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Teh Brawler
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 Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11
This is really why I write fanfics. It helps me practice writing, and I enjoy it. Also, Two_Twig, I was referring to our little "discussion" in the poll thread.
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Esquire Fox
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:48 pm Posts: 483 Location: Bork, Bork, Bork! (Sweden)
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Woah, hold up. By drawing Fanart I break copyright laws? I'd better start parodying instead then  . Grape can be Lemon cause she's often sour about everything,And peanut can be...
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Mon May 03, 2010 7:34 pm |
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machchunk
Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 370
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Buckdida Wrote:
Nah, most fanfiction is copyright infringement, because most fanfiction is not written as parody, just badly written, and then they use fair use after the fact to cover their behinds.
The point of fair use is for people to express opinion without fear of being censored by the author. For example:
1. Reviews (this is the big one for fair use) 2. Classroom use (for teaching) 3. Parody 4. Research
In addition, such stuff under fair use really shouldn't benefit the person who created it under fair use. The intent of the person matters too. They can say it's parody, but unless it is evident that it clearly is, it's really not.
When a person writes a fanfiction, they mainly do it for (as so the comic says) their own indulgences. People often write fanfiction based on what they want to happen, and forget the canon. That's not really making fun of something to provide your own commentary or humor. Parody, honestly, is more supposed to protect political cartoonists (and the occasional good flash movie).
So. Most fanfiction, or fanart for that matter, would be considered copyright infringement, and are not protected by fair use. However, in reality, not only would it take a team of people to keep all of it down, it would be bad publicity for the author, and many authors can actually find such things flattering...depending on the person's intent, of course.
So fanfiction gets on by, unless the author finds it and really hates it for reasons of his/her own. Good thing, too, because there actually are good fanfics that really stand out. Like Sinder and Dean's stuff. And Twiggy's stuff. And for others, it can be good practice and a venue for feedback and criticism for improving.
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metaecho
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 1:09 am Posts: 147 Location: Fonduistan
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 Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11
so fanart isnt a good thing? aw... there goes my "grape in OZ" idea... <silly spoiler, black-out is for sensors.
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Buckdida
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:59 am Posts: 2350 Location: Richardson Valley
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 Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11
Depends on what you're drawing, really. If you're drawing or writing something that would anger the creator of the original content, you can bet it's going down. However, there can also be plenty of fanart that is awesome and that the author likes and finds flattering or cool, cute, or funny. It really depends on the author in question. ___________ Anyway, what about Marvin's reaction in the first panel? Is that commentary on the state of newspapers? A lot of them are going out of business these days, or switching to online reporting, as far as I know.
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ChewyChewy
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:23 pm Posts: 5460
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Heh, I just took it that they're pets, and you know how pets regard newspapers....  Of course, that's just my hypothesis....
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Sleet
Bringing Foxy Back
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:32 am Posts: 16943 Location: Nephelokokkygia
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 Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11
Speaking of newspapers, is the headline a reference or is it just something silly? If it is a reference, could anyone please explain it?
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Tue May 04, 2010 8:02 pm |
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Buckdida
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:59 am Posts: 2350 Location: Richardson Valley
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 Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11
Both. As for the reference, I don't want to...explain the joke. You're never supposed to explain the joke. Muuuhahahaha.
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Tue May 04, 2010 8:24 pm |
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Sleet
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But you want to keep all your blood, yes? Then please explain the joke. *puppy eyes*
A ruined joke is just as bad as an un-gotten joke.
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Tue May 04, 2010 8:36 pm |
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FlintTheSquirrel
Joined: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:30 pm Posts: 2374 Location: Sweden/North Carolina
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But at the same time, it ruins it for the people who do understand it, not that I do or anything. But when it comes to his expression towards the newspaper, I just take it that Tiger don't read much if at all, and it sure is a weird thing to start back by reading a newspaper.
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Sleet
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But those who get it already laughed! It doesn't retroactively remove the humor from your experience.
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Tue May 04, 2010 8:55 pm |
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FlintTheSquirrel
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True enough..... Buckdida, tell us the truth, stop hiding your secrets from us! D:
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Flamboyant-Pencil
Joined: Sat May 02, 2009 4:37 pm Posts: 437 Location: USA
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There's spoiler tags for a reason Buck >8c
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Tue May 04, 2010 9:28 pm |
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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm Posts: 8631 Images: 0
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[Don't Explain the Joke].
Interestingly, I had an interview today that stressed newspaper writing skills. "I know you can edit video and do all this other broadcasting stuff. I know you can write broadcast style. Those matter less than being able to write in print style."
