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Are You A Furry? 

Do you consider yourself a furry?
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having a big to-do about confessing your participation in the furry fandom just makes people think it's a bigger deal than it really is. It's not a big deal at all.

^That sums up my sentiments fairly well. Being a furry signifies nothing more than an interest and it's somewhat silly to fret over it or treat it as if it were more~

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Sleet's got it... nonchalance is the order of the day. If you really feel people must know, simply don't hide your activities. Don't make it a big deal. People who aren't terribly immersed in internet culture-- presumably your parents would be in this group-- don't have a conception of the word "furry," so for goodness' sake don't introduce a term that has so much baggage attached to it (especially considering a Google search of the word will give people exactly the wrong idea). Just do what you do, and let it be nothing more and nothing less than that. And even with friends who do know about the fandom (if only a little), indifference is still a good thing:

"Oh wow, you're one of those furries?"
"Huh? I just like drawing cartoon animals. I blame it on all those Disney movies I watched as a kid."
"But you're a furry."
"Dude, I just like to draw cartoon-y stuff. That's all there is to it, regardless of whatever this 'furry' thing you're talking about is."

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That's exactly what I'm doing with some of my friends about me being a brony.

I don't make a big deal about it, I've never even brought up MLP directly. All I've actually done is ask if they listen to music not produced by well known artists. There are a few people on YouTube that I listen to that do songs based on MLP, and I'll bring one up if it becomes relevant to the conversation. Although I don't do it in a way that screams "This song is based off of MLP", I won't hide who made the song or the name of the person (Well, screen name). It's only a matter of time before one of my friends actually looks up these people.

For anyone who I don't want to know I filter everything that goes through my head before I say it, but for anyone else that I don't care if they know or not, I don't tell or not tell them. If they figure it out, then they do. If they don't, then they don't.

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hey Arjay, do you have OC?

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To what are you referring?

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I means an original character. In a furry context, the word is similar but not identical to "fursona."

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for example, every character in the RP threads is an OC, whether or not it's the player's fursona.
well, the Cs there aren't entirely O since they're in pre-existing universes, but they'r O enough for me to consider them OCs

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Yes, I am aware, I was offering an opportunity to lessen ambiguity. :3

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I just get scared whenever Diss asks me a question...

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hey Arjay, do you have OC?

I am having a difficult time developing an OC for myself unfortunately :(

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I'm gonna be honest, there's not really a massive point to coming out with this. It's not really massively different from saying: "I'm interested in chess.".

Oh, there's 1 massive tip. Don't make it a big thing. If you have to say anything, don't make it seem like some life changing aspect. "Hey Mum, I'm going out tomorrow to a convention thing, hope you don't need me.". That is really all you need to say if you fancy heading to meet others at a fur con or whatever it's called. I suggest having some sort of IRL friend with you that you trust with you though. Depends on your age really. I'm 17 and my Mum still hates me going to a social gathering unless I have a friend there. If you do have a friend going with you, I imagine your Mum would be fine so long as you don't decide to tell her what this place is publicly known for. Chances are, everyone who doesn't spend a good few hours each day on the internet doesn't even know what a furry is, nor care what they are known for.


yeah i didn't have a big problem with it myself but i know people who did so i figured that having a board for it was a good idea. I just integrated it into conversation with both my parents when discussing something related to other demographics. Hilariously enough though, i just discovered that my mom had completely forgotten we ever had the conversation and we had to talk about it again XD

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There's no reason that discussion couldn't go on here (thread, not board).

Hopefully the second time around you didn't make it sound like a huge deal. Did your mom react positively?

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She seemed more suprised that we had discussed it before than anything else, and actually expressed an intrest to attend a conventIon in the future.

And I call them boards but if it really bothers you I'll call them threads when you're around.

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uhhhhhh,
I think one of my friend seems to be a furry. him, other friends and I actually talked about a Furry stuffs for a minute in gym class. it started off from talking about cartoons and stuff.tho I pretended to not know what the furry is. gahhhhhhhhh, I think I should talk to him personally...

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hey Arjay, do you have OC?

I am having a difficult time developing an OC for myself unfortunately :(
I can help you!

