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Author:  GeckoZY [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code Tea

First of all,
Code:
Q EWCTL TQSM BW EMTKWUM ITT WN GWC BW BPM KQXPMZ KINM. Q PWXM BPIB EM EQTT PIDM TWBA WN NCV QV BPQA BPZMIL. FL


General Guidelines/Information on Drinking Code Tea

Please follow the forum rules.
Everyone may post, solve and discuss puzzles in this thread.
When posting puzzles, use the code tags to enclose the puzzle(if possible).
When solving puzzles, quote the original puzzle/problem and enclose your answer in the code tags(if possible).
You may give hints or clues on your puzzles at any time; preferably quote the original puzzle.
If your puzzle is left unsolved for more than a week, please post the solution. Unless if they still want to attempt solving it.
If someone attempts to answer your puzzle, check their answer/solution by saying CORRECT or wrong.
Multiple puzzles may be open for solving at any time.
When correcting puzzles, please add the word 'Corrections:' then link/add the corrections to the original post.
There aren't any limits in the type of puzzles used, like text, images, etc. Just try to avoid overly complicated or impossible puzzles.
These guidelines will be helpful when having multiple puzzles at a time. :)


Sample Tea Conversation

Banoffee:
I have a cipher for you
Code:
OUU
MTG

*discussions on puzzle*

PieLover314:
Banoffee Wrote:
Code:
OUU
MTG
Is this correct?
Code:
COOLER

Banoffee:
PieLover314 Wrote:
Code:
COOLER
Sorry it's wrong.

*more discussions on puzzle*

Gamer2178:
Banoffee Wrote:
Code:
OUU
MTG
Is this right?
Code:
BANANA

Banoffee:
Gamer2178 Wrote:
Code:
BANANA
Yes! It's CORRECT!



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Still baking them XD


Ever Expanding Menu

#Product = $tatus
#1GeckoZY = $mathgrant
#2mathgrant = $GeckoZY
#3mathgrant = $GeckoZY
#4GeckoZY = $mathgrant
#5GeckoZY = Unsold
#6GeckoZY = $mathgrant
#7ChewyChewy = Unsold


PM me on any suggestions or corrections.
And last, but not the least, Enjoy!!

Author:  Render [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Oh, it is finally done. :D The CiferCafe opened it's doors! Reserve me a slice of your Riddlecake for tomorrow when I start to solve your starter. Image

Author:  GeckoZY [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

I'll start baking more ciphers cakes. I hope that you'll like the appetizer. :D

Author:  mathgrant [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

http://scottbryce.com/cryptograms/

Code:
I would like to welcome all of you to the cipher cafe. I hope that you will have lots of fun in this thread. XD


Hey, in the National Puzzlers' League, you'd have to put an asterisk before each instance of Q to indicate that it's a letter that's capitalized due to being a proper noun, a proper adjective, or the like. This means that McMurry might appear as *ND*NVSSZ. I also think you'd have to mark *F*L as "not MW", because it's not an entry in Merriam-Webster's. The National Puzzlers' League has standards to keep things fair for the solver; it's good to know that a cryptogram is stumping you because it's hard and not because it contains made-up things that aren't in the dictionary.

As an example of how these work, here's a cryptogram I submitted to the National Puzzlers' League a few months ago. Prove to me that furries aren't all dumb, and solve it! :)

Code:
Happy players. (*CODE *EABFG, *OBOFGOKD, *EBB = not MW)
*CODE *EABFG CFDHIC JBKGD LMNG CFDPG EBFA *OBOFGOKD, QPLBOL KEMPRBCA CFMRR: "*EBB-CGSS EABSG TDQ EDPI."

Author:  RandomGeekNamedBrent [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

mathgrant Wrote:
Prove to me that furries aren't all dumb, and solve it! :)

hey, that's no fair. If they don't solve it it's cause they're people, not cause they're furries.

plus, we aren't dumb, just not as clever as you

Author:  GeckoZY [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

mathgrant Wrote:
Code:
I would like to welcome all of you to the cipher cafe. I hope that you will have lots of fun in this thread. XD
Yes, that is correct. It was meant to be as simple as possible.

