls up Photoshop*

last strip: 245, 211, 138
this strip: 245, 211, 138

its just you.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:13 am
by Kyderra
I'm suuuuuure it's not bad thing to leave your dog in a way to small cage during the summer heat to go away for a day...
It's not like your house can also catch Fire.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:17 am
by FlintTheSquirrel
Zander wrote:
FlintTheSquirrel wrote:Fun Fun. Is Pete changing skin color or is it just me? Last strip he looked more pale, and now he looks like his own tanned self again.
*pulls up Photoshop*

last strip: 245, 211, 138
this strip: 245, 211, 138

its just you.
Ok, just my eyes playing tricks on me I guess, might involve how it looks as compared the the surroundings. Thanks.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:30 am
by rickgriffin
No you were right; I realized I got the skin color wrong on the last strip and fixed it last night

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:06 pm
by ReCreate
Zander wrote:
FlintTheSquirrel wrote:Fun Fun. Is Pete changing skin color or is it just me? Last strip he looked more pale, and now he looks like his own tanned self again.
*pulls up Photoshop*

last strip: 245, 211, 138
this strip: 245, 211, 138

its just you.
Photoshop is overkill for such a simple task. Even just a hex editor and some understanding of the image format could do(though only easily possible with bitmaps). :P(or mspaint :roll: )

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:31 pm
by Anthroguy101
Wow, that was actually quite funny. Was not expecting that.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:38 pm
by Neko
Wow....I thought of my fanfic when I saw him in the cage... *laughs when he remembers the vet scene in his story*

:3

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:46 pm
by Teh Brawler
Don46 wrote:
Kyderra wrote:I'm curious what type of Macgyver action King will do to get out.
Probably build a C4 Explosive with a paper clip, chewing gum, and 2 pairs of nickles.
No, NO!

It will be an A-Team-esque escape! I can see it all ready! Fox will will be dramatic and all, "I'm forming a team..." And he'll recruit Rex, Max, and Joey. And this is how it will go:

Four figures in a dark room, standing around a table with a lone light bulb shining down. Fox is putting the final touches of the escape plan on the table; "All right, for this operation, we're gonna needa few things. We've gotta get our paws on a children's wagon. Joey, you'll take care of that. Make sure it's level and that the wheels on it are good. Rex, I'm gonna need you to get a power drill. If anyone asks, say we're making additions to the clubhouse. Max, how good are you at swiping stuff?"

Max smirks and leans and puts his weight on the table; "It'll be like I was never even there."

Fox smiles back and continues with, "Perfect, 'cause I'm gonna need you to collect all the canned cat food and catnip in the neighborhood."

Max's smile fade's and he winces at the thought of having to keep his cool with such vaulued goods. Rex clears his throat and asks, "But what about busting King out? Don't we need more stuff?"

Fox's smile grows wider and responds, "Don't worry, I'll take care of the rest. Now, on the day of the escape; Max, I need you to break in to King's house and steal his owner's keys. Keys to the house, mailbox, car, as much as you can grab. Lure him outside and keep him there. That cat stuff will lure all the cats out. Use them. You'll know what to do. Joey, you'll be waiting for us in the backyard with the wagon. Rex, once King's owner is outside and well distracted, we'll sneak in and take King out to the back and load him on to the wagon. Then you'll pull it across the backyards all the way to the party. The boards of the fences will be loosened, so all you have to do is push past them. Joey, you'll be stearing the wagon to make sure it stays on course. I'll work on the lock to get King out."

The day of the escape had finally arrived and Fox's plan had gone off without a hitch. The foursome in the wagon arrived with a crash in the backyard of the house the party was taking place in. Rex fell to the ground, panting. Joey jumped off laughing his tail off. King stumbled out of his confinement and Fox slapped him on the back. Fox smiled and proudly stated, "I love it when a plan comes together."
And then they rob every casino in Las Vegas at the same time with the help of Peanut, Grape, Zach, Tiger, Marvin, Tarot, and Sasha.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:50 pm
by Don46
Teh Brawler wrote:
Don46 wrote:
Kyderra wrote:I'm curious what type of Macgyver action King will do to get out.
Probably build a C4 Explosive with a paper clip, chewing gum, and 2 pairs of nickles.
No, NO!