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hey Arjay, do you have OC?

I am having a difficult time developing an OC for myself unfortunately :(
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Sure!

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She seemed more suprised that we had discussed it before than anything else, and actually expressed an intrest to attend a conventIon in the future.

And I call them boards but if it really bothers you I'll call them threads when you're around.
That's good that she's supportive about it! ^^

"Boards" specifically refers to this entire forum or one of the subforums in it. The correct term is "threads" or "topics." If you use those, you won't confuse anyone. If you say "boards," you will. Plus I'm always around.

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I'm always around.


good point :/

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Is it wrong to not be a furry, yet like furry art(but not furry I flunked middle school. *shudder* Definitely not furry I flunked middle school.)?

EDIT: I mean, I wanna draw furry art, but I don't want to be branded as such by some people.

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No, I don't see why not. I'm not a furry but that doesn't meant I can't enjoy surfing the web for neat drawings of whatever I want.

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that aspect is not a requirement to be a furry and we don't discuss it here.

being a furry is a self-definition. If you don't feel like a furry, you aren't, but by other people's definitions you might be. When you say you like Furry art, do you like it at least partially because it's furry? If so, others would say you're a furry. If not, you just appreciate good art regardless of the subject matter.

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There's nothing wrong with not being a furry and liking furry art. I'm not a furry and the cover sheet for my online class/college papers binder is a picture of Rhea, Snowy, and Buwaro from Slightly Damned that I drew a few years ago.

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Is it wrong to not be a furry, yet like furry art(but not furry I flunked middle school. *shudder* Definitely not furry I flunked middle school.)?

I'm furry and I don't find it being wrong at all.

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I'm a furry. I discovered the fandom in 1996 by stumbling on a site called Yerf when i was searching dragons one day.


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just a random thought... in far future wouldn't there be a point of time where the both of children and their parents are both furry?

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It doesn't even have to be the future.


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I'm sure it's already happened.

When I have kits, I don't intend to make them furries, but I think growing up around the kind of stuff I like would possibly push them in that direction on their own.

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So... If that pattern occurs, and almost all the world are furs in the VERY distant future, will it be like the next singularity or something?

(I'm saying this based off of the perception that the singularity will have occurred by then)

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Chances are the number of furries will only increase slightly as misunderstanding the fandom becomes increasingly out of vogue. Some people just aren't furries, yaknow.

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TinFoilHats wrote:
Is it wrong to not be a furry, yet like furry art?

Not at all, I was like that for ages, I occasionally saw a piece of furry art and thought it was really cool. I eventually had a few furry artists I liked and I checked back on their stuff regularly, just as I did non-furry artists. After a while I just decided the furry stuff was better than normal stuff (generally speaking in my opinion) and so became a furry (although I prefer to call myself anthro for the sake of separating myself from that other thing you said ;)).

Also, while I think having furry families will become more common as the fandom is less persecuted, I'm pretty sure it'll taper off and there'll be a set percentage of people that are furries that stays constant. Also, I'm with Sleet on this, I'll give my kids all the old Disney movies to watch and have anthro media for them to read/watch etc. but I'm not going to push them into it, hopefully they'll grow up with an appreciation for it or at least a tolerance and anything else is their choice.

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Chances are the number of furries will only increase slightly as misunderstanding the fandom becomes increasingly out of vogue. Some people just aren't furries, yaknow.


That is why I said "almost". It would be. a sight to see though.

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When I have kits, I don't intend to make them furries, but I think growing up around the kind of stuff I like would possibly push them in that direction on their own.

I sincerely hope you are joking. What your talking about is indoctrination! Attempting to subtly influence a vulnerable or undeveloped mind into a particular way of thinking is indoctrinating them. Conducting such treatment on anyone could seriously harm the prospect of the development of a truly independent mind. People must find out things on their own, with no tricks or traps set up by others who want them to think a certain way, so that everyone can come to their own conclusions about anything they might come across.


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When I have kits, I don't intend to make them furries, but I think growing up around the kind of stuff I like would possibly push them in that direction on their own.

