Title Text: careful with that fizzy lifting drink king
King is apparently not a very good watchdog
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I didn't mention it in the comic because it would have taken up quite a bit of text to explain it fully and it's not super necessary to understand, but it's like this: in heaven, since there is no pain, you have no need to fulfill any bodily function, you do things effortlessly, and there's no fixed biological or diurnal cycles, you can very easily lose your sense of time. (Fox and King still have mortal bodies, so it affects them a bit different than it does the denizens, but it still applies)Korakc wrote:...how did King not notice 6 months go by...?
Or also in The Odyssey in the island of CirceKorakc wrote:...how did King not notice 6 months go by...?
If anyone has read the Percy Jackson series by Rick Riordan, Heaven seems just like the Lotus Hotel. Think about it.
If they did that then the game would still be going on for them, so it would kind of defeat what Im guessing is a major point of the arc. Which is to get the fighting part of the game over with without showing us much of it.Miles the Wolf wrote:I have to say that I like this version of Fox a lot. He would be great as a K-9. Also, when they come back to Earth they'll probably go back in time to like 4 seconds after they left. PROBLEM SOLVED!
Im with you. Playtime is over frankly. Though if its 6 months already then if what Pete said was true then theres only one month left till the duels over. Pete did say he bring Bailey back in 7 months "on the inside" so if time in Heaven is the same as the time at the duel ground then not all hope is lost. I will say when Bailey finds out what these two have been doin the whole time King is gonna have one heck of a honey-do-list.IceKitsune wrote:I don't know how I feel about this one, I get that distracting him is the whole point so he doesn't interfere in the game (or at least that is what I'm getting here), because having them sit there for six months without dealing with why they brought them there is really really stupid otherwise. Also Foxs complete lack of urgency in this or even remotely caring that he has been there for six months is a bit disturbing regardless of where he is.
Ya, good point.IceKitsune wrote:If they did that then the game would still be going on for them, so it would kind of defeat what Im guessing is a major point of the arc. Which is to get the fighting part of the game over with without showing us much of it.Miles the Wolf wrote:I have to say that I like this version of Fox a lot. He would be great as a K-9. Also, when they come back to Earth they'll probably go back in time to like 4 seconds after they left. PROBLEM SOLVED!
Don't worry, it happens a lot on these forums in my experience. I'm sure people catch up eventually =)rickgriffin wrote:I like how everyone keeps talking past me. Is this what happens when I'm away for two months
Welcome back, Mr. Griffin. We missed you.rickgriffin wrote:I like how everyone keeps talking past me. Is this what happens when I'm away for two months
Sorry Rick. I didnt see you had posted when i posted mine.rickgriffin wrote:I like how everyone keeps talking past me. Is this what happens when I'm away for two months
To put the latter part another way, heaven does not have the "No weird time stuff" rule.rickgriffin wrote:I didn't mention it in the comic because it would have taken up quite a bit of text to explain it fully and it's not super necessary to understand, but it's like this: in heaven, since there is no pain, you have no need to fulfill any bodily function, you do things effortlessly, and there's no fixed biological or diurnal cycles, you can very easily lose your sense of time. (Fox and King still have mortal bodies, so it affects them a bit different than it does the denizens, but it still applies)Korakc wrote:...how did King not notice 6 months go by...?
And what Cerberus said earlier was true, they aren't wasting earth time because time doesn't pass concurrently between heaven and earth.
Perhaps maybe it was the judge at Pete's trial or somethin along that line. Perhaps they suspected Pete of being underhanded so they brought King there for somethin or whatever?CityRedFox wrote:I think they will just "wake up" in the end, like the other times.
But I can't help wondering who invited King to the Haven in the first place?
"The one" seems a little tricky to me. Guess we will have to wait until it's revealed in the future.
Let's just think best case, it'll be good for everyone's mind, including King's.ArcWolf wrote:"A day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day."
So best case scenario, it's been about 12 thousandths of an Earth second.
Worst case? Uh...
Well, a lot of us feel uncomfortable directly asking the author about what's happening. As a whole, we just love to speculate (for better or worse).rickgriffin wrote:I like how everyone keeps talking past me. Is this what happens when I'm away for two months
Not to mention that, sometimes, people post before reading all prior posts and realising someone said exactly the same thing half an hour ago.D-Rock wrote:Well, a lot of us feel uncomfortable directly asking the author about what's happening. As a whole, we just love to speculate (for better or worse).rickgriffin wrote:I like how everyone keeps talking past me. Is this what happens when I'm away for two months
rickgriffin wrote:I didn't mention it in the comic because it would have taken up quite a bit of text to explain it fully and it's not super necessary to understand, but it's like this: in heaven, since there is no pain, you have no need to fulfill any bodily function, you do things effortlessly, and there's no fixed biological or diurnal cycles, you can very easily lose your sense of time. (Fox and King still have mortal bodies, so it affects them a bit different than it does the denizens, but it still applies)Korakc wrote:...how did King not notice 6 months go by...?
And what Cerberus said earlier was true, they aren't wasting earth time because time doesn't pass concurrently between heaven and earth.