It will be an A-Team-esque escape! I can see it all ready! Fox will will be dramatic and all, "I'm forming a team..." And he'll recruit Rex, Max, and Joey. And this is how it will go:

Four figures in a dark room, standing around a table with a lone light bulb shining down. Fox is putting the final touches of the escape plan on the table; "All right, for this operation, we're gonna needa few things. We've gotta get our paws on a children's wagon. Joey, you'll take care of that. Make sure it's level and that the wheels on it are good. Rex, I'm gonna need you to get a power drill. If anyone asks, say we're making additions to the clubhouse. Max, how good are you at swiping stuff?"

Max smirks and leans and puts his weight on the table; "It'll be like I was never even there."

Fox smiles back and continues with, "Perfect, 'cause I'm gonna need you to collect all the canned cat food and catnip in the neighborhood."

Max's smile fade's and he winces at the thought of having to keep his cool with such vaulued goods. Rex clears his throat and asks, "But what about busting King out? Don't we need more stuff?"

Fox's smile grows wider and responds, "Don't worry, I'll take care of the rest. Now, on the day of the escape; Max, I need you to break in to King's house and steal his owner's keys. Keys to the house, mailbox, car, as much as you can grab. Lure him outside and keep him there. That cat stuff will lure all the cats out. Use them. You'll know what to do. Joey, you'll be waiting for us in the backyard with the wagon. Rex, once King's owner is outside and well distracted, we'll sneak in and take King out to the back and load him on to the wagon. Then you'll pull it across the backyards all the way to the party. The boards of the fences will be loosened, so all you have to do is push past them. Joey, you'll be stearing the wagon to make sure it stays on course. I'll work on the lock to get King out."

The day of the escape had finally arrived and Fox's plan had gone off without a hitch. The foursome in the wagon arrived with a crash in the backyard of the house the party was taking place in. Rex fell to the ground, panting. Joey jumped off laughing his tail off. King stumbled out of his confinement and Fox slapped him on the back. Fox smiled and proudly stated, "I love it when a plan comes together."
And then they rob every casino in Las Vegas at the same time with the help of Peanut, Grape, Zach, Tiger, Marvin, Tarot, and Sasha.
D8 OMG, YES! That's perfect, and then they take the money, split it amongst themselves and there'll be a montage of "Where are they now?"

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:04 pm
by Flamboyant-Pencil
The more I think about this comic the more unimpressed I am at Pete :V He's trying to teach Joel a lesson with the whole turning him into a dog thing. But what lesson is it? I thought it was to teach him to be a better person to animals and in general, but by not allowing him opportunities to do this, he doesn't seem to be getting anywhere.

Plus his reasoning is pretty arbitrary. >: Poor King

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:18 pm
by sliceofdog
The more I think about this comic the more unimpressed I am at Pete :V He's trying to teach Joel a lesson with the whole turning him into a dog thing. But what lesson is it? I thought it was to teach him to be a better person to animals and in general, but by not allowing him opportunities to do this, he doesn't seem to be getting anywhere.

Plus his reasoning is pretty arbitrary. >: Poor King
While it would seem that way, I'm sure Rick has some sort of plan with all this. As someone suggested, it might even be that Pete is trying to prevent something bad happening to King, or King doing something bad, that would happen if he went. It doesn't mean he has to be nice to King, or maybe he just doesn't want to appear soft. Point being we have no clue at the moment what Pete's overall motive is.

Still though, yes, poor King :(

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:26 pm
by ChewyChewy
"Lord, what fools these mortals be!"

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:46 pm
by The Game
First of all, i laughed so hard at the last panel.

B) what did the last panel say before?

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:49 pm
by FlintTheSquirrel
The Game wrote:What did the last panel say before?
yoyodude wrote:I beleive the last panel was something like: "or you could've done that, anyone could've done that....i'm such an idiot.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:58 pm
by ctcmjh
The Game wrote:First of all, i laughed so hard at the last panel.

