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Well, I guess it's not much news for me. I figured something would happen some day. Hutch replied.
That, or the fact that her new nursing home doesn't allow pets. Christopher remarked.
Nursing home? Hutch slid the jacket over himself as he said this. What happened?
Hutch didn't catch the last bit the nurse said.
Time is a real pain. That, and several years of service for the CIA. she replied.
Alice! You can't just say that in front of everyone!
Time is a real pain?
No! "You used to work for the CIA."
Why not? It was my favorite job!
The 2 argued with each other for a short time.
Christopher took a seat in the kennel next to Hutch. Alice just remained standing. When Alice noticed Christopher had sat down, she lightly swatted Hutch on the head.
You get Christopher a seat!
I've got to sit down, Alice!
Really, it's fine, I'm comfortable. Christopher stood to his feet.
Fine. I just don't see why you should have to sit uncomfortably on the ground...
I'm comfortable, Mrs. Alice... Christopher replied.
Anyways, I was just thinking. This was a fake job, right? Hutch asked.
Yeah. We needed you out of the house for a month. Alice replied.
Hutch had a look of horror on his face.
Y-you mean I'm not getting paid? Hutch asked shakily.
Why does it matter? Alice asked.
Roo told me last night that we were broke! I've got nothing in the bank? He asked.
Oh, right. We had to transfer your account to mine for legal reasons. You've still got everything. Christopher replied.
Hutch let out a sigh of relief.
Thank God! I hate having less than $100 in the bank. Hutch said.
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Roo finally found her way to the clinic. She opened the door to the clinic, walked in, then rang the bell on the desk.

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Paul is still next to Nadia so he hears every word of the conversation. "Not necessarily, Nadia. It could just be that the lady feels she cant give the proper care to Hutch any more or that they weren't able to get along for some reason - there are any number of reasons for a change of ownership. But you shouldn't be whispering about people in front of them. It's rather rude in human and pet society - I'm not sure how it is in the wild though." he cautions the fox and skunk quietly enough that the humans two cages over can't hear.

"There's that too , I guess , and I know it's rude , that's why I whispered so they wouldn't hear" Nadia answered , glancing at the other humans "beside , it doesn't seem like they noticed"

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Koa continues to fidget with Powder's ears, and smiles. "Silly brother...I have nothing important to talk about..." Koa then stop what he is doing and stares at Flynn. "Unless there's something you want to talk about."

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Piper laughs. "Lady Piper? I'm not exactly lady-like!" Her face falls for a moment. Maybe that's why Lucky doesn't seem interested in me... she thinks. But, being Piper, she doesn't stay glum for long. "Make yourselves comfortable in the loungeroom and I'll grab the gear." Piper limps off toward her room and fishes the ukulele out of her wardrobe, collects some basic level sheet music from a folder in her desk, and then, tucking the music under one arm and a music stand under the other, picks up her guitar in one paw and the ukulele in the other, limps out to the lounge to where the others are waiting, trying not to let the stand swing and dent her guitar.


"Let me help you with that," said Lucky. He hurried over and took the ukulele. "Need any other help?"

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Koa continues to fidget with Powder's ears, and smiles. "Silly brother...I have nothing important to talk about..." Koa then stop what he is doing and stares at Flynn. "Unless there's something you want to talk about."

Chip looked up from the piece of garlic Bread she was eating. "Koa, my friend," she said, "you may have noticed that having nothing to say? never stops the rest of us." She winked at him.

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"Us talking of course. Life's full of irrelevant chat. More fun that way." Chip turned towards him and Elliot as she chomped on the bread. "You could always tell of how you and Powder got together. That could be interesting?"

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Stryder quietly watched everything that happened with Chip, Flynn, and Blick, not quite sure what to do.

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Oreo ponders a moment..
Also, what is neutering??

"neutering is er.....*cough* it's what humans do to you so you can't have kits , ever" Nadia whispered back

Oh.. That sounds a lot like the procedure Samantha was telling me i needed to keep my hormones in check, so i don't ever whelp kits like a female..
Oreo runs that through his mind, as Nadia and Paul talk about Hutch..
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"As for him being sold off , I don't think that's the case , but even if it is , he doesn't seem to mind , so either his last owner was a pretty bad one , no surprise if they really sold him , or he's a weakling , in which case it's already too late for him . Also, let me tell you this , being sold off is not the worst thing humans can do to a pet who goes against their wishes , so if he's being sold off , he's still lucky"

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Paul is still next to Nadia so he hears every word of the conversation. "Not necessarily, Nadia. It could just be that the lady feels she cant give the proper care to Hutch any more or that they weren't able to get along for some reason - there are any number of reasons for a change of ownership. "

So.. I.. can't.. ever.. have.. kits..
Oreo's eyes spring wide open in the shock of realization!
YOUR GOING TO NEUTER, ME!!!
No! I wouldn't have ever agreed to go along with that! Is'n being de-scented enough for you all!?
Where is my owner? i wanna see him before you do that to me...

