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Author:  Alex [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Avatars

Well, since there's a thread for signatures and wallpapers, why not for avatars, too :D? I made some, but I suck at it, so I can't wait to see what others will make :).

Bino
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Peanut
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Maxwell
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King
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Joey
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Grape
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Fox
Image Image Image Image Image

Tarot
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Fido
Image Image Image Image Image Image Image Image Image Image Image Image Image Image

Sasha
Image Image Image Image

Misc
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Miles/Lucretia/Cubs
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Marvin/Tiger/Zachary
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Mice
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Sabrina
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Come on people, contribute! It's fun creating avatars :mrgreen:.

Author:  Dylan [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Nice finds. :D

Author:  Hipstar [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

thanks man

Author:  The Game [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Nice!!
Now I have to decide wich one to use...
I can use them right??

Author:  Frooxius [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

As I already said, nice work. It forced me to also change my avatar to something better :D

Anyway, wouldn't it be better to separate pictures only by space and not by newlines? It would save an awful lot of space. Like this:

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Author:  Buckdida [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Ooh ooh ooh!

I made a ton of these too!

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Author:  Dissension [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

I've created several avatars, but unfortunately most of them were on my flash drive which was stolen from the university library. Most recently, I have been making Fox and King-themed avatars, like the one I currently use.

Also Rick has several of my older ones, if he should feel like posting an example. *laughs*

Author:  Alex [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Okay, I made more and organized the OP. I still haven't added Buck's banners. Please for everyone who's creating banners to organize them in a post like the OP is organized, it's easier for me to add them. I'm in a hurry to go to school now, so I'll re-update the OP with Buck's avatars when I get back.

Keep 'em coming, people :D.

Author:  ArgentFlame [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

So I made some Avatars.


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There are many more on the way.

Author:  Kyderra [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Image Image Image

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Author:  Alex [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Okay, edited OP. Kyderra, it seems we made two almost-same avatars: Embarrassed Grape & Happy Peanut entering door (Although yours is a close-up).

Also, Buck it seems like both you and me made similar Max crying avatars :).

Keep them coming.

Author:  Kyderra [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Alex Wrote:
Okay, edited OP. Kyderra, it seems we made two almost-same avatars: Embarrassed Grape & Happy Peanut entering door (Although yours is a close-up).

Also, Buck it seems like both you and me made similar Max crying avatars :).

Keep them coming.


I just noticed it.
there are sooo many already.
the OP is really sorted nicely :)

Author:  The Game [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

what strips are the following pics from?
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Author:  Kyderra [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

the one with the black bar are 2
Image

http://www.housepetscomic.com/2009/07/0 ... the-mouth/
http://www.housepetscomic.com/2009/07/1 ... t-nothing/

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Author:  Buckdida [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

The Game Wrote:
what strips are the following pics from?
ImageImageImageImageImageImageImage


For # 1, 4, 5, and six, check "The Visitor" arc. #7 is from New Years, 2008, and #2 is a custom made edit.

Author:  Ebly [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Image I took it ages ago. Never used it.
Image First I used.
Image Peanut
Image I didn't care that it's small
Image My longest-lived avatar yet. Bow down to the Bino.



I've lost all my other ones since I put them on tinypic so they're not saved.
You'll live without them.

Author:  The Game [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Kyderra Wrote:
the one with the black bar are 2
Image



oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh That makes sense. Thanks!

Author:  The Game [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Buckdida Wrote:
The Game Wrote:
what strips are the following pics from?
ImageImageImageImageImageImageImage


For # 1, 4, 5, and six, check "The Visitor" arc. #7 is from New Years, 2008, and #2 is a custom made edit.


I do see a resemblence in 4-5-6
Muchos Gracias!

EDIT: I wrote these as two because they were to diff people. I couldnt figure out how to quote 2 people in one reply.

Author:  Two_Twig [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Ebly Wrote:
I've lost all my other ones since I put them on tinypic so they're not saved.
You'll live without them.
If you lost the one I made you, I could send it to you again. If you want me to that is.

Author:  Ebly [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Two_Twig Wrote:
Ebly Wrote:
I've lost all my other ones since I put them on tinypic so they're not saved.
You'll live without them.
If you lost the one I made you, I could send it to you again. If you want me to that this.

Yes! Please please please! That one I will not live without!
Actually just post it here because it must be glorified with the rest of them!

