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The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code Tea
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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 The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code Tea
First of all, General Guidelines/Information on Drinking Code TeaPlease follow the forum rules. Everyone may post, solve and discuss puzzles in this thread. When posting puzzles, use the code tags to enclose the puzzle(if possible). When solving puzzles, quote the original puzzle/problem and enclose your answer in the code tags(if possible). You may give hints or clues on your puzzles at any time; preferably quote the original puzzle. If your puzzle is left unsolved for more than a week, please post the solution. Unless if they still want to attempt solving it. If someone attempts to answer your puzzle, check their answer/solution by saying CORRECT or wrong. Multiple puzzles may be open for solving at any time. When correcting puzzles, please add the word 'Corrections:' then link/add the corrections to the original post. There aren't any limits in the type of puzzles used, like text, images, etc. Just try to avoid overly complicated or impossible puzzles. These guidelines will be helpful when having multiple puzzles at a time. Sample Tea ConversationBanoffee:I have a cipher for you *discussions on puzzle*PieLover314:Is this correct? Banoffee:Sorry it's wrong. *more discussions on puzzle*Gamer2178:Is this right? Banoffee:Yes! It's CORRECT!BannerStill baking them XD Ever Expanding Menu#Product = $tatus #1GeckoZY = $mathgrant#2mathgrant = $GeckoZY#3mathgrant = $GeckoZY#4GeckoZY = $mathgrant#5GeckoZY = Unsold #6GeckoZY = $mathgrant#7ChewyChewy = Unsold PM me on any suggestions or corrections.And last, but not the least, Enjoy!!
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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Render
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:14 pm Posts: 89 Location: Germany, Europe, Terra
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Oh, it is finally done.  The CiferCafe opened it's doors! Reserve me a slice of your Riddlecake for tomorrow when I start to solve your starter. 
_________________ If life gives you lemons, ask for salt and tequila.
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
I'll start baking more ciphers cakes. I hope that you'll like the appetizer. 
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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| Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:36 pm |
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mathgrant
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:37 pm Posts: 471 Location: Abilene TX
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
http://scottbryce.com/cryptograms/Hey, in the National Puzzlers' League, you'd have to put an asterisk before each instance of Q to indicate that it's a letter that's capitalized due to being a proper noun, a proper adjective, or the like. This means that McMurry might appear as *ND*NVSSZ. I also think you'd have to mark *F*L as "not MW", because it's not an entry in Merriam-Webster's. The National Puzzlers' League has standards to keep things fair for the solver; it's good to know that a cryptogram is stumping you because it's hard and not because it contains made-up things that aren't in the dictionary. As an example of how these work, here's a cryptogram I submitted to the National Puzzlers' League a few months ago. Prove to me that furries aren't all dumb, and solve it! 
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RandomGeekNamedBrent
laughing maniacally
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:42 pm Posts: 14819 Location: an invisible, flying volcano over Virginia
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
hey, that's no fair. If they don't solve it it's cause they're people, not cause they're furries. plus, we aren't dumb, just not as clever as you
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Yes, that is correct. It was meant to be as simple as possible. Although fairness is important in this 'game', we're not really aiming to have a perfect, international grade 'game'. We're just a bunch of people, randomly sending each other ciphers and codes while playing MvM (we were requested to make a separate thread for this, instead of doing it in MvM); and nothing close to a guild of code-makers and code-breakers. They are good suggestions, but I think it would be best to leave it to the code-maker whether they want to follow those conventions or not. And, your link over there doesn't even use the conventions. XD That's quite an unfair generalization. Solving it doesn't imply anything of my level of intelligence, nor does it imply anybody else's level of intelligence. It's like telling someone that by default, all Texans love Nintendo just because one of them loves it or all Americans are members of NPL just because of of them is. Answer? I hated that dash over there, seems to make it a wee bit more confusing. XD And, thanks for the cipher and your suggestions! 
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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Dissension
Totally Not Rick
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm Posts: 6994 Location: On Your Mind
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Just on a random note, mathgrant makes logic puzzles professionally. He even has a cleverly-titled logic puzzle blog.
