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Unless I'm mistaken you, Rick, stated a while back Bino's one or even the oldest of your chars and was the hero of the comics you draw in your early childhood. Not that there's a rule saying one must make such creations the heroes of one's most recent work out of nostalgic or other feelings, but I wonder why you made him an antagonist (or at least someone with mostly negative personality traits).

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Because that's how comic strip characters tended to go. Bino would be mean-spirited and snarky (he was partly based off of Garfield) but would get away with it because he was "lovable" which means "an animal". The entirety of 'Bino Goes to Paris' was mostly Bino getting his owner angry at him for no reason at all.

Of course since I don't like characters like that when you bring them into a setting that is not centered on them, they tend to look like bad guys in comparison to the characters who actually have good qualities, and so his mean-spiritedness became more prominent.

Maybe I ought to do a retread of an old Bino story sometime so you see how he interacts with his owner.

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I would love to see more of a background for him, since everyone keeps on going about him being the snobby, evil, heartless, jerk. (Except a lot less severe)
But if we have a background on him, we may find something we can relate toward our little prankster friend.

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I would love to see more of a background for him, since everyone keeps on going about him being the snobby, evil, heartless, jerk. (Except a lot less severe)
But if we have a background on him, we may find something we can relate toward our little prankster friend.


This is exactly what I'm waiting for as well.

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That's interesting, thanks Rick, especially the part about jerk heroes becoming villains if they aren't the focus of the show. I'm seeing that CAD guy in my mind's eye.

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Thanks Mr. Griffin! I've always wondered how Bino talks to his owner in paricular! Respectful...or more like Tiger?

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FlintTheSquirrel wrote:
I would love to see more of a background for him, since everyone keeps on going about him being the snobby, evil, heartless, jerk. (Except a lot less severe)
But if we have a background on him, we may find something we can relate toward our little prankster friend.


This is exactly what I'm waiting for as well.

This. It'll be interesting.

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Thanks Mr. Griffin! I've always wondered how Bino talks to his owner in paricular! Respectful...or more like Tiger?


Have we SEEN Tiger talking to his owner...?

I was kind of curious as to how the main character of the kid comic became such a jerk in this one....

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As long as the jerk in the cast is a witty jerk, he's alright in my book.

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As long as the jerk in the cast is a witty jerk, he's alright in my book.


Bino's all right in my book because I can laugh at him--especially since most of his hijinks come back to bite him.

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Bino's all right in my book because... erm... I can relate to him?

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Some people are born jerks, others have jerkiness thrust upon them; still others look like jerks when taken out of context.

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@Chewy well Tiger ate all the pizza :D

Diss forgot one other type of jerk...the nice guy/girl who wants people to think of him/herself as a jerk...but doesn't have the heart to do anything worphy of being named a jerk.

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44R0NM10 wrote:
@Chewy well Tiger ate all the pizza :D

Diss forgot one other type of jerk...the nice guy/girl who wants people to think of him/herself as a jerk...but doesn't have the heart to do anything worphy of being named a jerk.

...true story.


But he didn't talk to his owner in that comic....

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you make my point seem a little off...what I mean is, Tiger seems to not give full respect to his owner (like Garfield). We can tell this without them talking to each other right? That is my point... is Bino the same as Tiger when it comes to talking to his owner or does he give Bill (his owner) a lot more respect?

Don't take the above like a :evil: but more like :ugeek: my friend.

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44R0NM10 wrote:
you make my point seem a little off...what I mean is, Tiger seems to not give full respect to his owner (like Garfield). We can tell this without them talking to each other right? That is my point... is Bino the same as Tiger when it comes to talking to his owner or does he give Bill (his owner) a lot more respect?

Don't take the above like a :evil: but more like :ugeek: my friend.


Bino's owner is a guy named Jake
http://www.housepetscomic.com/2008/09/0 ... cred-duty/
And the man's most definitely a jerk for putting a shock collar on Bino
http://www.housepetscomic.com/2009/03/1 ... -reaction/

(Officer) Bill is the owner of Fox, and he can break wolves in two.

I must break a bone for Bino: part of what he is is surely due to some heavy mistreatment.

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Bino's owner is a guy named Jake
http://www.housepetscomic.com/2008/09/0 ... cred-duty/
And the man's most definitely a jerk for putting a shock collar on Bino
http://www.housepetscomic.com/2009/03/1 ... -reaction/

(Officer) Bill is the owner of Fox, and he can break wolves in two.

I must break a bone for Bino: part of what he is is surely due to some heavy mistreatment.


While I'll agree with you that the Shock Collar could be seen mistreatment it could all so be seen as a last resort to discipline Bino. For all we know Jake tried everything else to discipline him and get rid of his problem and the Shock Collar was a last resort. There is no evidence (other than the collar) that shows Bino has been mistreated by Jake he might have been but again we have no real evidence.

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you may ne right.
The fact is, I SO hate that instrument, that I can't forgive its use. It just maddens me to no end.! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

EDIT: if you are right, Kitsune, it means that Bino is a deep-core meanie for whom not even such a resort could work. And THAT worries me. A lot.

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valerio wrote:
you may ne right.
The fact is, I SO hate that instrument, that I can't forgive its use. It just maddens me to no end.! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

EDIT: if you are right, Kitsune, it means that Bino is a deep-core meanie for whom not even such a resort could work. And THAT worries me. A lot.


Well we don't know what the problem was that the collar was meant to fix (and unless I misunderstanding you your saying the problem was his meanness) it could have been the Zoning issue he had (though I'm not sure how a shock collar would stop this) or just him talking back to Jake. Now your right it could be his meanness but it was never stated (as far as I could tell) what it was. Even if it is his meanness just because the Shock Collar didn't work doesn't mean that something else couldn't turn Bino around.

Edit: added more thoughts.

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Because that's how comic strip characters tended to go. Bino would be mean-spirited and snarky (he was partly based off of Garfield) but would get away with it because he was "lovable" which means "an animal". The entirety of 'Bino Goes to Paris' was mostly Bino getting his owner angry at him for no reason at all.

Of course since I don't like characters like that when you bring them into a setting that is not centered on them, they tend to look like bad guys in comparison to the characters who actually have good qualities, and so his mean-spiritedness became more prominent.

Maybe I ought to do a retread of an old Bino story sometime so you see how he interacts with his owner.

This times 100! I'd love to see some Bino storylines. He's one of my favorite characters.

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Interestingly, a similar thing happened in Dandy and Company; http://www.dandyandcompany.com/

The original design for the main character Dandy that the author made several years before the comic was completely different, and became the comic's main antagonist as "Evil Dandy".

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