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That's a really good idea. I'll do that.
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hypernovatic wrote:I've never seen Fight Club, so what do you mean exactly?
spoilers: throughout the movie the focus is mostly on two characters, but at the end they end up being the same character, who has DID (multiple personality disorder)

basically I mean she could think Lydia's a ghost while it's actually an alternate identity of herself, created when she tragically got stuck in a tomb and nearly died, which also caused her claustrophobia.
though this is just a suggestion, I don't expect you to actually take it.
This is good, but I have one question. Would Hazyl be talking to herself when she's supposedly "talking to Lydia" and would she be talking when "Lydia's talking"?
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not sure about talking to each other, but foe speaking for lydia, Housepets! itself has multiple examples of pets being possessed by higher beings, and most ghost myths at least mention possession. She could think that lydia is the type of ghost that hast to do that to interact with the world?

that would allow her to rationalize the otherwise apparent discontinuity between reality and her delusion.
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I edited the CS a bit.
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does anyone have any objections to the updated character sheet?
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well I'm not exactly opposed it but.....how would the others react to Lydia I wonder . I mean they wouldn't just not tell Hazyl right ?
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hypernovatic wrote:This is good, but I have one question. Would Hazyl be talking to herself when she's supposedly "talking to Lydia" and would she be talking when "Lydia's talking"?
From what little I know of multiple personality disorder and schizophrenia, I think Lydia and Hazyl would never interact. Hazyl may well be aware that something takes her over but I don't think she'd have any idea of what it is or what happens while Lydia is in control. To the other pets it would appear that sometimes Hazyl is nice and friendly and sometimes she gets nasty and calls herself Lydia. I think they'd realise fairly quickly that it's a mental illness and not some form of possession though. I think the two would look quite different.
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hypernovatic wrote:This is good, but I have one question. Would Hazyl be talking to herself when she's supposedly "talking to Lydia" and would she be talking when "Lydia's talking"?
From what little I know of multiple personality disorder and schizophrenia, I think Lydia and Hazyl would never interact. Hazyl may well be aware that something takes her over but I don't think she'd have any idea of what it is or what happens while Lydia is in control. To the other pets it would appear that sometimes Hazyl is nice and friendly and sometimes she gets nasty and calls herself Lydia. I think they'd realise fairly quickly that it's a mental illness and not some form of possession though. I think the two would look quite different.
this is fictional DID. the characters in Fight Club interacted for the whole movie/book, even "talking on the phone". so yes, it would look like she's talking to herself, but if she thinks she's a ghost that could be explained away.

as for a difference between possession and DID, I don't think there would be much difference.
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Well, then, I guess it depends on how realistic you want to make this. If she appears to be talkign to herself though then I think it's going to be immediately obvious that something is up.

As to possession... After consideration I think you're probably right, Brent. Both can manifest in a variety of ways after all.
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possession would need a ghost though , and since there's no ghost to be seen , especially by other ghosts , so the others might not be convinced by that
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Yeah, that is true.
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serence ice fox wrote:possession would need a ghost though , and since there's no ghost to be seen , especially by other ghosts , so the others might not be convinced by that
some ghosts can hide themselves if they're skilled enough. I'm pretty sure Hubert isn't always visible to the ghosts. Maybe she's shy and only feels confident enough to talk through a physical body, specifically Hazyl's.
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So, is Hazyl accepted?
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Well, I personally am not objecting, though that's not to say she's accepted as I'm not G.M.

I will however, offer some warning/advice as a fellow roleplayer, and as someone afflicted with the borderline variant of the disorder.

First thing is to make sure you keep a list of everything that triggers the shift of identities. If you lose track of it, it can and very likely will make the character end up rather unstable, which would be counterproductive to the purpose of the trauma repression response.
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Second would be that you're very careful with the identities. Sometimes they will end up not so different in how they respond, which is not particularly a fault of character design. In fact, if the identities have common ground, then she will end up being more comfortable; more stable. This said, being different is part of what makes coping with the trauma easier, so being too alike could end up with the inverse effect.
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Third is definitely to relax if the character ends up bouncing back and forth between the identities when pressured. Stress makes the mind act up, so it's could very easily affect the character somewhat more drastically than one without D.I.D. Not saying that one being present can't happen, but that it's perfectly normal if there's a lot of back and forth between the identities when stressed.
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Most importantly, where she seems particularly complicated as a character, try not to freak out if you end up stumped with the character once in awhile. Ask for ideas on what people think the character might do. Sometimes the ideas from other players help a lot more than might be expected.
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Now, given what I've seen of your play with Lyn thus far? I'm inclined to think you're capable of handling her with a fair bit of grace, and the warnings/advice as a roleplayer may be more overcautious reminders than anything, and the warning/advice given second looks to be completely unnecessary based on the actual profile.