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Render
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:14 pm Posts: 89 Location: Germany, Europe, Terra
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
So there is nothing to solve at the moment... OK, I'll just lean back and enjoy the riddlecake and the cup of code tea.
_________________ If life gives you lemons, ask for salt and tequila.
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| Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:57 am |
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mathgrant
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:37 pm Posts: 471 Location: Abilene TX
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Congratulations! Despite my best attempts not to leave in any obvious break-ins like the words "a" and "I", you have persevered and deciphered the stupid pun. :3 Also, sorry for the comments about the intelligence of furries; after having my butt kicked at Dr. Mario by a furry/pegasister, I think I have all the proof I'll ever need that there are some really smart people in the furry community, as there are in any community. :p Regarding the comments about National Puzzlers' League standards for crypts, they are admittedly not very well adhered to outside that community, but that's because it's not common practice to devise phrases that are purposefully hard to decipher (by avoiding common break-ins). The hardest cryptograms consist entirely of words which are the same length! O_O I provided that link to the Scott Bryce cryptograms page not because it adheres to these standards, but because it's a really convenient way to solve cryptograms (just copy and paste into the box). In any event, that puzzle would have been harder to solve had you not known to expect non-dictionary-certified proper nouns like Nintendo and Wii.  Next, you guys will be the guinea pigs for a cryptogram I just wrote. Nobody in the puzzle community has test-solved it yet. [Edit: ralphmerridew solved it in 13 minutes.]
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Is it Puzzle: A rotation in this puzzle is a 45 degree turn clockwise or counter-clockwise of a link. Ring 1 (innermost) is fixed. Labels 1, 2, 3, 4 shows the links in their rotation. Rotating 'link 1', rotates both ring 2 and ring 3. EDIT: Rotating 'link 2' rotates ring 3 and ring 5. 1 (r2,r3) , 2 (r3,r5), 4 (r2,r5) are linked rotations. 3 (r3) is a un-linked rotation. Solve with the least number of 45 degree turns. Use this convention, '2++' rotate link 2 by 90 degrees CW and '4-' rotate link 4 by 45 degrees CCW.  Correction: I have posted the wrong image. The image has been updated. Enjoy!! 
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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mathgrant
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:37 pm Posts: 471 Location: Abilene TX
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Yep! Did my hiding SPINAL TAP in the ciphertext help?  I'm glad to be spreading the joy of wordplay somewhere. X3
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
I've only noticed Spinal.  Hidden messages in ciphers? Sounds a lot like the Inception.
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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mathgrant
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:37 pm Posts: 471 Location: Abilene TX
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Let's give link 1 k clockwise rotations, link 2 l clockwise rotations, link 3 m clockwise rotations, and link 4 n clockwise rotations. Then ring 2 will have been rotated k+n times, ring 3 k+l+n times, ring 4 l+m+n times, and ring 5 l+n times. Since these rings need 3, 6, 1, and 5 clockwise rotations, respectively, to fix the picture, we have this system of equations in modulo 8:
k+n=3 k+l+n=6 l+m+n=1 l+n=5
Solving, we get k=1 l=3 m=4 n=2. By your notation, this would be 1+ 2+++ 3++++ 4++?
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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 |  |  |  | mathgrant wrote: Let's give link 1 k clockwise rotations, link 2 l clockwise rotations, link 3 m clockwise rotations, and link 4 n clockwise rotations. Then ring 2 will have been rotated k+n times, ring 3 k+l+n times, ring 4 l+m+n times, and ring 5 l+n times. Since these rings need 3, 6, 1, and 5 clockwise rotations, respectively, to fix the picture, we have this system of equations in modulo 8:
k+n=3 k+l+n=6 l+m+n=1 l+n=5
Solving, we get k=1 l=3 m=4 n=2. By your notation, this would be 1+ 2+++ 3++++ 4++? |  |  |  |  |
I think I should have made it a little bit clearer. The links only connects two rings, not all the rings that intersect the lines. Sorry about that. It would have been correct if it was how you've interpreted it. I think you can easily do, it's much simpler that this. XD
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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mathgrant
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:37 pm Posts: 471 Location: Abilene TX
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Let's try this again.
k+n=3 k+l=6 m=1 l+n=5
(k,l,m,n)=(2,4,1,1) or (6,0,1,5). The first one would be represented by 1++ 2++++ 3+ 4+, and the second would be 1-- 3+ 4---. The second one uses fewer 45-degree turns.