I sincerely hope you are joking. What your talking about is indoctrination! Attempting to subtly influence a vulnerable or undeveloped mind into a particular way of thinking is indoctrinating them. Conducting such treatment on anyone could seriously harm the prospect of the development of a truly independent mind. People must find out things on their own, with no tricks or traps set up by others who want them to think a certain way, so that everyone can come to their own conclusions about anything they might come across.

I think you completely misunderstand Sleet, because that's the exact thing that she said wouldn't happen. He won't make his kids like what she likes, but he won't stop liking. This means that her kits will likely experience this stuff while he's watching it and will have easier access to it, and may or may not grow to like it too.
in the same way I like Sci-fi and superheroes because my mom watched X-Files and X-Men and my taste in music is similar to hers as well.. But there's still things I like that she doesn't and vice versa.

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But she said she would bring up her children around the same kind of stuff she likes, that is indoctrination. I know the likelihood of it exploding into something serious is quite low but its not impossible, and the slightest chance of anything harmful occuring should be avoided, or, at the very least, pursued with constant caution and scrutiny. Only because you are not forceful does not mean you are not responsible.


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I have been pushed by furries into becoming one because they think I am a closet fur.... just never interested me. I am not a furry, plain and simple. I may enjoy some furry stuff, but that is coincidental. It is all a matter of what you think you are at this point.

As for indoctrination, I doubt it.... let us use an example. You are a huge Dr. Who fan. You have figurines and posters in your home when you have kids, and watch the episodes all the time. One day, your kid asks about it, so you tell him/her. They watch an episode and like it. You begin watching it together.... that happens a lot, it is not really indoctrination, just coincidental things.... not evil.

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I agree with Brent and Copper here.

My dad has always been an influence on me as far as being interested in hands on type stuff like fixing cars or carpentry. He has been to the point that I would like to go into a career that is very hands on.

However, he never once said anything to me about getting a job like that. Never once has he ever done anything to try and get me interested in it, I just always have been because he's always done that kind of stuff.


I will give you that my dad did want me to learn how to do specific things, like change the oil in a car, but he never had the intention of making me want to pursue a career in fixing cars. I don't see the problem in Sleet still doing furry things as long as he lets his kids know that they don't have to like it and are free to chose for themselves.

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Aren't ALL children brought up in an environment that includes the things their caregivers are interested in? We're not talking about a deliberate flooding of the theoretical kids environment with all things anthropomorphic, it'd more be if caregiver had Star-Wars stuff around, because they were a fan, the kid might find it neat. That's everyday life for practically everyone. Parents regularly push roles, identities, personalities, likes and dislikes on their offspring often because they want them to grow up a certain way, to stay away from certain things, to get into things they might have wished they were into as a child. Even despite that, most kids grow up, find their own way, make their own choices anyways and be their own people.

Indoctrination is something much more focused, sometimes sinister, and is not a word I would even remotely associate with Sleet's comments.


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I have been pushed by furries into becoming one because they think I am a closet fur.... just never interested me. I am not a furry, plain and simple. I may enjoy some furry stuff, but that is coincidental. It is all a matter of what you think you are at this point.

As for indoctrination, I doubt it.... let us use an example. You are a huge Dr. Who fan. You have figurines and posters in your home when you have kids, and watch the episodes all the time. One day, your kid asks about it, so you tell him/her. They watch an episode and like it. You begin watching it together.... that happens a lot, it is not really indoctrination, just coincidental things.... not evil.

In that scenario, the child has approached Dr. Who on their own. Sleet, by what she said, would present the kind of stuff she likes to the child. It is still indoctrination, weak though it might be.

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I agree with Brent and Copper here.

My dad has always been an influence on me as far as being interested in hands on type stuff like fixing cars or carpentry. He has been to the point that I would like to go into a career that is very hands on.
However, he never once said anything to me about getting a job like that. Never once has he ever done anything to try and get me interested in it, I just always have been because he's always done that kind of stuff.
I will give you that my dad did want me to learn how to do specific things, like change the oil in a car, but he never had the intention of making me want to pursue a career in fixing cars. I don't see the problem in Sleet still doing furry things as long as he lets his kids know that they don't have to like it and are free to chose for themselves.

