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Considering the very first chapter of their history is an apocalyptic genocidal war that came a hair's breadth from driving everyone involved to extinction, is it really that surprising their concept of morality is different? I mean for petes sake, their most strictly enforced law exists not because it's moral, but because they don't want to get dragged into wars.

actually, that applies to the setting they come from as a whole. no two species there think the same way, and human morality is the exception not the rule. it's one of the reasons the frontier worlds are such a mess, nobody's quite sure who's rulebook they're supposed to be playing from. if you were to defeat an anraki in combat, and you didn't immediately kill them and take part of them as a trophy their entire clan would hunt you for the rest of their lives (or the rest of yours if that's shorter) over the insult. Roka don't understand what an individual is no matter how much the rest of the aliance has tried to beat the concept into their heads, and treat people a disposable tools. Kaal have a skewed concept of death due to their parasitic nature and constant changing of bodies, and dont have any real 'rules' to how they conduct warfare. aieth view eye contact, observation, and certain physical gestures equivalent to threats of imminent violence. etc.
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That’s another reason I’m looking forward to this argument. Neither one’s viewpoint is wrong for the society they come from, but is completely wrong for the others society. If Talbor (I know that’s incorrect, but calling the combined form of Kobor and Talya Kobor just makes things confusing) were to express some of their opinions on Concertia, they’d get all sorts of nasty terms assigned to them. The heroes especially wouldn’t like how they make themselves forget all the killing they’ve done, since that’s (at least to them) just a cowardly way of avoiding the consequences of their actions.
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I understand it, Tatiana may understand it but not really care, "That's a you problem" and such. Heck it may very well lessen her view of their entire species, for either not destroying their enemy totally in a war long ago or by not evolving past that first chapter in some way. And yeah, she dislikes the turning off brain part too, both because the likelihood of that making them a liability or even a threat, as well as she doesn't like the idea of turning ones brain off to take a life. But I think the biggest reason why she'd have a lower opinion of them may very well come from Tatiana being an ex merc and whats she's learned in her time of being one: She wouldn't know if the Twins would be an unreliable narrator or not, granted she'd probably just take them as self righteous idiots who very likely follow a "We cant be wrong because we're right!" type of thought process anyway. I think she just wouldn't hear them out, not caring for the excuses or justifications towards their actions. Besides, I think Tatiana believes actions speak louder than words, and almost mauling someone they were meant to protect would speak louder than any history lesson they'd try to throw Tatiana's way. (ramble ramble ramble)
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Ok, so I should probably explain how The Lycan's fight will go.

The objective is to escape the Lycan's "house of horror" for lack of a better term. The area has three rooms which you go to in order. Each room is dimly lit and full of traps. Running into a trap results in an instant KO. There will be clues as to where traps are, but sometimes you must inspect an important object to find such clues. In each room, a key to the next one is hidden. Part of the point of this match is to use problem solving when your opponent isn't something that can be fought. Some of your powers will thus trigger traps resulting in negative consequences, usually an instant KO. Specifically, attempting to use a power to bypass a mechanic will trigger a trap. For example, attempting to use a power to locate and/or attack The Lycan will trigger a trap. Attempting to force the door down will cause the lights to flicker out for a turn, resulting in a randomly selected character being eliminated.

There are a LOT of hazards to this. It's likely going to be the hardest "fight" you guys have had.

These are some of the things that can instant-KO you:
Triggering a trap
Seperating from the group
Moving or being dragged into the darkness
Attempting to subvert the mechanics of this fight.

As an added difficulty, the lights in the room are dim, lighting only a part of it. These lights are about to go out. You have 5 turns in the first room, 4 in the second, and 3 in the final room. If you run out of time, the lights will die and every turn from there on out one person will randomly be eliminated.

The initial description of an object in the room might not contain clues to whether or not it has a trap on it. If you want to inspect an object, include the term inspect and the object name. The key to the next room will be hidden in or around these objects.

These are the mechanics I have so far. Thoughts?
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So, we've done a genre shift from brawler to point n' click...

Making my options either break character or get eliminated on the first turn. She's a miner, not a lorekeeper.

Wheeeeeeeeeeee...
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Ooh a genre change. Interesting.
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I don't want things to get monotonous. I want to try shifting up the mechanics so things don't seem too routine. Normally things will be brawler or fighter style, but the Lycan isn't a direct fighter. He's a horror monster. As such, his fight will have considerably different mechanics.
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”You know, after I got my eyes frozen during the last session, I was hoping for something a bit more simple. Not this impossible horror movie shenanigans.”
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I can already tell, this isn't going to be a well liked match, is it...

I just thought that a brief change of pace would be good for a long-term game like this. It isn't like this is going to be the new norm, it's just for the Lycan's fight.

Buster, the group will be warned about the presence of traps. Do you think Kol can be careful if she's specifically told to be?
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it's not so much an issue of carelessness, as more an issue of her default response being "brute force it until something works" unless they're relatively straight forward, related to proper tunnel-home carving techniques, or to do with identifying minrals/metals, she won't know what to make of the clues. More than likely will just go with gut instinct on everything, or trial and error. something that's a recipe for LOADS of wasted time and failed attempts in this kind of setup.

Kol may be average intelligence, but that's average by 1600s standards, not modern, or future standards. She has the capacity, but not the educational foundation or the common knowledge.
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Sana's more of a computer operative than a physical world one. Which is why she's pulling every cliche in the book whilst tailing Hive and Hanna. If she'd planned it, she'd have a trenchcoat on.

