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Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:58 pm
by Jimmy Jazz
Well, after attempting to write my book for long periods I've realized that there is no way I'm going to be able to write this book. I am not enjoying writing it even a little bit.

So after 2000 words or so... I give up. throws it aside

Maybe I'll think up some other project to do this month.

also please, I don't want to hear any "oh you gave up too soon!"'s, "keep on trying D:<" or ">8o I just lost respect for you!" alright?

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:04 pm
by Senator_Sunburst
Liam wrote:A sci-fi piece's "hardness" is less a matter of the absolute accuracy of the science content than of the rigor and consistency with which the various ideas and possibilities are worked out.

Or take the Banks method. He stuffed his Culture series full with made-up physics (gridfield, etc.), but wrote them internally consistent and evocative of real science to let his fictional universe appear convincing.
I'm not sure I agree with that. There are examples of hard sci-fi that don't involve real science at all (Celestial Matters comes to mind) but those usually are actively set in worlds where the laws of physics are purposely different, or were written back when our knowledge of some aspect of science wasn't as developed as it is now (From the Earth to the Moon for example).

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:07 pm
by Psykeout
Jimmy Jazz wrote:Well, after attempting to write my book for long periods I've realized that there is no way I'm going to be able to write this book. I am not enjoying writing it even a little bit.

So after 2000 words or so... I give up. throws it aside

Maybe I'll think up some other project to do this month.

also please, I don't want to hear any "oh you gave up too soon!"'s, "keep on trying D:<" or ">8o I just lost respect for you!" alright?
hmm. i thought i was going to be the first to drop out. well all right then.

also, hooray! 5,000 words!

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:53 am
by Senator_Sunburst
I am now officially behind.

I'm thinking of changing my goal to just writing 100,000 words generally, instead of on this one particular novel which is currently going nowhere fast.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:43 pm
by MilesKingford
I reached 2000 words (2006 to be more accurate) all in my first writing session, not as much as I would like but its a start...I guess.
Mines a science fiction set 10,000 years in the future, not so much about science fiction but more to do with the society of a colony on the frontier territories of the Human Commonwealth...up to chapter two so far.

@ Senator - exceeding 100,000 words all in a month is a bit ambitious, but you could still achieve it if you really work at it. And if you have writers block try reading, watching, or talking about what relates to your story and you might get ideas and inspiration...what is your story about anyway?

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:15 pm
by Senator_Sunburst
I don't have writer's block. I mean, I know what's supposed to happen. I just don't have enough in-depth knowledge in the required fields to write out these events properly. So I'm having to skip large amounts of stuff just to get it all out on paper, and it's ended with me being almost done with the first 1/3rd of the book at only about 10 thousand words. Considering entire scenes had to be skipped, and large paragraphs of details are missing, it should be a lot longer than that. And I just felt that if I kept going I'd just end up making more work for me in the end when I do figure out the specifics.

As to what it's about, it involves alien viruses and lots of infections, and mass mobilizations of armies, and that's as far as I'll go in saying stuff about it. :P

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:37 pm
by The Game
*cough* 3,000words *cough*

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:09 pm
by Psykeout
oooooohhh today i bombed...

i did half of what i should of done...

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:35 pm
by The Game
4,000 words!
I have a friend that has 6,000 already.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:08 pm
by Psykeout
The Game wrote:4,000 words!
I have a friend that has 6,000 already.
lack parot has like, 6,700. im just under 6,000 i think.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:38 am
by Samson
Well well well what an interesting time to return to the very forums of the very webcomic I write a fanfic about. This shall be fun.
Good luck Rick and thank you for allowing me to stay here with you and your loyal followers.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:12 am
by Dylan
Sadly, I have to give up NaNo, My schedule is too full for me to expect to get it done this month, possibly because staying after school to work on a set for Brighton beach, sometimes staying till 10PM and needing to do homework after that, then getting up early for school is somewhat impossible. But, I like my story enough that I'm going to keep working on it, it just won't be done in time for nano.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:56 pm
by Psykeout
aiiee! writers are crumbling down around me!

that is very demotivational. :(

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:14 pm
by The Game
I a friend that hit 8,000 yesterday.
well actually, now she has....
OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!!

