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2017/09/25 – The Shards Thing Again
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Author:  John-056 [ Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:54 pm ]
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Argent Wrote:
EATING it? You want a pet zombie apocalypse? Because that's how you get a pet zombie apocalypse.

How? The only time we've seen a Mana Block in use, was with a Mystic Foci. And merely holding it won't work at all, or that Scientist and Keene would have been instantly empowered.

So I do believe that EATING the Mana Block is one of the Acceptable methods, since there was only two actual ways for Mortals to gain divine power, and that was either direct from Demi-Gods or by Consuming a Mana Block, since, like I've said, and I seem to have to repeat, that we've only seen the Mana Block be used, by a Magical Device, which consumed it instantly.

So why would eating a Mana Block CAUSE a Zombie Apocalypse? How would it cause it? Give me your Answer.

Author:  Argent [ Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:13 pm ]
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Rule of Funny.

Author:  D-Rock [ Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:14 pm ]
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I always thought that the warning not to eat it was because some confused it with the manna that was provided to the Israelites. This mana probably isn't safe to eat.

Author:  GameCobra [ Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:24 pm ]
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I bet it just does something very minor and instead causes little to no effect - like turning your fur color purple.

That would be a twist.

Author:  John-056 [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:21 am ]
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Argent Wrote:
Rule of Funny.

Seriously? That's your Answer? 'Rule of Funny'? I find nothing Funny about it.

That Post I set up before, was meant to be a Serious statement, NOT a Big Joke, like YOU wanted it to be. I was pointing out that Logically, a Mana Block like that, being able to send several people through time at once, if divided, would have actually given the Consumers 'Sparks' like what Tarot and Sabrina already have... And it's implied to have a LOT more in the temple.

And if I pull in logic from many other games and the like, getting a Mana 'Spark', can mean that if Nurtured and Grown, can put them on a level to at least half of a demi-god empowered avatar... But it won't be instantaneous. It would be long, it would be tedious, and it would likely bore a lot of pets into not nurturing it, meaning that the power would go to the next generation... And so on.

Basically, I'm expecting a Lot of Pets to end up having Magical Pups, Kits and Kittens after a few generations... Which would be pretty awesome, if Peanut makes the Wish for the to be spread, if there was an option for it.

So NO, a Pet 'Zombie Apocalypse is NOTHING funny, and completely Illogical, even by Magic standards, since by that so-called "Funny Joke's" 'Logic' Tarot and the others would have become Zombies the moment they used the Mana Brick, since it was given by Pete, and were still effected by the Mana Block's effect, AND Tarot NEVER used the LANTERN UNTIL THEY WERE IN THE PAST. They were unprotected!

Author:  Obbl [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:56 am ]
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Um... people are allowed to joke around. Argent never meant for you to take what he said seriously. If you want serious critique on your idea, you could ask for it, but you're essentially spitballing into an area we have been told very little about aside from Pete's "Don't try eating it, that never ends well" which I'm pretty sure most of us take at face value.

Author:  Buster [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:17 am ]
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It's also entirely possible that in that concentrated solid state it's toxic, (and therefore shouldn't be eaten) and doesn't do anything on its own save for acting as a one-time-use amplifier. that would fit what we've seen in canon to date.

you can discharge a lead acid battery to perform a function without harming yourself, but plug yourself into it and you're in for a nasty shock, eat it and it's pure poison.

Author:  John-056 [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:23 am ]
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Buster Wrote:
It's also entirely possible that in that concentrated solid state it's toxic, (and therefore shouldn't be eaten) and doesn't do anything on its own save for acting as a one-time-use amplifier. That would fit what we've seen in canon to date.

You can discharge a lead acid battery to perform a function without harming yourself, but plug yourself into it and you're in for a nasty shock. Eat it and it's pure poison.

How about trying to make a Soup out of the Mana first? I mean, we have solid food/Soup bricks that taste foul unless mixed with water? In that sense, you said as a 'Concentrated Solid', so that means if we dissolve it via burning or dissolving, it may be consumed safely.

I mean, Pete and Dragon's likely Given Mana to Mortals who weren't Avatars and thus, lack the same mental/Spiritual connection that Avatars have, so there's only two means for it to be safely used. Burning it into a Smoky form and inhaled, like medicial Incense, or dissolved in a liquid and drank down.

That said, it may either taste foul, or it would be a nice flavor. I'm leaning more on the former.

Author:  D-Rock [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:48 am ]
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Calm down.

No need to get so flustered over silly talk regarding a silly comic.

Author:  John-056 [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:55 am ]
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D-Rock Wrote:
Calm down.

No need to get so flustered over silly talk regarding a silly comic.