Oreo falls down onto his bottom and just starts quietly bawling... tears rolling off his cheeks..

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"No." Joan admits. "Flynn is my first pet. My parents never let me have one growing up. John and I acquired Flynn while we were still dating, shortly before we got engaged. Is it that obvious?" She ponders for a moment, debating the wisdom of what she's about to say.

I suppose rabbits don't cause much trouble, except in march... when there as mad as a march hare.
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"I think I've done alright with Flynn though. I think he's turned out OK. I hope I can do as well with my baby." She waits for the impact of those words to sink in.

Well congratulations, when are you do to whelp?

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Senka noted the location in her mind. Maybe she'd make a stop by there before she returned to Kandi's farm.

When Kandi spoke to Joan about being the "alpha" of the pet family Senka couldn't help but smirk, an image of the human trying to grapple with the lioness popped into her head.

At the mention of Joan's pregnancy the cougar echoed Kandi's congratulations with her own.
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"Thanks. Could you take this music stand too, please?" Once Lucky obliges, Piper follows, limping into the living room. Setting up the stand, she sits her folder on it and then looks at Lucky. "How shall we do this? Do you know how to read music? Should I teach you that way, or just to play by ear?"

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Flynn agrees with Chip. "Yeah, chatting makes life fun. You could also tell us about yourself. We hardly know you yet."

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Joan breaks into a smile. "Thanks. I'm a little way off yet - I'm only at seven weeks, I think. John and Flynn don't know yet - I wanted to be sure before I told them - so just keep it between us for now, yeah?"

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Paul quickly enters the skunk's cage, casting an annoyed look at Nadia, and tries to put his arm around the small animal.
"Hey, easy there. It's gonna be OK. No need for all that. It's not the end of the world. Lots of pets have had this exact same procedure and they're no worse for wear, and many of them are skunks too."
Samantha, hearing the commotion and guessing what has happened, excuses herself from her patient and his owners and picks up the cordless phone from its cradle, and after a quick search of the records, dials Mr. Nordic's number.
"Hi, Mr. Nordic? It's Samantha Walton here from the vets... Fine, thank you... I think Oreo has just realised what we're planning to do in the morning and he's not too happy about it? Would you like to have a talk to him, see if you can calm him down? ... Thanks. I'll put you on speaker for him." She presses the speaker button and passes the phone in to Paul.
"Here you go, Oreo. Your owner's on the phone to talk to you. He's on speaker so all you have to do is talk." says Paul, holding out the phone.

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Sandy is just about to pick up the x-rays to finish his job when the bell rings again. He rolls his eye skyward for a moment, placing the radiographs back on the bench and heads out to find a dog in the lobby, similar to the one admitted earlier.
"Hi. How can I help you?" he asks, putting on a bright façade.

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"Mmmmm, I think you should go easy on them. I know you booby trapped the boxes before we sent them here."

Elliot giggles.

"Oh fine, I'll take it easy for now. I wouldn't enjoy playing with them as much with this pesky injury at hand."

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"Welcome back, handsome," Chip said, poking her head out of a hollowed-out slice of Garlic bread. "Oh, so you know Fausty, I've just been for a wash-swim in the sink."

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Joan breaks into a smile. "Thanks. I'm a little way off yet - I'm only at seven weeks, I think. John and Flynn don't know yet - I wanted to be sure before I told them - so just keep it between us for now, yeah?"
So, you going in to the hospital for an ultra-sound, before you tell them?
Kandi gets a wiry grin..
Or do i need to get my long gloves and check on it Livestock style?

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Paul quickly enters the skunk's cage, casting an annoyed look at Nadia, and tries to put his arm around the small animal.