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:21 pm
by Psykeout
The Game wrote:I a friend that hit 8,000 yesterday.
well actually, now she has....
OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!!
GAH! i should have said that!
*has over 9,000*
blargh.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:10 am
by Avan
So... I have about 3000 words to write today (~10600 words done)
I wrote 6000 words in one day, and would have done more, had I not been sidetracked by:
Youtube
TVTropes
art
Furtopia
Housepets!
a potential art-licensing deal (for 3D models I had made)
Requirements of life (eating, breathing, using the restroom)

My NaNoWriMo entry is nothing but the novelized version of my game's plot... because I'm lazy and wanted to get NaNoWriMo /and/ pre-production done with one stone ... err, text :D

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:49 pm
by rickgriffin
Thought I'd keep you updated on my progress guys. Am on track as I usually have been, though as usual not rewriting is probably the hardest thing for me as I discover more relevant plot threads and interesting side passages.

One of the odd things is how, in attempting to explain the world and enumerating the differences, the setting becomes rather sci-fi. For instance, I have always thought, since animals could walk and talk, they tend toward having tribes with their own histories rather than just being features of the natural world. When I moved towards trying to capture the historicity of something much unlike what we'd experience, it becomes otherworldly, and as a result very sci-fi.

And it's strange because Housepets, despite having its own alternate world, is hardly a sci-fi. This is because up until I wrote this, its historicity could be assumed to reflect our own. This is how most setting of this nature are treated--it exists in a world that is not different from our own, withing our perception of this or that historical or contemporary moment, it just has this new element in it.

Except, not only must the new element change the inhabitants' perspective on things, it has an array of consequences all its own which must be accounted for. And while, as per the rule of alternate history, everything mostly lines up with our own world except for certain events which are warped significantly in order to maintain this world's structure around it, there's still quite a lot of potential to play around in the setting.

So when I deviate from the assumption that the Housepets world is exactly the same as our world only everything talks, I at the same time make it less realistic and more realistic. Less realistic because what is real is this world and the farther away I get the less it's a single alteration, and more realistic because the harmony of cause and effect are maintained from this change in a premise.

Of course, I have to fudge things. Lots of things. History, like weather, is chaotic, and a small change here or there may have little consequences, or many enormous lasting consequences. While we can assume that any world like this ought to have turned out completely different, it did not; it retains points of reference with which we are familiar, so as not to alienate the reader. That's the general rule of alternate history.

Anyway, I wrote all of that to say that there is a coherent, technologically capable nation of leopards in the middle of the African jungle. I wrote them in because it would feel less real to me if there was NO lasting establishment of predators that may have resulted from this that or the other, and therefore Housepets is ruined forever because it's now sci-fi.

Or wait. It's still fantasy.

Or something.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:16 pm
by Avan
Heh. XD
But it is interesting to see how history plays out in a world with such a different premise. thus it's entirely believable to have diversions from the RL timeline.
So just out of curiosity, that would be in the current time, right? Just wondering.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:53 pm
by Psykeout
'k guys, this is where i drop out. its to much stress and its interfering with my school, which i will be lucky to live through.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:55 pm
by The Game
Psykeout wrote:'k guys, this is where i drop out. its to much stress and its interfering with my school, which i will be lucky to live through.
Aw! That stinks!
Maybe you could try again next year!
...
7,000 words btw

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:01 pm
by Senator_Sunburst
rickgriffin wrote: Anyway, I wrote all of that to say that there is a coherent, technologically capable nation of leopards in the middle of the African jungle. I wrote them in because it would feel less real to me if there was NO lasting establishment of predators that may have resulted from this that or the other, and therefore Housepets is ruined forever because it's now sci-fi.
I'm so happy.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:01 pm
by Psykeout
The Game wrote:
Psykeout wrote:'k guys, this is where i drop out. its to much stress and its interfering with my school, which i will be lucky to live through.
Aw! That stinks!
Maybe you could try again next year!
...
7,000 words btw
not until im out of high school. my work load is only going to get bigger. -_-'
and how many words do you do a day?