ANd, now she's used it, here's Cherry.

Character Name: Cherry Seena

Codename: Ears

Color: This

Type: Secondary

Species/Breed: Rat

Age: 23 human years 

Neighborhood: Beacon Of Hope (Formerly STEELHAVEN)

Powers: Seena was the communications specialist on STEELHAVEN and her power has tapped into this in an unusual way. She has the power to communicate with anyone, even at extreme distance, her voice coming across in their head like a telepath. But there is a difference. She needs a radio for her part of the conversation. Provided the other person concentrates or uses a radio of their own, she ‘hears’ their reply over the speakers of the radio, along with everyone else who can hear the speakers. To her added confusion, if she’s on board the STEELHAVEN at the time or using one of their comm devices, she can connect to communications stations in that universe, enabling her to contact home.

Weakness: She has no offensive powers. Her power only works through a radio system which is why the testers had trouble isolating it.

Appearance: Blackfurred and with a dynamic physique, Cherry Seena wears a standard uniform for her rank and looks like many other Ensigns. She has a streak of white fur on each of her shoulders thanks to dye. Currently in a chair after the arrival in the Hope Universe.

Personality: Her people are known as thieves and conmasters. Cherry Seena wants to be better than that. She had plans to rise up the ranks and maybe even be Captain one day. She’s quietly professional and is proudly not a credit to her species in her Familys’ eyes. She will be going through some morning sickness...

Other notes: She can pilot a ship if need be as there was a redundancy system on the HAVEN that meant she occasionally had to control the helm. Currently dating Doctor Colorado VanDerBilt and is a few days pregnant by the same. They’re moving in together.


S.P.E.C.I.A.L stats: 
- Strength: 3
- Perception: 8
- Endurance: 5
- Charisma: 7
- Intelligence: 8
- Agility: 4
- Luck: 7
- Power: 4[/
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Oh boy the round has begun!

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Did someone call for creepy music?
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And we have our first person eliminated. It wasn't who I was expecting it would be, honestly.
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I was honestly betting on Kol, with either Ulrich or Kolt being a distant second.
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Huh...and here i thought i was going to step on a tripwire or something...
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Kol didn't take any actual actions that would result in triggering any traps yet. I think. She hasn't done anything since the match started. You can't trigger a trap if you haven't done anything to trigger a trap.
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Moving can trigger a trap.
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right off the bat she made a beeline for the desk, before the others were even in the room.
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Yes, but:

1) the match hadn't started yet
2) Kol didn't actually interact with the desk, only moved toward it. Then Tatiana urged her to show caution, and nothing happened after. I'm not even sure if she reached the desk or not.
3) A trap, if there is one, would be triggered by the interaction with the trapped item.
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kay
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Aaaand, there ya go.
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There's 3 by the way. Traci, Tatiana and Ulrich.
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Didn’t think Traci was in there. Fixed.
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While I appreciate not spamming me with inspection requests at work, might want to quickly and carefully start inspecting things again. There is a time limit.
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It’s kinda sad that Kol actively thinks she’s less intelligent than everyone else here.
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to be fair, she's basically a caveman on the Enterprise. It's not hard to jump to that conclusion.
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I need to change Seena's colour. It's identical to Jennys and it's gonna get confusing. color=#FF40BF How's about this one?
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That’s good. I did the same thing for Liz.
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You know it isn't year 3050 in the Steelhaven Universe right? It's 3050 in the BoH universe but since it's been less than a day since the crash it would still probably be year 3000 in SH.
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Well we’ve been operating under faulty assumptions. I guess the BOH universe adopted the calendar before the Steelhaven universe.
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It isn't so much that... I can explain the technicalities of it later after work.
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So they just think 50 years have passed. It's understandable.
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It is understandable. So here is the unnecessarily complicated explanation of inter-universal travel:

The universes in the multiverse are normally asynchronous. They don't interact, they don't depend on each other, and they don't have to all be happening at the same time. In fact, all points in time in all timelines are already there, with each possible past, present, and future all existing on branching timelines.

Because these timelines are asynchronous, someone can travel from one point on one timeline to a different point on a different timeline. For example, they can travel from year 3000 in the Steelhaven Universe to year 3050 in the Beacon Universe. Once they travel however, the universes become synchronized at the two points that interacted, with time going by in a one-to-one ratio. One day passes in one universe, a day passes in the other. While synchronized, travel, communication, and interaction between the universe will be between two set points in the timelines based on how much time has passed since the synchronization. The only way to desynchronize is to send all living travelers back to their respective universes.

Synchronization happens when travel starts, but the traveling objects might end up in stasis for a period of time before actually arriving in the destination universe. However, this period has never been more than a couple years depending on how "far apart" the universes are. As such, it is possible that it isn't exactly year 3000 in the Steelhaven Universe, but it wouldn't be later than 3005.
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Just an FYI, my internet’s being a bit wonky, so I might not be able to post tonight. Feel free to enter the next room without me.
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I might wait until tomorrow to post the description for the next room. Sorry. There are a few things I haven't finalized.

EDIT: Anyone mind if I set the Stasis period to four years? This would mean the current Steelhaven year is 3004.
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I don't mind.
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Did hivemind actually forbid june from any specific activities or was it just a general 'don't push it'? cause i can't remember.
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He said to go have fun. He doesn't mind what June does as long as it isn't something that will trigger her feral mode.
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It should work. As long as she thinks of Lewis...

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I'm not going to post up the Jenny/Garrett conversation. It'll just be general chit-chat anyway...
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