Oreo cuddles up against his side, just wanting to be held right now, even if it is by the man who is going to alter him.
the thought of spraying him never entering his mind, despite the stress and threat he is under.
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"Hey, easy there. It's gonna be OK. No need for all that. It's not the end of the world. Lots of pets have had this exact same procedure and they're no worse for wear, and many of them are skunks too."
Samantha, hearing the commotion and guessing what has happened, excuses herself from her patient and his owners and picks up the cordless phone from its cradle, and after a quick search of the records, dials Mr. Nordic's number.
"Hi, Mr. Nordic? It's Samantha Walton here from the vets... Fine, thank you... I think Oreo has just realized what we're planning to do in the morning and he's not too happy about it? Would you like to have a talk to him, see if you can calm him down? ... Thanks. I'll put you on speaker for him."

He has? Oh that's just great! how did that happen?
After he waits for the explanation
Hey Oreo, what's wrong little buddy?
There g-going to n-n-neuter me! I wont have kits ever!
An your upset about this?
Well, yes!! How will i ever get to mate if that happens!!
Wait wait! Your only upset about being neutered? Not that your going to be de-skunked as well?
You aught to just leave that stinky beast there.
Please Cleo, They assure me that after his operation, he will not have the ability to spray. An in a week or so will smell no worse than any other pet might. I'm sure you two will get along better afterwards. He tries so hard now to please you, wearing those diapers an all. Sorry about that.
Oreo facepaws! an buries his head into Paul's chest in embarrassment.
Well, I Ummm. I understand why i should be de-scented.
An your Ok with that??
people will like me better, and not be afraid of me, after that is done.
So it's just the neuter.. So tell me, who are you going to mate with? From my understanding, there are no other skunks or compatible species in town for you to sire kits with.
Ummm, well.. there might be some day.
An there might not. then what are you going to do? You can't go out into the woods looking for a feral skunk to mate with. You have already agreed to and are fine with giving up your natural defenses to be a pet, remember?
So you would be defenseless out on the woods.
Also i told that if you go out into the forest, you will get lost. An you wouldn't find your way back, because skunks have no natural homing ability.

Oreo clings closer to Paul..
but still... I wont get to mate ever if you let this happen.
Oreo, the truth is. there is no one in town you can mate with, an quite likely never will be. So unless you can come up with someone. I'm sorry, the neuter is going to happen.
But but.. whiiiiiinee
Oreo looks hopefully over at Nadia..

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Radar scowled slightly at Lucky as he jumped to help Piper the split second before she did. So instead she sat down and crossed her arms, sending the odd disapproving glance to Lucky.

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Koa first looked at chip. "That ones easy mother bought her for me. though she worried I might chew on her." Koa then thought for a quick second. "There's not much to know about me. I create herbal remedies with my herbs, write, and I play the cello."

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"Cello, eh? Sounds like we're building a band here." Chip smiles genuinely at the information before looking at the hollowed out bread around her. "I've penned meself!"

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"Band? What kind of band? Death metal?" Blick almost got out that last part without laughing, but she couldn't hold it back. Now she's laughing so hard, tears are coming to her eyes.

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you aught to just leave that stinky beast there.

Hutch let out a silent growl at "Cloe".
The 2 continue to converse, while Hutch stays in silence, until...
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Oreo, the truth is. There is no one in town you can mate with, and quite likely never will be. So unless you can come up with someone. I'm sorry, the neuter is going to happen.
But But... whiiine

Well. I guess it depends on what he's interested in. Hutch commented.
What do you mean by that? Christopher asked.
Well, does he like other skunks? Or does he like to date out of species? Hutch asked.
And is he into girls, or... In any case, his owner is right. What are you really going to use them for, if you can't find anyone compatible?
That didn't stop you from using them.
Actually, I just got into a mating program. But, it is really expensive. Somewhere out there, I have a son. I just don't know him. Hutch replied.
Hey, Oreo. Hutch beckoned the skunk to him.
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"I see."

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"So, did we miss anything?"

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Oreo clings closer to Paul..
but still... I wont get to mate ever if you let this happen.
Oreo, the truth is. there is no one in town you can mate with, an quite likely never will be. So unless you can come up with someone. I'm sorry, the neuter is going to happen.
But but.. whiiiiiinee
Oreo looks hopefully over at Nadia..

".....Oreo ? Would you mind if I speak to your owner for a bit ?" Nadia asked , after a few moments of thinking

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"Oh, nothing much. Just general chit-chat." Flynn answers. "Do you grow all our own herbs, Koa? I'm sure Mum and Dad would let you have a corner of the garden if you asked. We've heaps of room."