mathgrant Wrote:
Hey, in the National Puzzlers' League, you'd have to put an asterisk before each instance of Q to indicate that it's a letter that's capitalized due to being a proper noun, a proper adjective, or the like. This means that McMurry might appear as *ND*NVSSZ. I also think you'd have to mark *F*L as "not MW", because it's not an entry in Merriam-Webster's. The National Puzzlers' League has standards to keep things fair for the solver; it's good to know that a cryptogram is stumping you because it's hard and not because it contains made-up things that aren't in the dictionary.
Although fairness is important in this 'game', we're not really aiming to have a perfect, international grade 'game'. We're just a bunch of people, randomly sending each other ciphers and codes while playing MvM (we were requested to make a separate thread for this, instead of doing it in MvM); and nothing close to a guild of code-makers and code-breakers. They are good suggestions, but I think it would be best to leave it to the code-maker whether they want to follow those conventions or not.

mathgrant Wrote:
http://scottbryce.com/cryptograms/
And, your link over there doesn't even use the conventions. XD

mathgrant Wrote:
Prove to me that furries aren't all dumb, and solve it! :)
That's quite an unfair generalization. Solving it doesn't imply anything of my level of intelligence, nor does it imply anybody else's level of intelligence. It's like telling someone that by default, all Texans love Nintendo just because one of them loves it or all Americans are members of NPL just because of of them is.

mathgrant Wrote:
Code:
Happy players. (*CODE *EABFG, *OBOFGOKD, *EBB = not MW)
*CODE *EABFG CFDHIC JBKGD LMNG CFDPG EBFA *OBOFGOKD, QPLBOL KEMPRBCA CFMRR: "*EBB-CGSS EABSG TDQ EDPI."


Answer?
Code:
SNOW WHITE STOCKS VIDEO GAME STORE WITH NINTENDO, URGING DWARFISH STAFF: "WII-SELL WHILE YOU WORK."
I hated that dash over there, seems to make it a wee bit more confusing. XD
And, thanks for the cipher and your suggestions! :P

Author:  Dissension [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Just on a random note, mathgrant makes logic puzzles professionally. He even has a cleverly-titled logic puzzle blog.

Author:  Render [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

So there is nothing to solve at the moment... OK, I'll just lean back and enjoy the riddlecake and the cup of code tea.

Author:  mathgrant [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

GeckoZY Wrote:
Code:
SNOW WHITE STOCKS VIDEO GAME STORE WITH NINTENDO, URGING DWARFISH STAFF: "WII-SELL WHILE YOU WORK."


Congratulations! Despite my best attempts not to leave in any obvious break-ins like the words "a" and "I", you have persevered and deciphered the stupid pun. :3

Also, sorry for the comments about the intelligence of furries; after having my butt kicked at Dr. Mario by a furry/pegasister, I think I have all the proof I'll ever need that there are some really smart people in the furry community, as there are in any community. :p

Regarding the comments about National Puzzlers' League standards for crypts, they are admittedly not very well adhered to outside that community, but that's because it's not common practice to devise phrases that are purposefully hard to decipher (by avoiding common break-ins). The hardest cryptograms consist entirely of words which are the same length! O_O I provided that link to the Scott Bryce cryptograms page not because it adheres to these standards, but because it's a really convenient way to solve cryptograms (just copy and paste into the box). In any event, that puzzle would have been harder to solve had you not known to expect non-dictionary-certified proper nouns like Nintendo and Wii. :)

Next, you guys will be the guinea pigs for a cryptogram I just wrote. Nobody in the puzzle community has test-solved it yet. [Edit: ralphmerridew solved it in 13 minutes.]

Code:
Sound reasoning.
AZYI XWVUPAVRU NQOMZLNT SL SPINAL TAPXR NMNYUAVY PQOMVKVNAR UZ JZAI, OZRVUVHX, "UGNRN XZ UZ MNPFNH."

Author:  GeckoZY [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

mathgrant Wrote:
Code:
Sound reasoning.
AZYI XWVUPAVRU NQOMZLNT SL SPINAL TAPXR NMNYUAVY PQOMVKVNAR UZ JZAI, OZRVUVHX, "UGNRN XZ UZ MNPFNH."


Is it
Code:
ROCK GUITARIST EMPLOYED BY BAKERY DRAGS ELECTRIC AMPLIFIERS TO WORK, POSITING, "THESE GO TO LEAVEN."