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I'm going to go ahead and accept her then.
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Oh Hazyl's color is this. And Lydia's color is this.
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Perhaps it is only me, but I can barely make out Hazyl's color #008000 from the black text, perhaps if you choose the color below #00BF00, it will be more noticeable?
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... Well, I mean if you have trouble with it, you have trouble with it. I look at it and its so sharp a change it borderlines jarring. It's possible you might want to check that with a professional, but color acuity is possibly one of the lesser things that can be wrong with someone's eyes.

Either that, or we have entirely different ideas of 'barely.'
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or he just has the contrast on his monitor up too high.
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Yup, smart image option sucks... I just checked it on my phone and it's perfectly it's fine...
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This is why I don't trust computers to auto adjust image settings. They just screw everything up.
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If I denied a color choice because it's too close to black I'd be a hypocrite. have you seen Tara's color?
unless that's a screen issue on my part and the difference is a lot more obvious than I can tell.
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Wait that's colored? I never noticed...
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ok that's strange , I can clearly see the 2 colors just fine...........
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well from the hex code it's supposed to be blue. I tend to mistake blues for grays more easily than most people do for some reason. that's probably part of it.
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it could be your screen too , like Moon howler said earlier , because I can see it clearly as blue and green
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no, even IRL i have a hard time with blues, and i can see the green one just fine.
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oh ok
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Is there room for one more?
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You will have to ask brent, but since I am now just staying in one RP (I realized I was stretching to thin). I wont be here anymore civ

as well, if you didn't see it in the main ooc, I wont be in applegate anymore.
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yeah I saw that , sad to see you go Drake , good luck with your studying
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it is sad to go, but I may have draco return someday in a cliché means or some such
like: Draco bursts in, guys I'm...
then everything cuts to black or something.
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heh , yeah perhaps , few free to come back whenever you want , I'll be waiting....yeah that came out creepier than I thought , but still , hope to see ya again Drake ^^
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I'm sorry you have to go, Drake, but RL comes first and foremost and I believe we all understand that.
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Civilization wrote:Is there room for one more?
yeah, we have room for another. Just make a character sheet and post it here for consideration.

and sorry you have to leave, Drake. feel free to come back any time (well, ask first)
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Here I go

Name: Eon
Color: This One
Species: Ferret
Gender: Male
Age: 6 Human, 21 Animal years
Appearance: White fur all over, deep blue eyes, 2' 9" tall. Wears a black collar with a silver tag. Identical twins with Ion.
Personality: Loves the medical field, always either out and about. While not working he tries to be outgoing and friendly, usually with Ion by his side, but if he has work to do he is a complete workaholic.
Background: Worked as a paramedic assistant with Ion, but did not like the city life and decided to quit to move to Applegate to start a new life.

Strength: 3
Perception: 8
Endurance: 3
Charisma: 6
Intelligence: 8
Agility: 8
Luck: 6

Name: Ion
Color: This One
Species: Ferret
Gender: Male
Age: 6 Human, 21 Animal years
Appearance: White fur all over, deep blue eyes, 2' 9" tall. Wears a black collar with a silver tag. Identical twins with Eon.
Personality: Loves the medical field, always stays by Eon's side. He is not as outgoing as Eon but if Eon wants to go Ion will go with him. If Eon is not out and about, Ion will be busy studying medicine.
Background: Worked as a paramedic assistant with Eon, but decided to quit to stay by Eon's side when he wanted to move to Applegate. Consider's Applegate a place to try and do some good.

Strength: 5
Perception: 7
Endurance: 7
Charisma: 4
Intelligence: 10
Agility: 3
Luck: 6

Name: Patrick
Species: Human
Type: Secondary
Gender: Male
Age: 27 Human years
Personality: Loves the medical field and his two ferrets. Enjoys studying medical information with Ion, wants to either be a vet or a doctor. Spends most of his time studying or trying to spoil Ion and Eon, they are the world to him.
Background: Was a paramedic, managed to get his two ferrets to work as assistants for him. He did not much care for the city life and when Eon started to complain he decided to quit his job and move out to Applegate. He gave Ion a chance to stay with someone else but Ion wanted to stay by Eon's side so they all moved out to Applegate.
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These characters look alright personality-wise. however you seem to be doing something a lot of players do when just starting out.

While they are emotionally and somewhat intellectually equivalent to 21 year-olds, they've still only been alive for 6 years. architecture takes a lot of schooling in math and engineering, something a 6 year old couldn't (or rather are unlikely to) have achieved. He would lack customers because he lacks a degree, not just because he's a ferret.

However, surprisingly to me, paramedics don;t need much schooling. Getting a paramedic license could take as little as 6 months according to wikipedia. I'm willing to believe that a 6 year old ferret in Housepets could be a paramedic assistant, so Ion is good as far as I'm concerned.
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Ok, I made both of them paramedic assistants. If there is any other problems I would be happy to fix them.
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does anyone have any objections?

If no one objects in the next 24 hours, you can go ahead and join.
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