B) what did the last panel say before?
Image

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:00 pm
by The Game
oh, thanks. that's not really overkill though...

i also just realized how uncomfortable that probably is for King.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:23 pm
by PhoenixAsper
After finally reading this:

1. Oh, that's AWFUL. :(

2. What plans could a supernatural being possibly have that are so important?

AND

3. I think Rick has cheated us. :? I don't think the next strips are going to feature King at ALL, with him being locked in the house.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:00 pm
by Barkeron
Sinder wrote:Back behind bars again, eh Joel?
Ironic, don't you think? Eh. By the way, rick I like how you shorten the words in the last panel, makes it easier and clearer to get to the punch line.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:32 pm
by valerio
PhoenixAsper wrote:After finally reading this:

1. Oh, that's AWFUL. :(

2. What plans could a supernatural being possibly have that are so important?

AND

3. I think Rick has cheated us. :? I don't think the next strips are going to feature King at ALL, with him being locked in the house.
for all we know, we could have Fox spending time with King to keep him company in this moment of dismay...

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:36 pm
by ChewyChewy
I don't think this is going to happen, but wouldn't it be neat if the dogs held the barbecue at his house, so that King could participate? Again, I really doubt that will happen but it'd be very heartwarming if something like it did....

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:49 pm
by IceKitsune
ChewyChewy wrote:I don't think this is going to happen, but wouldn't it be neat if the dogs held the barbecue at his house, so that King could participate? Again, I really doubt that will happen but it'd be very heartwarming if something like it did....
I think that everyone would love to see that. Most likely won't be what happens but that would be very nice to see.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:47 am
by RockstarRaccoon
I can't wait to see what Pete does.
Finally, it looks like we get to see what his intentions are, and why Tarot was so afraid of him.

Edit: I looked back just now, because of all the debate, and I noticed that the full description she gave was (transcribed verbatim)
The power Grape knows as 'Pete' has transmitted a dream to her in order to put her at ease, thinking that his freedom is what she wants
Don't believe it! Pete is neither kind nor good; He is actually sort of a jerk.
Hurry, Peanut! Stop Grape or we're all in grave peril!
Hugs and Kisses, Honey
Then of course, Peanut isn't too bright, so Zack presses the button and releases Pete, after which he has this dramatic entrance where he breaks out of the cave and terrifies everyone who sees him. (they all seem to forget it) Obviously, be it true or not, something has lead Tarot to believe that Pete is not kind or good, or at least, that she should tell people this. Has anyone thought of the possibility that Pete is good and what Tarot is saying isn't true, whether she knows it or not? I'm going to assume that Tarot is not evil, because of the way she's been portrayed, but she's also a strange character who gets most of her info from otherworldly beings, but that doesn't mean she won't lie to further a greater agenda. (I hope I didn't just screw up an entire mega-arc for Rick. Sorry if I did!)

Now, to give an opinion of Pete's actions toward Joel/King, he seems to feel that what he is doing is righteous, despite how little he thinks of Joel/King's desires, or even his rights as a living creature. He seems to think that this is ok, and I'm still divided on this: Joel was a bad person, whether he was bad-hearted or not, and now King is, in fact, learning his lesson.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:01 am
by ReCreate
ctcmjh wrote:
The Game wrote:First of all, i laughed so hard at the last panel.

B) what did the last panel say before?
Image
personally,i liked this one better. :P

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:20 am
by Esquire Fox
Same actually.
The little pause before him proclaiming "I'm such an idiot" just seemed to roll better with me.
Though I'm not complaining about the change.

Whatever the writer is more comfortable with; I second guess myself a lot as well.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:58 pm
by Foxstar
Both seem okey with me, but the revised one is less wordy, which flows better in a four panel strip.

Re: Arc #32: The Dog Days of Summer

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:50 pm
by Dr. Prower
ctcmjh wrote:
The Game wrote:First of all, i laughed so hard at the last panel.

B) what did the last panel say before?
Image
Rick, you should totally put it back the way it was! The last panel got butchered with that omission. Don't get me wrong, it's still good, but the old one above was better.