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Paul thinks of something else, having heard Oreo singing earlier. "Another thing that this procedure will do, Oreo, is that it'll allow you to keep your nice singing voice. If we don't do it and your hormones run their natural course then your voice will get deeper and rougher and you might not be able to sing as well. Also, you will still be able to mate after this, it just won't be productive, is all." Paul raise an eyebrow at Nadia, hoping she'll take his and Mr. Nordic's side.

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Joan pretends to consider for a moment. "Hmm, no, I think I'll go to the hospital, if it's all the same to you." she laughs. "I think you're pretty safe after the first twelve weeks, usually, aren't you? I'll probably tell them then. Oh, I'm so nervous and excited about this all at the same time!"

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"I do but unfortunately the vets called the cops about my packages, so I cant grow them. And cellos don't play in bands they are orchestral instruments."

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Paul thinks of something else, having heard Oreo singing earlier. "Another thing that this procedure will do, Oreo, is that it'll allow you to keep your nice singing voice. If we don't do it and your hormones run their natural course then your voice will get deeper and rougher and you might not be able to sing as well. Also, you will still be able to mate after this, it just won't be productive, is all." Paul raise an eyebrow at Nadia, hoping she'll take his and Mr. Nordic's side.

"huh....." Nadia thought for a second , then look back at Oreo , ignoring Paul at this point because apparently Oreo freaking out from realizing the consequence of their action is entirely her fault "well Oreo , if you somehow , for some reason , agree to that , keeping your singing voice in exchange for.....that , then never mind , but if you still don't change your mind , then I still would like to have a talk with your owner , if you want , it's up to you" she said , emphasized on the "it's up to you" part a little bit , hinting her side in this toward a certain human

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"I actually know how to read sheet music," explained Lucky, "I read a book on it." He lifted up his oversized ears, "But given the size of these, I might be good at playing things by ear."

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Oreo, the truth is. There is no one in town you can mate with, and quite likely never will be. So unless you can come up with someone. I'm sorry, the neuter is going to happen.
But But... whiiine


Well. I guess it depends on what he's interested in. Hutch commented.
What do you mean by that? Christopher asked.
Well, does he like other skunks? Or does he like to date out of species? Hutch asked.
And is he into girls, or... In any case, his owner is right. What are you really going to use them for, if you can't find anyone compatible?
Hey, Oreo. Hutch beckoned the skunk to him.

Oreo climbs up onto Paul, to sit in Vet's lap, facing Hutch's side of the cage..
Arn't you busy with your own owner issues?
Huh? what was that Oreo?
The collie Hutch, on one side of my cage. He was just told that he has a new owner, that he is just meeting with for the first time right now.. But wants to bark with me about something..
Oh.. Sounds like a lot of things are going on out there.
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".....Oreo ? Would you mind if I speak to your owner for a bit ?" Nadia asked , after a few moments of thinking

Oreo turns his head about, from the advantage point of being in Paul's comforting lap.. to look over at Nadia.
Hmmm? No.. i guess not.
An who is that?
That is the female fox, Nadia. Who is in the cage on the other side of mine from the collie.
Another feral? Just how many pets are out there with you?
Just these two now. There was two other dogs and a wolf. But they all got to go home.
A wolf? I wish i got to see that! Your having quite the adventure out there.
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Paul thinks of something else, having heard Oreo singing earlier. "Another thing that this procedure will do, Oreo, is that it'll allow you to keep your nice singing voice. If we don't do it and your hormones run their natural course then your voice will get deeper and rougher and you might not be able to sing as well."

Mr. Nordic wonders if a pets voice, does indeed change when they mature.
He is right about that. You know i respect you enough to not make you sing for your dinner. But if you want to sing, this will help you keep your great singing voice.
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Also, you will still be able to mate after this, it just won't be productive, is all." Paul raise an eyebrow at Nadia, hoping she'll take his and Mr. Nordic's side.

Oreo looks up into the Vet's eyes trying to judge the truth of that statement.
I want to believe you, I really do. But with the way things have gone so far. I get this feeling i wont be able to, once i'm neutered. An why would i even want to try, if i wont ever be able to sire kits?

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Paul raise an eyebrow at Nadia, hoping she'll take his and Mr. Nordic's side.