Puzzle:
A rotation in this puzzle is a 45 degree turn clockwise or counter-clockwise of a link.
Ring 1 (innermost) is fixed.
Labels 1, 2, 3, 4 shows the links in their rotation. Rotating 'link 1', rotates both ring 2 and ring 3. EDIT: Rotating 'link 2' rotates ring 3 and ring 5.
1 (r2,r3) , 2 (r3,r5), 4 (r2,r5) are linked rotations. 3 (r3) is a un-linked rotation.
Solve with the least number of 45 degree turns.
Use this convention, '2++' rotate link 2 by 90 degrees CW and '4-' rotate link 4 by 45 degrees CCW.

Image
Correction: I have posted the wrong image. The image has been updated.

Enjoy!! :P

Author:  mathgrant [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

GeckoZY Wrote:
Code:
ROCK GUITARIST EMPLOYED BY BAKERY DRAGS ELECTRIC AMPLIFIERS TO WORK, POSITING, "THESE GO TO LEAVEN."


Yep! Did my hiding SPINAL TAP in the ciphertext help? :)

I'm glad to be spreading the joy of wordplay somewhere. X3

Author:  GeckoZY [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

mathgrant Wrote:
GeckoZY Wrote:
Code:
ROCK GUITARIST EMPLOYED BY BAKERY DRAGS ELECTRIC AMPLIFIERS TO WORK, POSITING, "THESE GO TO LEAVEN."


Yep! Did my hiding SPINAL TAP in the ciphertext help? :)

I'm glad to be spreading the joy of wordplay somewhere. X3

I've only noticed Spinal. :o
Hidden messages in ciphers? Sounds a lot like the Inception.

Author:  mathgrant [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Let's give link 1 k clockwise rotations, link 2 l clockwise rotations, link 3 m clockwise rotations, and link 4 n clockwise rotations. Then ring 2 will have been rotated k+n times, ring 3 k+l+n times, ring 4 l+m+n times, and ring 5 l+n times. Since these rings need 3, 6, 1, and 5 clockwise rotations, respectively, to fix the picture, we have this system of equations in modulo 8:

k+n=3
k+l+n=6
l+m+n=1
l+n=5

Solving, we get k=1 l=3 m=4 n=2. By your notation, this would be 1+ 2+++ 3++++ 4++?

Author:  GeckoZY [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

mathgrant Wrote:
Let's give link 1 k clockwise rotations, link 2 l clockwise rotations, link 3 m clockwise rotations, and link 4 n clockwise rotations. Then ring 2 will have been rotated k+n times, ring 3 k+l+n times, ring 4 l+m+n times, and ring 5 l+n times. Since these rings need 3, 6, 1, and 5 clockwise rotations, respectively, to fix the picture, we have this system of equations in modulo 8:

k+n=3
k+l+n=6
l+m+n=1
l+n=5

Solving, we get k=1 l=3 m=4 n=2. By your notation, this would be 1+ 2+++ 3++++ 4++?

I think I should have made it a little bit clearer. The links only connects two rings, not all the rings that intersect the lines. Sorry about that. It would have been correct if it was how you've interpreted it.
I think you can easily do, it's much simpler that this. XD

Author:  mathgrant [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Let's try this again.

k+n=3
k+l=6
m=1
l+n=5

(k,l,m,n)=(2,4,1,1) or (6,0,1,5). The first one would be represented by 1++ 2++++ 3+ 4+, and the second would be 1-- 3+ 4---. The second one uses fewer 45-degree turns.

Author:  GeckoZY [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

mathgrant Wrote:
Let's try this again.

k+n=3
k+l=6
m=1
l+n=5

(k,l,m,n)=(2,4,1,1) or (6,0,1,5). The first one would be represented by 1++ 2++++ 3+ 4+, and the second would be 1-- 3+ 4---. The second one uses fewer 45-degree turns.

Yes, that's correct. XD

Image
The file was a bit too big to be uploaded. XD

Author:  GeckoZY [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

I have two new code desserts!! :D
A Code Dessert for you, for You! And, For All of You!

Code#5
Code:
ELFLHD XMVJCWW XPRXI DWQCCX YMOFKIT AMROLBO PLABQX CI VMMCC CL KLIMKCIBRO WCGCPVLCX.


Code#6
Code:
YZFD NLM DFDV GVKCC LFEDVKHB Q NMBC AMZHGKGN LR TMFTDVX QX Q BVLMP? SCOO, SC CKC. KG QFVKFDE GYFCD YLMFW OQGC. XYLMOE NQRC LVCCFCC PKAQQX KYWGCZE.