Ummm... What? Get flustered over what? If you're talking about the Talk with the Mana block, excluding the reactions to Argent's ones, the rest isn't anything to do with being Flustered.

It was just a normal response to someone posting a good response, nothing malicious.

Author:  Buster [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:30 am ]
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The battery analogy I used was deliberate, I suspect it's not meant to be ingested in any way. It's a means of storing an energy form in a physical state. The term mana often gets used in fiction when describing drawing the power used by magic.

Author:  Bandit1990 [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:40 am ]
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I agree with the battery analogy.

That does raise the question of how non-magically attuned individuals are supposed to use it.

Author:  MX682XM [ Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:17 am ]
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Guessing by the note Pete gave Keene and that he have to return to the temple in order to use the mana, I would guess that the temple will grand the wish when they're in it and have mana with them

Author:  NHWestoN [ Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:05 pm ]
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Hey, John-056. Having celestials involved (Breel..sweetheart that he may be) along with Ralph, Spring, and Summer reminds us this quest is still pretty cosmic and potentially dire...

...And I always worry about Sasha, too.

Author:  John-056 [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:49 am ]
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NHWestoN Wrote:
Hey, John-056. Having celestials involved (Breel..sweetheart that he may be) along with Rufus, Spring, and Summer reminds us this quest is still pretty cosmic and potentially dire...

...And I always worry about Sasha, too.

Agreed. What worries me even more, is that the Celestials haven't actually helped... Which is making me leap to ideas that range from ridiclous, to somewhat logical, such as the one I'm putting below:

I mean, Rufus hasn't done a thing since he entered the temple... Great Kitsune is the sole exception, but his proved to be rather detremental.

We haven't seen them help in any fashion, and didn't even provide guidance, which last we saw Rufus back at the Farm, he was more than willing to help when asked, even if a bit unortradox, but here, he never helped once, even when Grape was being mauled by Kobolds... And if I were to think that Rufus considers Peanut and Grape as his Grandcubs by Adoption and ownership, it basically meant he let his grandniece get beaten up without trying to even lift a finger or Foot to get one of them into the fight. I mean, he could have shoved Max into the Fray, but he didn't. Res had to run in.

And Sasha? We don't even know why she's even protected. It's strange for a Demi-god like Great Kitsune to even want to protect a singular Mortal. Why would he need to do that? What is her reason to be protected, when they Let her be abused? What are they planning to do with her?

This is something that gives more Questions than answers. Why do the Celestials need to be Escorted? Why do they hide from the Eyes of Keene's Wolves? What do they intend to do with the Mana when they get there? Is Spring and Summer's attraction to Fox real, or is he a means to an end to them? Why have the Celestials not helped in any fashion, physical or vocally?

Author:  Bandit1990 [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:50 am ]
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I've seen the "Sasha is protected" line brought up a few times, no one's come up with a good guess for what was meant by that. I mean, for all we know it could have just meant that she wasn't involved in the game. It was established that there were rules regarding the protection of mortals.

At this point I'm willing to accept that it was just a line that Pete said that didn't go anywhere.

Author:  NHWestoN [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:33 am ]
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Two quick thoughts, mates....

Rick is REALLY GOOD at going back into his histories and turning them into story threads ... Like Tarot's warning to Sabrina about nearly drowning, a throw away line that becomes a prophecy when she's knocked into the swimming pool at her wedding and Fido has to rescue both her and her groom.

Again, Sarah's protected status may stand in the context of the old adage "the angels look out for fools, drunken men, little boys, and the United States of America", that some being has decreed that the tumultuous life of the gentle, ditsy dog who loves her uncaring "daddy" will endure. King's attack of compassion on that perilously frigid night was certainly fortunate (and funny..."It'll be just like a sleep over except...." ). She's clearly not protected from physical or emotional pain of abuse. So.... who knows? But I do worry about her even so.

As to Pete ....... An out of character gesture of kindness to reward King? Hmmmmmmmm.........

I guess the rules of Celestial-Mortal interactions are pretty fluid, refracted through the Law of Intrinsic Benevolence. Breel reassures Keene Milton, "Nope, can't interfere" ... but that doesn't keep Kitsune from leading Team Nerd into a cosmic white-out to the benefit of Peanut and pals.
And that's enough of me. Regards.

Author:  Bandit1990 [ Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:01 am ]
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I was re-reading through the archive and I was reminded that this is the 2nd time that Tarot has been reminded of her "Shards" prophecy.

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Author:  NHWestoN [ Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:56 am ]
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..... And now we know why Maxwell took the jingler out of his collar bell. It's harder to escape when you're a ding-a-ling.

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