"huh....." Nadia thought for a second , then look back at Oreo , ignoring Paul at this point because apparently Oreo freaking out from realizing the consequence of their action is entirely her fault "well Oreo , if you somehow , for some reason , agree to that , keeping your singing voice in exchange for.....that , then never mind , but if you still don't change your mind , then I still would like to have a talk with your owner , if you want , it's up to you" she said , emphasized on the "it's up to you" part a little bit , hinting her side in this toward a certain human

Sure go ahead if you want.. I need to find out what Hutch wants..
Hello there, Nadia was it? You wanted to talk to me? Are you wishing to volunteer to be Oreo's mate?

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Sure go ahead if you want.. I need to find out what Hutch wants..
Hello there, Nadia was it? You wanted to talk to me? Are you wishing to volunteer to be Oreo's mate?

"Greetings sir" Nadia chuckled , a little bit sinisterly "As wonderful as that may sounds , I'm not . I do , however , wish for you to stop Oreo's neutering , because there's no need for that . And since I've accidentally eavesdropped on your conversation with him just now , sorry about that , I wish to express my opinion on the matter as well . And since I know we both want what we think is the best for Oreo , I really wish you would hear me out before reaching the final decision." she said , stopping for a few seconds so that the human could ready himself

"First of all , yes , up until this very moment , I myself have not encountered any female skunks in this town , with that said I've only been here for a few days , and can't possibly know all the pets in town , unlike Mr.Walton here , who has his own pet list , and surely have told you that there is indeed , no pet skunk in town , at this very moment . But here's the thing , sir , that's it , that's all we know . None of us can even be 100% sure of what will happen tomorrow , let alone in the further future . There is nothing stopping another family , with another skunk pet , moving into town , or even a feral wandering in , searching for a home and wishes to become a pet , in fact , the latter scenario already happened . And according to Mr.Walton here , he's done many de-scent procedure before , leading toward a rather high possibility that there were skunks here , many of them . So as much as I hate to say someone's wrong , sir , what you said to Oreo just now , "there is no one in town that you can mate , and quite likely never will be" , is wrong . There's just as much of a chance that he'll find a mate someday as there is of he wouldn't , if not more , given that this is a pet-friendly community and near a forest . Oreo isn't the first skunk here , and he won't be the last."

"Second , again I'm not trying to criticize you for stating your reason , but sir , you're asking , a very young kit , having spent a large amount of his pet life socializing with no one else but you and your lover , so much that his definition of "going outside" is being allowed to go from his pet house to your car , to come up with a potential mate right here and now , without any chance to find one , a task that is , literally , impossible , even for humans . Oreo told me that today is his first day of ever meeting other pets , because today he got to go outside of his house , but given how much freedom in moving around he as given before coming here , I'm not even sure if he was allowed to go out on your permission , or he just accidentally got out during the moving-in commotion . I brought this up not to say anything about you , but because this is something I wish for you to take into consideration . Like I've mentioned , Oreo is very young , and curious , given the fact that he doesn't get out much , his first thought while going through the neighborhood wouldn't be "ok now where would all the female skunks gather around so I can find them and mate" , it would be more of something along the line of "wow this is amazing , oh I've never seen this before" and all that . In short , there's no reason , and therefore no way Oreo would've anticipated this kind of demand would ever come up and looking for a female of his kind , even if there were one out there , just so that he could answer this kind of question you're asking him.
Now getting back to what I've said about this being impossible even for humans , I'm sure you , being a man with a lover who's now staying under the same roof with you , know much better than I am how precious love is , and how hard it is to come by . Now humans is an amazing species when it comes to socializing . You have telephones , internet , ways that allow you to communicate with thousands upon thousands of other people within the matter of seconds , even people that you've never met before , and trains ,cars , planes so you could meet these people in person within hours , or worst case scenario , a few days , the possibilities of choosing your own mate are endless . And yet , there're still many people out there who can't seem to find one for their own ,sometimes even for their whole life . And that brings up another point I wanna make . Let me ask you something sir , before meeting the one that you're now deeply in love with , what were you doing ? Were you actively searching for a female of your own kind , just so that you could have a girlfriend ? Were you just woke up one morning and decided "I wanna have a girlfriend today" , then run outside , randomly saw her , and decided that you two will become a couple ? Or were you and her began as two normal people knowing each other , as friends , neighbors , business partners , or just acquaintances , before coming closer and closer through the time you spent , the conversation you had , the joys and sorrows you shared together and eventually become what you're to each other now ? and how long did it take for that to happen ? weeks ? days ? or months , or even years ? What I'm trying to say here , sir , is that even in the best case scenario , it takes time for anyone , skunks or humans , to search for a suitable mate . And Oreo is not even in that best case scenario , so you can't use that kind of impossible demand to prove a point , no matter how seemingly reasonable that point might be , unless you yourself can successfully find a mate of your own on your first day , after spending half of your current life time being socially isolated."
the fox said , sighing and facepawing at the same time , knowing she might have been a little bit overaggressive , but still , there's one more point she needed to let out , after taking a deep breath to calm herself down that is.