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
 |  |  |  | mathgrant wrote: Let's try this again.
k+n=3 k+l=6 m=1 l+n=5
(k,l,m,n)=(2,4,1,1) or (6,0,1,5). The first one would be represented by 1++ 2++++ 3+ 4+, and the second would be 1-- 3+ 4---. The second one uses fewer 45-degree turns. |  |  |  |  |
Yes, that's correct. XD The file was a bit too big to be uploaded. XD
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
I have two new code desserts!!  A Code Dessert for you, for You! And, For All of You! Code#5 Code#6 Have fun!! Sorry for the double post, I've asked permission.EDIT: Clue: qwerty keyboards
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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mathgrant
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:37 pm Posts: 471 Location: Abilene TX
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
The clue helped. The switch from simple substitution cipher to a not-so-simple one (each letter can represent one of two other letters) was jarring and threw a huge wrench in the works.
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Yes, that's correct. XD Initially, I was wondering whether 'qwerty keyboards' would be a pretty useless clue. It seems helpful for this case.
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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Render
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:14 pm Posts: 89 Location: Germany, Europe, Terra
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Since days I am fighting with the no 5. It drives me nuts. Whatever I try, the result is always gibberish I think the clue is also valid for this one, right?
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GeckoZY
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:39 am Posts: 160 Location: 3rd Dimension of the 8th Hyperplane No. 1.346.103.687.6,378.13
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Yes, it's the same clue for both. 
_________________ *Seemingly random string of text* weindis idwnn dsn aidwjjf njowne dsnkn sdnc ansj eum
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ChewyChewy
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Here's a riddle:
"Celsius boils water right after sunrise, with five minutes of thunder."
Can you decipher it?
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mathgrant
Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:37 pm Posts: 471 Location: Abilene TX
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Ugh. The hint "qwerty keyboards" gets me nowhere in that other cipher. VMMCC doesn't look promising for a one-to-one cipher; COOEE fits, but leaves everything else looking like crap. I also know it's not a Playfair cipher because VMMCC CL can't arise from that.
For ChewyChewy, some theories: Celsius boils water = 100 degrees? 5 minutes of thunder equals 60 miles (http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-the-Distance-from-Lightning)?
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ChewyChewy
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
You're right so far.  Now put it together and guess the whole thing. (like "right after sunrise".)
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Hlaoroo
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:09 am Posts: 604 Location: Down Under
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
Has anybody else ever deciphered the ciphers at the bottom of each page of the Artemis Fowl books? I've left in the apostrophes to make this a little easier for you. Also, the lines breaks are just so there's not one long line of text on the page. They may or may not correspond with spaces between the words. Good luck solving this one! HINT: The puzzle half explains itself.
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yehoshua
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
I don't suppose the numbers correspond to positions in the alphabet, I started out getting RUBLEFX (rubble effects? x3)
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Hlaoroo
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:09 am Posts: 604 Location: Down Under
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 Re: The CipherCafe: Have a Slice of Riddles & a Cup of Code
It's not RUBLEFX, I'll tell you that much. Each number is a different letter - it's up to you to determine the sequence, and once you start to fill in some of the letters you'll probably get the pattern pretty easily.
_________________ Flynn Porter- Rex Rabbit - RA Jake and Joey "The JJ's" Jackson - Eastern Grey Kangaroos - EA "Sir" Cedric Ian Pimsworth- Black-Headed Gull - 17CF Tack - Brown Rat - 17CF
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lasthunter
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hehehe.....silly bunny i read those books and deciphered them.....and the 39 clues books.... 
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