Fox, i guess, and this is a stretch, is thinking like a dog me thinks. Consider this, when King found out the wolves were all knocked out with tranq darts at the zoo he was totally mortified, yet Miles took it as no big thing, a learning experience perhaps. King also got the same reaction from Bailey when she ended up being cast aside from her adopted family, and in fact getting her upset with him for his way of thinking. Even Sasha shrugged off the corgi's concern for her abusive life at home, coming up with suck perks as a pile of laundry and stuff. Thats one of the more overlooked but still unique aspects of King. Even as a dog he still possessed a human's bleeding heart for animals. His concern for Bailey's well being is logical in that yes hes married to her but that its his human way of thinking that separates him from Fox, who like the others is a bit more positive i suppose about situations. *shrug.valerio wrote:So when Pete said he'd bring her back in X amount of time, since heaven denizens relate to time in subjective, it may mean that this thing will be over quite sooner than expected. And for all we know, Pete himself may have vouched for that 'full package experience' to atone for the amount of stress he's putting on King -or just to save his lion butt. And, much to the delight of his twisted sense of irony, King is punishing himself over nothing.
I'd too think that Fox is acting in a...strange way, but heck, that runs in the family: Bailey just learnt a weird truth about her husband but that didn't prevent her to get herself on the line to save their marriage. i think that fox really believes that things will get better in the end if heaven is involved
I've been noticing that on the Hp forums more than usual recently, though that may just be me.Welsh Halfwit wrote:Not to mention that, sometimes, people post before reading all prior posts and realising someone said exactly the same thing half an hour ago.
Wolfbane wrote:It's all in the perspective, which is why King is such a fantastic catalyst.
Think of it this way. You tie your dog to a fence to go into the store, but you didn't tie it good enough and your dog wanders off. Now, we can all say that the human is devastated and panicked, but there's two ways to look at this through the dog's eyes.
Since we really don't know much about what makes it tick, we can assume the dog thinks it's just another part of the walk, or it could have just wanted to elope.
Additionally, the dog could be concerned after they've left about how to get back to free meals and love, but if it had prioritized that it'd be running back to the human's front door, or better yet it wouldn't have left at all. It's complicated, but seemingly simple at the same time.
Apply this random logic to the pets of babylon gardens and things become a bit clearer. They have much larger brains and they can talk/walk upright, but they're still pets at the end of the day. They don't really ask for special rights, and they feel right at home when... Erm, home. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back again.
Specifically for Fox, he's a dog. Dogs bounce back.
... Heck, I don't even believe Bailey is mad at him. A bit miffed, but mostly fine. She did this for him after all, I don't think she was expecting a heroic movie-style defy the rules rescue. She was probably initially depressed about it (obviously) but she seems alright with her current situation... Or rather, her situation *insert number of months here* ago. This arc up to this point has as much weight as King's dramatic stress... Like spending your vacation week on a cruise realizing and moaping over the fact it's still your money's schedule and not yours.
Speaking of which, it's not like King completely prefers his dog body though, it comes with a different mindset and lifestyle altogether. We see here he's not at that point yet, but just for the moment he was in heaven... He was pseudo-coorgi. I understand what he's going through, not the heaven or cosmic D&D/saving your wife part, but the overall feeling you lack substinance in your day to day life.
Dogs usually wander off because they either hear something, smell something, or see something they want to investigate. They usually don't return back home most likely because they get lost. There are many stories of pets ending up back at home after wandering off after a while. Or waiting for dead/missing owners for years ect.Wolfbane wrote:It's all in the perspective, which is why King is such a fantastic catalyst.
Think of it this way. You tie your dog to a fence to go into the store, but you didn't tie it good enough and your dog wanders off. Now, we can all say that the human is devastated and panicked, but there's two ways to look at this through the dog's eyes.
Since we really don't know much about what makes it tick, we can assume the dog thinks it's just another part of the walk, or it could have just wanted to elope.
Additionally, the dog could be concerned after they've left about how to get back to free meals and love, but if it had prioritized that it'd be running back to the human's front door, or better yet it wouldn't have left at all. It's complicated, but seemingly simple at the same time.
Apply this random logic to the pets of babylon gardens and things become a bit clearer. They have much larger brains and they can talk/walk upright, but they're still pets at the end of the day. They don't really ask for special rights, and they feel right at home when... Erm, home. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back again.
Specifically for Fox, he's a dog. Dogs bounce back.
... Heck, I don't even believe Bailey is mad at him. A bit miffed, but mostly fine. She did this for him after all, I don't think she was expecting a heroic movie-style defy the rules rescue. She was probably initially depressed about it (obviously) but she seems alright with her current situation... Or rather, her situation *insert number of months here* ago. This arc up to this point has as much weight as King's dramatic stress... Like spending your vacation week on a cruise realizing and moaping over the fact it's still your money's schedule and not yours.
Speaking of which, it's not like King completely prefers his dog body though, it comes with a different mindset and lifestyle altogether. We see here he's not at that point yet, but just for the moment he was in heaven... He was pseudo-coorgi. I understand what he's going through, not the heaven or cosmic D&D/saving your wife part, but the overall feeling you lack substinance in your day to day life.
Heh, I was gonna say. Imagine the goings-on if 6 earth months had come and gone, like, Fido seeing Fox with a strange man before he goes missing. The dog-napper is at it again!rickgriffin wrote:I didn't mention it in the comic because it would have taken up quite a bit of text to explain it fully and it's not super necessary to understand, but it's like this: in heaven, since there is no pain, you have no need to fulfill any bodily function, you do things effortlessly, and there's no fixed biological or diurnal cycles, you can very easily lose your sense of time. (Fox and King still have mortal bodies, so it affects them a bit different than it does the denizens, but it still applies)Korakc wrote:...how did King not notice 6 months go by...?
And what Cerberus said earlier was true, they aren't wasting earth time because time doesn't pass concurrently between heaven and earth.
High Five to those who actually saw Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief (or read the book)!Roarin wrote:High five to the people who know The Lotus Hotel stole my line... :p
And I approve of green husky girl ^_^