Author:  Alex [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Buckdida Wrote:
The Game Wrote:
what strips are the following pics from?
ImageImageImageImageImageImageImage


For # 1, 4, 5, and six, check "The Visitor" arc. #7 is from New Years, 2008, and #2 is a custom made edit.

And #3 is the vet arc.

EDIT: Edited OP, added a new Sabrina avatar made by me. Hope you guys like it :).

Author:  Anthroguy101 [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Problem

Guys, I'm having problems. It says I need a file that's between 0 and 24 Kb, and my avatar's size is bigger than that. A little help?

Author:  Anthroguy101 [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Problem solved

Never mind. If you guys have any problems, go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Paint, and save it as a GIF.
Also, haha, I totally called it!

Author:  Frooxius [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Oh god... They're saving it as JPG again, although I said several times, that it's not appropriate format for this type of graphics. It degrades the quality, although they obviously used higher quality setting, so the artifacts are not so big, but the same cannot be said about file size. Once again: JPG is optimized for saving photos, not computer graphics (non-photo-like), use PNG instead.

Look, I saved the exactly same picture in PNG and suddenly, the size is down to ~19.1 KB, from ~34 KB, that's almost 50 % less! And with no quality loss! You can use this picture, since it already fits in the limit.

Image

Also GIF you used is very poor choice. Don't you see that it decreased picture quality a lot? Especially when you used MS Paint, which does not optimize the palette and picture anyhow (dithering), so it looks very very bad.

Author:  Two_Twig [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Ebly Wrote:
Two_Twig Wrote:
Ebly Wrote:
I've lost all my other ones since I put them on tinypic so they're not saved.
You'll live without them.
If you lost the one I made you, I could send it to you again. If you want me to that this.

Yes! Please please please! That one I will not live without!
Actually just post it here because it must be glorified with the rest of them!

Image

Here you go :D

p.s. Sorry I forgot to re-size it again. It comes out weird whenever I try to for some reason.

Author:  Kyderra [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Problem solved

BlueArmy Wrote:
Never mind. If you guys have any problems, go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>Paint, and save it as a GIF.
Also, haha, I totally called it!


if it's to big, this is what I do:
save or copy the file > open in paint > Ctrl + S > upload
you will only see your cursor flicker, but thats enough
in paint will size it down enough, even in jpg

Author:  Frooxius [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Problem solved

Kyderra Wrote:
in paint will size it down enough, even in jpg


Why is everyone ignoring me? (especially the 3rd post above this one (without this one))

Author:  Alex [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

I think it's because your post was "long" (Although it was short). Learn to read long posts, Internet! It's useful.

Also, I think that we have more avatars than members now, but someone would have to count.

Author:  Sinder [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Problem solved

Tails++ Wrote:
Why is everyone ignoring me?

It's generally believed that PNGs, due to being higher-quality images, always end up having larger filesizes than JPGs do. I thought this was the case myself until I was making avatars a few days back and found out that my PNGs were actually getting better compression. In addition, I'm not sure some older graphics programs may support saving as PNGs at all (Inkscape does, but its default format is SVG, and for some reason the PNGs come out really bloated...)

In summary,

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Author:  Frooxius [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Well, that's basically what I said. When I saved it to PNG instead of JPG, it's size dropped almost to half (because PNG is optimized for such graphics, JPG for photos, so unless you use very low quality, it will be even larger). Also, don't take that "everyone is ignoring me" too seriously.
Basically:
Image

Author:  Alex [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Image

EDIT: Updated the OP again with 5 new avatars: One grape and 4 Marvin/Tiger/Zachary ones.

Author:  Kyderra [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Image ------------Image
15.1 KB .JPG------------------- 14.5 KB .PNG

any one cares... really?, I mean, look at this


AAAANyway, i like this Thread, because there is finally a place wear all the char are getting listed with pictures and names :)

Author:  Buckdida [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

The left one looks grainy and, thus, bad looking. I'd go with png anyday!

And Rick has his comics up on the site in PNG format; what does that tell you? :lol:

Author:  Frooxius [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Kyderra Wrote:
any one cares... really?, I mean, look at this

Yes. As you can see, JPG has clearly reduced the quality, while PNG left the picture nice and intact and yet, managed to create smaller size, even when you used lower compression setting. Look, I saved the same picture in PNG with higher compression setting and reduced that 14.5 KB to 9.58 KB with no quality loss.