And people should do with their children as your father has done for you, teaching your children life skills is a good thing and always will be. But, surrounding a child in a particular idea is not truly allowing them to make their own decisions about what they should be enthusiastic about, if you stick someone in front of something they do not like for whatever reason for an infinite amount of time then they will start to like it, eventually. This is indoctrination. And surrounding a child with furry stuff for their whole childhood is the equivalent of the experiment I described. Do you honestly think anyone is capable of retaining a none-bias opinion for so many years? I would doubt it.

@ DingoWolf - This is just a discussion, I am not saying Sleet should be condemned for it. I am just saying this is the sort of thing people should think about and be aware of, that's all.


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I have been pushed by furries into becoming one because they think I am a closet fur.... just never interested me. I am not a furry, plain and simple. I may enjoy some furry stuff, but that is coincidental. It is all a matter of what you think you are at this point.

As for indoctrination, I doubt it.... let us use an example. You are a huge Dr. Who fan. You have figurines and posters in your home when you have kids, and watch the episodes all the time. One day, your kid asks about it, so you tell him/her. They watch an episode and like it. You begin watching it together.... that happens a lot, it is not really indoctrination, just coincidental things.... not evil.

In that scenario, the child has approached Dr. Who on their own. Sleet, by what she said, would present the kind of stuff she likes to the child. It is still indoctrination, weak though it might be.

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I agree with Brent and Copper here.

My dad has always been an influence on me as far as being interested in hands on type stuff like fixing cars or carpentry. He has been to the point that I would like to go into a career that is very hands on.
However, he never once said anything to me about getting a job like that. Never once has he ever done anything to try and get me interested in it, I just always have been because he's always done that kind of stuff.
I will give you that my dad did want me to learn how to do specific things, like change the oil in a car, but he never had the intention of making me want to pursue a career in fixing cars. I don't see the problem in Sleet still doing furry things as long as he lets his kids know that they don't have to like it and are free to chose for themselves.

And people should do with their children as your father has done for you, teaching your children life skills is a good thing and always will be. But, surrounding a child in a particular idea is not truly allowing them to make their own decisions about what they should be enthusiastic about, if you stick someone in front of something they do not like for whatever reason for an infinite amount of time then they will start to like it, eventually. This is indoctrination. And surrounding a child with furry stuff for their whole childhood is the equivalent of the experiment I described. Do you honestly think anyone is capable of retaining a none-bias opinion for so many years? I would doubt it.

You're still misreading what Sleet said. She meant something along the lines of what Copper described: There will be anthropomorphic stuff throughout his house because it's what she likes, and the kits are likely to become curious and ask about it, but they may not.

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indoctrinate

Indoctrination implies some kind of active attempt to push someone towards a certain idea (or interest in this case) If the hypothetical parent was to push the child towards furry related media and items you would have a point. Simply enjoying something and having items related to that interest around the home could hardly be considered indoctrination. For example, My father used to watch alot of hockey and listen to metal. I was exposed to those things because we lived in the same house and I ended up enjoying them. However there was no attempt to pressure or convince me to like those things. That can hardly be considered indoctrination as much as me being a product of my environment. These ideas are somewhat similar but since my parents never pushed me too like any of the things I do and let me create my own identity (which is pretty much what sleet said he/she would do) I would hardly consider myself a victim of any sort of indoctrination weak or otherwise. Even if we were to assume that your definition of "weak indoctrination" as something that should be "the sort of thing people should think about and be aware of" what exactly would you propose? Parents hide all their interests so they don't influence their children's development? That's impossbile; all people have different interests/morals/philosophies/ect. that will inevitably be part of a child's environment. I think you're working with a flawed overly simplified definition of indoctrination here. At least to me it sounds like you're just reiterating the point that a child's environement has an effect on it. However that is a passive effect wheras indoctrination requires an active attempt.

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All I'd do is have animal stuff around the house, have pets, watch cartoons (which my kits would be welcome to join me with), and take my kits to see animated movies in theaters (unless it's for a date with my spouse :P). And I wouldn't encourage my kits to stop liking cartoons after a certain age. I'm not gonna shove furry stuff in their face. They'll just have an elevated chance of becoming furries as a result of me being a furry is all.

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