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Realistic Deaths In TV Shows And Movies

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:12 pm
by snakebug
I noticed a lot of movies and tv shows always have a dramatic death scene.

They give a speech before they die and The person who watches them die gets angry, and goes for revenge.

Now, most of the time I would expect if someone got shot, they die instantly, and the other person would keep fighting, not having time to mourn.

Just thought about that and was wondering what some of you guys think about it.

(Sorry, needed to get that out of my head.)

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:17 pm
by 44R0NM10
Watch 'Downfall' if you want to see a powerful film about Nazi Germany. See 'The Departed' if you want to see a pretty awesome gangsta film. Both of them show fairly realistic deaths.

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:21 pm
by ChewyChewy
Full Metal Jacket.

Just...Full Metal Jacket.

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:17 pm
by Silly Zealot
I could recomend you several movies with real deaths, but I never got to watch them because they were dleted and banned pretty much worldwide.

You could also watch a National Geographic documentary about animal hunting habits.

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:05 pm
by 44R0NM10
Hah, I hate to break it to you, but most people don't die like they do in a Serbian Film :P . Most banned films are deleted due to sexual themes anyway nowadays, since our society is weird in that way. In all honesty, you can quite easily find real deaths on the internet somewhere.

On that note, 'The Cove' is a documentary that shows real footage of hundreds if not thousands of dolphins being slaughtered. It's an amazing movie, really worth watching. Best part, it's a pg-13 (kinda proving how much censorship sucks).

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 8:01 pm
by Silly Zealot
44R0NM10 wrote:On that note, 'The Cove' is a documentary that shows real footage of hundreds if not thousands of dolphins being slaughtered. It's an amazing movie, really worth watching. Best part, it's a pg-13 (kinda proving how much censorship sucks).
The day people gains an upper level of morality and decides to prohibit any and all depictions of death, real or fictional, outside of academical and philosophical studies, is the day I will go on rrrrrrrampage!

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:25 pm
by Radio Blue Heart
44R0NM10 wrote:Hah, I hate to break it to you, but most people don't die like they do in a Serbian Film :P . Most banned films are deleted due to sexual themes anyway nowadays, since our society is weird in that way. In all honesty, you can quite easily find real deaths on the internet somewhere.

On that note, 'The Cove' is a documentary that shows real footage of hundreds if not thousands of dolphins being slaughtered. It's an amazing movie, really worth watching. Best part, it's a pg-13 (kinda proving how much censorship sucks).
and Cannibal Holocaust...

That's all...

Re: Realistic Deaths In TV Shows And Movies

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:09 pm
by Welsh Halfwit
One of the classic Doctor Who's 'The Caves of Androzani'. An important character, Major Salateen, is killed in battle with android rebels. There's no close in shot, and no reaction from the other main army character. The fight is still on , after that, the General leads his troops straight past without stopping for even a glance.

Re: Realistic Deaths In TV Shows And Movies

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:12 pm
by Kyuunado
Quick question, how do you know how realistic a death is? When did you all become experts in "most true to life ways to die"?

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:14 pm
by snakebug
Well, I have seen somebody die before. He got electrocuted on a powerline and nobody even looked.

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:18 pm
by Welsh Halfwit
Kyuubi Kitsune wrote:Quick question, how do you know how realistic a death is? When did you all become experts in "most true to life ways to die"?
I cannot claim to be an expert but, in TV terms, some deaths are more realistic than others. Take the contrast of the woman in blue and the soldier in this collection. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-epXMv ... r_embedded To me hers is worse - but not the worst in that story where a businessman, once exterminated, turns and looks at his boss for two whole seconds before collapsing.

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:40 pm
by Silly Zealot
snakebug wrote:Well, I have seen somebody die before. He got electrocuted on a powerline and nobody even looked.
I assume it was a bug or a bird...... I hope so, at least.

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:53 pm
by snakebug
Well, I assumed he died, it was somebody working on the powerline.

If not he probably would be in the hospital for a year....

Re: Realistic Deaths In TV Shows And Movies

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:04 pm
by JeffCvt
That's enough of the talk of someone being (possibly) killed. This is a thread for talking about deaths in movies or TV shows. Talking about death in real life is a little different and some people may not want to hear about that.

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:15 pm
by snakebug
Sorry...

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:52 pm
by 44R0NM10
You guys should watch Game of Thrones. That's got some fairly realistic deaths in there in some places. Not in every placement admittedly, but in a fair amount that include actual battles.

When you're stabbed with a sword, you die. Amazing how many action movies don't understand that.

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Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:39 pm
by Silly Zealot
I would reccomend checking on the Walking Dead for more "believable" (sans the zombies and such) deaths, specially the comic, the summary of which I read on the official whiskypedia.

What seems to be more revolutionary to the zombie genre within the Walking Dead is not the emotional scaring and trauma the characters are mercilessly and sistematically subjected to, not the fact that they have to struggle to even get bullets, not been attacked by raiders and psychopaths who seek to take either resources or complete control of the inmedeate area, and not the fact that everyone who dies, for whatever reason, except having their brains severly damaged, becomes a zombie.
What makes it so new is that NO CHARACTER appears to have the "hero's shield", that prevents a character of relevance from dying. Every single one of the main characters, at least in the "comic" (for all the comedy it has), is already dead or physically scarred! It really makes you feel for the characters, and fear for their inmedeate future!

Re: Realistic Deaths In TV Shows And Movies

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:05 am
by Dissension
snakebug wrote:Now, most of the time I would expect if someone got shot, they die instantly, and the other person would keep fighting, not having time to mourn.
This is a false expectation. Gunshot injuries are rarely lethal; those that do result in death are typically due to exsanguination or penetrating trauma to multiple organ systems. Neither of those are instant killers and either can allow the injured party several minutes (or even hours, depending on rate of blood loss) of consciousness. Example: Boston bombing suspect Dzhokar Tsarnaev received gunshots to the head and neck, among other injuries, and actively hid from police for at least 18 hours.
44R0NM10 wrote:When you're stabbed with a sword, you die. Amazing how many action movies don't understand that.
This also depends on location of injury and size of the blade. Stabbings, even with a sword, are not 100% lethal.

Re: Realistic Deaths In TV Shows And Movies

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:31 pm
by Sleet
Pretty much the heart and the head are the only places you can instantly kill someone with a sword thrust. The common movie occurrence of getting stabbed in the gut is actually a very slow way to die.

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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:27 pm
by Silly Zealot
Sleet wrote:Pretty much the heart and the head are the only places you can instantly kill someone with a sword thrust. The common movie occurrence of getting stabbed in the gut is actually a very slow way to die.
Sleet knows this from personal experience, so you should listen to her.

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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:41 am
by yehoshua
Also since there are very few GoT episodes without head choppyness.

Re: Realistic Deaths In TV Shows And Movies

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:48 am
by Onlythebassist
Roman Polanski's 'The Pianist' is a harrowing film; definitely worth a watch if you pride yourself on loving films.

On the other hand, Tarantino's 'Django Unchained' mixes naturalistic deaths with the outlandish. In the same vein as 'The Pianist', it takes a topic as is and makes a powerful film. For a movie Quentin directed, the amount of pathos (transition from humour to serious topic) is interesting.

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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:51 pm
by TinFoilHats
The Plague Dogs....

...'nuff said

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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:07 pm
by Radio Blue Heart
Other than being the first gore film and showing very bloody deaths, the film "Blood Feast" was considered shocking because the victims died with their eyes open. At the time it took censorship boards by complete surprise. They had standards involving profane language and nudity, but not for gore and violence of that level.

Mod Edit: You really aren't allowed to discuss gore. Sorry.