Image
9.58 KB (optimized) PNG

Once again, JPG uses cosine transform, which suitable for photos, where are smooth color changes, so it's very effective for them and does not cause such big artifacts. However, this algorithm is not designed for computer graphics, with large solid-color areas and sharp transitions (lines), where it produces visible artifacts and also does not compress it very well, because it's not compressing the type of data it was designed to. PNG on the other hand, is much more suitable for such graphics. It can compress it to very small sizes and yet, it does not remove any data or cause any artifacts. On the other side, it's not very good at compressing photos, because it was not designed to compress them, so it produces larger files than JPG (however, it is being used even for photos, when you need not to lose any data and have the original picture completely intact, like in graphics studios or medicine).

So basically: Why use format which cripples the picture, when there's alternative which stores it at maximum quality and yet, produces (usually, it's not a rule) smaller files than the crippling format? Why intentionally use the worse alternative? :shock:

Also look, here's the difference between JPG and PNG, when you XOR the both pictures (you can see which parts the JPG crippled):
Image

Author:  Keeshah [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

iconz

Attachments:
King-icon.PNG
King-icon.PNG [ 26.1 KiB | Viewed 32447 times ]
hug2.PNG
hug2.PNG [ 13.6 KiB | Viewed 32447 times ]
hug.PNG
hug.PNG [ 10.88 KiB | Viewed 32447 times ]

Author:  Anthroguy101 [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Of PNGs, GIFs and JPEGs

Tails++ Wrote:
Kyderra Wrote:
any one cares... really?, I mean, look at this

Yes. As you can see, JPG has clearly reduced the quality, while PNG left the picture nice and intact and yet, managed to create smaller size, even when you used lower compression setting. Look, I saved the same picture in PNG with higher compression setting and reduced that 14.5 KB to 9.58 KB with no quality loss.

Image
9.58 KB (optimized) PNG

Once again, JPG uses cosine transform, which suitable for photos, where are smooth color changes, so it's very effective for them and does not cause such big artifacts. However, this algorithm is not designed for computer graphics, with large solid-color areas and sharp transitions (lines), where it produces visible artifacts and also does not compress it very well, because it's not compressing the type of data it was designed to. PNG on the other hand, is much more suitable for such graphics. It can compress it to very small sizes and yet, it does not remove any data or cause any artifacts. On the other side, it's not very good at compressing photos, because it was not designed to compress them, so it produces larger files than JPG (however, it is being used even for photos, when you need not to lose any data and have the original picture completely intact, like in graphics studios or medicine).

So basically: Why use format which cripples the picture, when there's alternative which stores it at maximum quality and yet, produces (usually, it's not a rule) smaller files than the crippling format? Why intentionally use the worse alternative? :shock:

Also look, here's the difference between JPG and PNG, when you XOR the both pictures (you can see which parts the JPG crippled):
Image
Fine, Tails, I switched to PNG. You win. Also, don't get your panties in a bunch. It's a free country (at least it is here), we'll use whatever format will work best for our needs.

Author:  Ebly [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

I don't know how you can get something as small as a 100x100 image to be over 24 kb.
Are you kids smuggling drugs in your avatars?

well i do know how but i'm being SILLY okay because i'm EBLY okay

Author:  RockstarRaccoon [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Avatars

Avatar successfully stolen. >:|

Author:  Foxstar [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Of PNGs, GIFs and JPEGs

BlueArmy Wrote:
Fine, Tails, I switched to PNG. You win. Also, don't get your panties in a bunch. It's a free country (at least it is here), we'll use whatever format will work best for our needs.


He just cares about the avatars looking good. Don't be snappy with him over that.

Also the internet is not a free country. Your subject to the whims and rules of whoever runs the website your visiting, the ISP that allows you to connect and the country your connecting from.

Author:  Anthroguy101 [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:36 am ]
Post subject:  Reply

Foxstar Wrote:
BlueArmy Wrote:
Fine, Tails, I switched to PNG. You win. Also, don't get your panties in a bunch. It's a free country (at least it is here), we'll use whatever format will work best for our needs.


He just cares about the avatars looking good. Don't be snappy with him over that.

Also the internet is not a free country. Your subject to the whims and rules of whoever runs the website your visiting, the ISP that allows you to connect and the country your connecting from.
Sorry.

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