Have fun!! :twisted:
Sorry for the double post, I've asked permission.

EDIT:
Clue: qwerty keyboards

Author:  mathgrant [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

GeckoZY Wrote:
Code:
YZFD NLM DFDV GVKCC LFEDVKHB Q NMBC AMZHGKGN LR TMFTDVX QX Q BVLMP? SCOO, SC CKC. KG QFVKFDE GYFCD YLMFW OQGC. XYLMOE NQRC LVCCFCC PKAQQX KYWGCZE.

EDIT:
Clue: qwerty keyboards


Code:
have  you ever tried ordering a huge quantity of burgers as a group? well, we  did. it arrived three hours late. should have ordered pizzas instead.


The clue helped. The switch from simple substitution cipher to a not-so-simple one (each letter can represent one of two other letters) was jarring and threw a huge wrench in the works.

Author:  GeckoZY [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

mathgrant Wrote:
Code:
have  you ever tried ordering a huge quantity of burgers as a group? well, we  did. it arrived three hours late. should have ordered pizzas instead.


The clue helped. The switch from simple substitution cipher to a not-so-simple one (each letter can represent one of two other letters) was jarring and threw a huge wrench in the works.

Yes, that's correct. XD

Initially, I was wondering whether 'qwerty keyboards' would be a pretty useless clue. It seems helpful for this case.

Author:  Render [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Since days I am fighting with the no 5. It drives me nuts. Whatever I try, the result is always gibberish :|

I think the clue is also valid for this one, right?

Author:  GeckoZY [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Yes, it's the same clue for both. :)

Author:  ChewyChewy [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Here's a riddle:

"Celsius boils water right after sunrise, with five minutes of thunder."

Can you decipher it?

Author:  mathgrant [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Ugh. The hint "qwerty keyboards" gets me nowhere in that other cipher. VMMCC doesn't look promising for a one-to-one cipher; COOEE fits, but leaves everything else looking like crap. I also know it's not a Playfair cipher because VMMCC CL can't arise from that.

For ChewyChewy, some theories: Celsius boils water = 100 degrees? 5 minutes of thunder equals 60 miles (http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-the-Distance-from-Lightning)?

Author:  ChewyChewy [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

mathgrant Wrote:
For ChewyChewy, some theories: Celsius boils water = 100 degrees? 5 minutes of thunder equals 60 miles (http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-the-Distance-from-Lightning)?


You're right so far. ;) Now put it together and guess the whole thing. (like "right after sunrise".)

Author:  Hlaoroo [ Tue May 14, 2013 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Has anybody else ever deciphered the ciphers at the bottom of each page of the Artemis Fowl books?

Code:
18 21 2 12 6 24 26 13 8 12 15 5 22 7 19 18 8 11 6 1 1 15 22

18' 15 15 25 22 5 22 9 2 18 14 11 9 22 8 8 22 23 25 22 24 26

6 8 22 18' 5 22 7 9 18 22 23 7 12 14 26 16 22 18 7 9 22 26 15

15 2 23 18 21 21 18 24 15 7 21 12 9 2 12 6 25 2 9 22 14 12 5

18 13 20 26 15 15 7 19 22 8 11 26 24 22 8 21 9 12 14 7 19 18

8 9 26 7 19 22 9 15 12 13 20 8 22 13 7 22 13 24 22.


I've left in the apostrophes to make this a little easier for you.
Also, the lines breaks are just so there's not one long line of text on the page. They may or may not correspond with spaces between the words. Good luck solving this one! ;)
HINT: The puzzle half explains itself.

Author:  yehoshua [ Wed May 15, 2013 8:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

I don't suppose the numbers correspond to positions in the alphabet, I started out getting RUBLEFX (rubble effects? x3)

Author:  Hlaoroo [ Wed May 15, 2013 8:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

It's not RUBLEFX, I'll tell you that much. Each number is a different letter - it's up to you to determine the sequence, and once you start to fill in some of the letters you'll probably get the pattern pretty easily.

Author:  lasthunter [ Fri May 17, 2013 9:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

hehehe.....silly bunny i read those books and deciphered them.....and the 39 clues books.... :P

Author:  Hlaoroo [ Sun May 26, 2013 11:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code

Here's another hint: 18=I

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