"Third and finally , even though I'm taking the risk of being proven wrong right after saying this , I still need to say it regardless . I do not think having him neutered is necessary at all . Specifically , I can't see why it is a bad thing to leave him with the ability to reproduce , I mean everything a creature is born with is there for a reason , if it is bad for that living creature itself then why would it be there right ? This doesn't have anything to do with whether he would be able to find a mate or not , I mean like I've pointed out just now , many humans can't find their mate , so......are they forced to have the same thing be done to them like what's going to happen to Oreo ? No ! Of course not ! Because there will always be a chance that in the future , they will finally find their other half . The same thing could be said to Oreo here . Can you imagine one day , he finally found the right one , only to be prevented from ever having that complete happiness by the fact that he'd lost the ability to reproduce ? Can you imagine how he would feel then ? Even in human society , losing something like that is considered a great embarrassment , if not shame , because that's one of the things all living beings are meant to do , even plants . Without that ability , your beloved Oreo would not even exist . Even if I place him in a scenario where meeting a female skunk is a really slim chance , that would only increase in importance of keeping him from being neutered because of how rare that opportunity of having a family of his own comes by . And I don't think I even need to tell you the kind of joy people seem to get when a new child of theirs is born . Don't take that away from him for no real reason , you saved his life , so please , don't ruin it . I understand why he needed to be de-scented , because it would cause discomfort to others and to himself , but what kind of issues could this one cause to anyone ?"

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"Merc," Chip asked after pushing her way out from the bread and climbing to Elliot's shoulder, "do you do portraits?

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In the darkened silo, a series of pulleys and levers enabled one mouse to close the silo door as the last of a group sent to reclaim their spears trotted in and assembled before their commander.

"You shouldn't have done that," said a small voice, rushing to keep up with the eyepatched Mouse as he assessed his troops. "I could've managed to convince that kitten to go, I'm sure.
"Funny," the other replied, turning to look at his 'equal' with contempt that screwed up his facial scars, "it looked more like he was coming in! Let one think it's welcome here and more will come. We'll lose this home same as we did the park."
"But... Scratch, all that will happen now is that more of them WILL come! You've shown they can be hurt. It means they'll send hunters. Hunters, Scratch!"
"I've dealt with hunters before, Kilo, and I can face them again. The traps laid in here can protect us and so can my army," he added, gesturing to the fifty spear-wielding mice in front of them. "Although I suppose it might be an idea to split our people for safety sake. You can take the other women and the youngsters to safety for a few days and the Males will set up ready for the bigs reply."
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Scratch sighed. "Oh get lost, Kilo. Go run and hide. Come back when all the fighting's done. As you always do."

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"Greetings sir" Nadia chuckled , a little bit sinisterly "As wonderful as that may sounds , I'm not . I do , however , wish for you to stop Oreo's neutering , because there's no need for that . And since I've accidentally eavesdropped on your conversation with him just now , sorry about that , I wish to express my opinion on the matter as well . And since I know we both want what we think is the best for Oreo , I really wish you would hear me out before reaching the final decision." she said , stopping for a few seconds so that the human could ready himself.

So i take it, your the one who has alerted, and upset Oreo over what was planned for him. (Sigh) You might as well have your crack at me. I've already had Paul, Animal control, and the City office of pet welfare, counselor. All telling me everything i have done wrong so far, and what i need to do.

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There is nothing stopping another family , with another skunk pet , moving into town , or even a feral wandering in , searching for a home and wishes to become a pet , in fact , the latter scenario already happened . And according to Mr.Walton here , he's done many de-scent procedure before."

I don't think that is very likely. Animal control didn't want to give Oreo back to me at all. They wanted to relocate him back out into the forest, ship him to the Zoo, or if there wasn't room there put him down. It took a lot of lobbing with the Pet counselor, to get Oreo back, instead of him being put down.