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rickgriffin
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Okay okay, guys, It's a reference to Foxtrot; whenever Amend has a newspaper in his comic the headline will be "Cartoonist [does something prestigious, not necessarily related to cartooning]"
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Sleet
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Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:32 am Posts: 16943 Location: Nephelokokkygia
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Huh. I did not know that, and I really like Foxtrot.
...Wait, now Tiger and Friends are referencing Foxtrot too? Will the madness never end?!
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ReCreate
Joined: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:09 pm Posts: 1415 Location: http://bordomirc.co.cc
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Sinder
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:48 pm Posts: 1729 Location: The Internet
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 Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11
he's named killbody because he's dead now
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IceKitsune
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Posts: 4720 Location: Ohio
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Actually I think its a parody of Peabody from Rocky and Bullwinkle Edit: You know what its both
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ChewyChewy
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:23 pm Posts: 5460
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Wait...is this a one-off...? It doesn't say.... (EDIT: Never mind....) And I'm guessing that guy falling and screaming in the background is Killbody from three seconds in the future.... Take that, "Doc" Emmet L. Brown! 
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Sleet
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The last panel reminds me of way back when in the Pokémon cartoon where there was Sabrina's dad and he always teleported everyone else several feet above the ground. Also, does it count as murder/suicide if your past self is still intact to become your current self? Especially if the butterfly effect leads you to not kill yourself in the past again? Mo' like Deadbody. Mo' like ka-boom course.
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ChewyChewy
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For the last time, Killbody, it's "Diagon Alley," not "Diagonally"!  (Sorry, had to throw that in there....  )
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Devil Skirrl
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm Posts: 8631 Images: 0
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 Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11
At least this villain was courteous enough to eliminate himself. Also, self-correcting time paradoxes are the best time paradoxes.
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valerio
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I Need BLANK for TRANSLATION!
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Buckdida
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:59 am Posts: 2350 Location: Richardson Valley
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Poor fellow was interrupted by a fish slap that sent him to the moon. Oh well~ PHYSICS! Kids, make sure you understand your basic time-space theory and quantum mechanics before building your own backyard time machine! Remember kids, preparation is half the safety, and a welding mask and thick gloves are the other! Also a bomb shelter in case your nuclear core messes up. And when first testing your machine, be sure to send in a willing test monkey Who's signed all the necessary release forms before trying it for fun yourself! You don't want to be like Doctor Killbody, do you? *drops trout* ...Uh, where did that come from?
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Would anyone else like to see more characterization for the Spot (Superdog) character "The Cyborg?"
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Foldo
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I work on that... 
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GameCobra
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Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:27 am Posts: 6190 Location: Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
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Spot's universe is more green than ever now!
And Physics aren't so scary...
*walks into time machine* *...looks at the forums*
...Who is griffinrick?
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Kyderra
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hang on i just woke up...
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Wed May 05, 2010 5:52 am |
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valerio
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Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 6:53 am Posts: 18897 Location: Italy
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by now you should be able to do that in your sleep, with a hand tied to the ceiling and ants crawling up your legs 
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Kyderra
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actually , I made a automated script kinda like that of Rick's where it just auto generates all the panels with the press of a button.
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Wed May 05, 2010 6:07 am |
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valerio
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Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 6:53 am Posts: 18897 Location: Italy
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I forgot to tell you! If possible, blank out ONLY what's in the baloons, since I don't have the tools for any 'special effect' in the rest of the comic. Thank you!
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Liam
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:25 pm Posts: 1756 Location: BMW-topia
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Silly Doctor, don't you know you need five more people to operate it properly?
*worries that the ref's too obscure*
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Dylan
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Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:31 am Posts: 2275 Location: Austin, Texas
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GAH! Don't people know that going back in time is impossible! You can only go forward in time!
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Wed May 05, 2010 7:45 am |
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valerio
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Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 6:53 am Posts: 18897 Location: Italy
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Tell that to SPOT (Professor/Superdog): it takes spinning!
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Dylan
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Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:31 am Posts: 2275 Location: Austin, Texas
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Maybe he spins so fast that he opens a wormhole and he somehow reverses a wormholes normal spin for "past"
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GameCobra
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If you don't spin fast enough, you can't control it.
clearly spot knows his stuff. you don't mess with the earth, the king of spin! since it spinned so fast it was three seconds ahead of where he fell!
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valerio
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Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 6:53 am Posts: 18897 Location: Italy
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all this stuff is making my head spinning. I'm starting to think retro. 
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Liam
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:25 pm Posts: 1756 Location: BMW-topia
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Spot spins so fast that his mass increases exponentially, thus bringing local spacetime to rotate itself and creating a Gödel metric which enables him to travel back in time via a closed timelike curve.IT'S SCIENCE!
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Kyderra
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I have a theory is that it's physical possible to trip over your own foot if you run around your house table at the speed of light.
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