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:19 pm
by The Game
About 500-1,000.
Sometimes more if I work on it at home.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:29 pm
by Psykeout
i dint want to burst your bubble, but here i go. :(
to be "on schedule," you need 1,666-1,667 words a day.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:33 pm
by The Game
Psykeout wrote:i dint want to burst your bubble, but here i go. :(
to be "on schedule," you need 1,666-1,667 words a day.
Oh I know. It's just that the class period I write in has lunch the middle of it, and I lose my train of thought.
But I usually type more then that, or I wouldn't be ahead of most people in my class.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:37 pm
by rickgriffin
Have another preview if you wanted to see: https://www.housepetscomic.com/2010/11/ ... can-nomad/

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:10 pm
by The Game
Today I reached our goal for school (which is 10,000 words) and my climax STILL hasn't happened yet.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:48 am
by Avan
I have 2400 words to do today because I was busy doing a history paper yesterday >.<
Oh well, 2400 isn't much. I can do it all in a couple hours, accounting for minor distractions.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:03 pm
by rickgriffin
I am fairly certain that, no matter how much humor I insert into the rewrite, the novel is going to be Darker and Edgier than the comic is. (Well, maybe as dark and/or edgy as the King story arc)

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:11 pm
by Sleet
That still sounds interesting all the same to me, if the previews are any indicator. If anything it'll help keep Cerebus syndrome in check from the main comic. :3

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:51 pm
by rickgriffin
Well it's what I figure; it gets some of the more heady stories out of the main comic but still integrates them into the universe. And it's all optional! Different formats can be fun!

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:05 pm
by IceKitsune
Sleet wrote:That still sounds interesting all the same to me, if the previews are any indicator. If anything it'll help keep Cerebus syndrome in check from the main comic. :3
Yeah it most likely will keep it in check but I kind of wonder for how long.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:04 pm
by rickgriffin
IceKitsune wrote:
Sleet wrote:That still sounds interesting all the same to me, if the previews are any indicator. If anything it'll help keep Cerebus syndrome in check from the main comic. :3
Yeah it most likely will keep it in check but I kind of wonder for how long.
Well everyone else knows by now that you panic the quickest, even though I have always told everyone that I am going to keep the comic humorous all the time, even when I have the occasional dramatic arc.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:26 pm
by IceKitsune
I'm not panicking about it because that implies that I'm worried about it going in to Cerebus Syndrome which I'm not I actually like it when its done right. Its more like I've read so many web comics before that try to balance it out like that and the drama arcs and story lines usually win out in the end anyway. I'm not saying that the comedy goes away completely of course its just it becomes much less of a focus of the comic.

Maybe I'm wrong this time maybe you can keep the drama from over taking the comedy of the comic I will just have to wait and see.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:53 pm
by Sleet
Isn't that exactly what Cerebus syndrome is?
rickgriffin wrote:I am going to keep the comic humorous all the time, even when I have the occasional dramatic arc.
WHAT ABOUT HOUSE OF A THOUSAND NIGHTMARES RICK.

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:19 pm
by rickgriffin
IceKitsune wrote:I will just have to wait and see.
Except that with that attitude, you'll never be satisfied because there would always be more comic to be fearful will turn superultraserious
Sleet wrote:WHAT ABOUT HOUSE OF A THOUSAND NIGHTMARES RICK.
Funny enough, that was the only dramaish comic I did that did NOT get accusations of cerebus syndrome

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:23 pm
by dalonewolf25
I would like to shout out that you guys should have 13,333 words left by now, or else, you are behind on time. I suggest you manage your schedule more accordingly, however, take thanksgiving as a leeway for catching-up, ok?

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:21 pm
by Avan
Who's finished already? I'm on my last 1600 words - already wrote 2900 earlier today :D

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:59 pm
by dalonewolf25
Need I remind you all that you need to be at 1000 words by today in order to be on schedule...

This looks like fun...all the pressure, the excitement...maybe I'll give it a shot next year!

Re: NaNoWriMo again dudes

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:43 am
by Ebly
rickgriffin wrote:sci-fi housepets words
or you could just say the great kitsune did it

(you know, only 20 days late for the reply)