Gorge laughs a bit over the phone.. You should ask Doctor Walton to tell the story, about when they had to alter and de-scent the Zoo skunks, an how badly that turned out for them! Which is why we didn't want Oreo getting wind of what was going to happen to him.


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"Second , again I'm not trying to criticize you for stating your reason , but sir , you're asking , a very young kit , having spent a large amount of his pet life socializing with no one else but you and your lover , so much that his definition of "going outside" is being allowed to go from his pet house to your car , to come up with a potential mate right here and now , without any chance to find one , a task that is , literally , impossible" the fox said , sighing and facepawing at the same time , knowing she might have been a little bit overaggressive , but still , there's one more point she needed to let out , after taking a deep breath to calm herself down that is.

According to City records, and Animal control reports. There are no other skunk pets anywhere near by. An the local feral population consists mostly of Raccoons, Opossums, Deer, and a few Foxes. There have been no reports of skunks among the ferals, given the fact i imported Oreo from outside of this area.

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"Third and finally , even though I'm taking the risk of being proven wrong right after saying this , I still need to say it regardless . I do not think having him neutered is necessary at all . Specifically , I can't see why it is a bad thing to leave him with the ability to reproduce I mean like I've pointed out just now , many humans can't find their mate , so......are they forced to have the same thing be done to them like what's going to happen to Oreo ? Even if I place him in a scenario where meeting a female skunk is a really slim chance , that would only increase in importance of keeping him from being neutered because of how rare that opportunity of having a family of his own comes by . And I don't think I even need to tell you the kind of joy people seem to get when a new child of theirs is born . Don't take that away from him for no real reason , you saved his life , so please , don't ruin it . I understand why he needed to be de-scented , because it would cause discomfort to others and to himself , but what kind of issues could this one cause to anyone ?"

The question is, Do i want to risk leave him a stud skunk. Having his personality changing, becoming dominate and getting into fights? On the off chance, that one day we might find a compatible mate for him to have kits with. I'm told spotted skunks are very common, so there is no risk to the species if he is unsexed.
Then there is one thing you haven't mentioned, the financial responsibility an owner has. There is the cost of food, shelter, medical care, insurance liability, Licensing, entertainment for each pet you own. If or when Oreo has kits, I'll be responsible for them as well along with the females owner, if there is one. This could quickly get beyond my ability to pay to care for them all. I can't just raise his kits feral style, trying my best and hope most of them survive. I would be held responsible for the welfare of each and every kits survival and well being.
This may sound harsh and cruel, but if i don't believe i have the resources to support him having kits. Then i need to control his ability to have them with the neutering.
Do you see the position i'm in, Miss Nadia?

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The cat looks up at chip, "Yeah I do portraits, want one?" He chuckled, pulling more materials out of his bag

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The cat looks up at chip, "Yeah I do portraits, want one?" He chuckled, pulling more materials out of his bag

"Only if I don't have to pay," Chip replied, angling what she thought was her best side.

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Hey, Oreo. Hutch whispered to the skunk.
It's very loud. Hutch smiles at the skunk as he pointed out the obvious.
I know, for me, getting a new owner is nearly impossible, because of my past, and what I was accused of. Hutch said.
I truly had the intent on leaving Alice once I realized that I like it here. If Christopher gives me the chance to stay, then I will. He said.
I know it's none of my business... but why would you want kits? Hutch asked.
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I'll wait 'til Hutch is done freaking out. Roo said, then walked back to the waiting room.

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Elliot covers his maw and giggles.

"Money's not an issue Chip."

Elliot pulls out a coin pouch.

"How much?"

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"Alwaes fun, Unkle Leroy," Leslie said, trotting happily after the Human.

Leroy chuckles A little. "Thought you might say that.." He says with a smirk. "Ah, I have an idea.. Wait here a second.."

Leroy ambles into his study for a few seconds, returning with a large stack of cardboard boxes with pictures and titles on them, the top one saying 'Map of England Jigsaw' as he lays the pile on the floor.

"This.." He says, gesturing to the pile. "Is a little collection of board games and puzzles for when the power cuts out or something.. I was thinking we play some of these instead of having the TV on so we don't disturb Aron and Vera.." Leroy shifts the pile closer to his chair with the side of his foot, then sits down. "You have first pick. I think the best one's are at the bottom.."


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