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Sleet
Bringing Foxy Back
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:32 am Posts: 13767 Location: Nephelokokkygia
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
A few things I noticed when re-reading the arc: 1.) If Sasha never had a piano before, then that means that it never was hers, so it was a legitimate gift. Bino gave her a piano and she was still mad? Spoiled dog.  2.) Bino's laying against a pillow and not the back of the piano? Total wasted potential there. 3.) Since animals are sapient and their fingers are more mobile than those of real animals, I wonder if anyone ever arranges pet versions of music to accommodate their lack of a fifth finger.
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IceKitsune
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Posts: 3713 Location: Ohio
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
1.) Technically Sasha gave Bino the Piano as a gift and he gave it back to her that is re-gifting (I'm assuming all the stuff Bino gave her was from her) and since she never used the Piano and it was just a gift for Bino she really never owned it in the first place. 2.) I agree with this 3.) Since they write books for them (or a least publish them I don't think we know if Pridelands was written by a human or not. Do we?) they might. By the way speaking of things that you realize from re-reading Max does know Sasha very well since he was right.  Edit: fixed up sentence Edit 2: Teh Brawler is right its still a re-gift even if it wasn't from Sasha and its still lazy.
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Teh Brawler
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:26 pm Posts: 5133 Images: 2 Location: Someplace with Internet access
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
1.) I'm thinking that she knows that even though the piano wasn't hers, he still had it under his possession for an extended amount of time, meaning that it's a re-gift. 2.)Thirded. 3.) I'm not good with that kind of speculation. 
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44R0NM10
Former Mod of the Aura
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:52 pm Posts: 3852 Location: England
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
My views on this are, as follows: 1. I think it was only because he forgot about her. Even if you did get your girlfriend a great gift, whatdoes it matter if you were pressured into it by eavryone else gifting her? 2. four-ed 3. Makes pefect sense to me!
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Liam
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:25 pm Posts: 1344 Location: BMW-topia
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Seems like Sasha doesn't need such accomodations. Lang Lang got nothing on her!
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ChewyChewy
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:23 pm Posts: 5409
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
I didn't see any evidence that Bino got the piano originally from Sasha--the unicorn, yes, but I don't know about anything else....
Anyway, I haven't seen the most important question being asked--if Sasha never had a piano before, how did she get so good at playing the piano in the first place?
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Teh Brawler
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:26 pm Posts: 5133 Images: 2 Location: Someplace with Internet access
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Ummm.....That's a really good question OH LOOK is that a lampshade?
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IceKitsune
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Posts: 3713 Location: Ohio
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
I'm just going to mark that up to her being a genus of some sort (again I wonder if her talents go beyond just Music or not) I mean she composed the entire sonnet in her head on the way over to the dog house. Plus she said she never owned a piano before not that she had never played one what she meant could have been she never owned one before so that is why Bino never heard her play it because she has never had the chance to in front of him. Edit: Ok technically she said had not owned but my point is still valid
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ChewyChewy
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:23 pm Posts: 5409
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Well, clearly she is a prodigy of some kind, but your explanation doesn't really answer the question. Where did she find a piano to be able to play one and get so good?
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| Sat May 22, 2010 1:10 pm |
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Dissension
Totally Not Rick
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm Posts: 6994 Location: On Your Mind
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
You've never picked up an instrument (or device or whatever implement) for the first time and performed at expert levels?
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ChewyChewy
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:23 pm Posts: 5409
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Not while I was awake, no.
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44R0NM10
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Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:52 pm Posts: 3852 Location: England
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Maybe she owned 'Piano Hero' or something? I'm sure if I picked up a guitar right now, I'd be able to play through the fire and flames easily...
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Dissension
Totally Not Rick
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm Posts: 6994 Location: On Your Mind
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Everyone has neglected to consider that the piano could be automatic, playing itself. *laughs hysterically*
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Sleet
Bringing Foxy Back
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:32 am Posts: 13767 Location: Nephelokokkygia
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
To be fair, that's not a piece that would be too difficult to play (relatively speaking) with four fingers on a hand. At least the part we can see in the comic. I think that's the point of the comic; she's that good. She may be airheaded, but she's evidently some kind of savant. Or maybe she's not even that, she's just an all-around super genius who's obfuscating stupidity.
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IceKitsune
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Posts: 3713 Location: Ohio
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
I really don't know actually that's one huge flaw in my explanation. Well to take a wild guess maybe someone else in the neighborhood had a piano at some point (possibly someone who moved.) and she learned to play there. Of course that is just a wild guess but its the best explanation I can think of right now. I'm going with the idea of her being an all around super-genius. Why you ask because Rick hasn't said other wise.
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Dissension
Totally Not Rick
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm Posts: 6994 Location: On Your Mind
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
It is also entirely possible that Sasha plays the piano so well because she needed to for story purposes.
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IceKitsune
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Posts: 3713 Location: Ohio
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Also very possible but that hasn't happened yet in this comic as far as I can remember so I'm going to say she is really that good on the piano.
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Dissension
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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm Posts: 6994 Location: On Your Mind
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
I concur; just wanted to point out the possibility.
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ChewyChewy
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:23 pm Posts: 5409
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
For some reason I'm thinking that if that were the case there would have been lampshading of this big time....
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Teh Brawler
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:26 pm Posts: 5133 Images: 2 Location: Someplace with Internet access
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
That's what the epilogue will be for. 
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Buckdida
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Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:59 am Posts: 2350 Location: Richardson Valley
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Well, Bino gave her the piano. As for playing so well... Why, the "think system" of course. How else? Seventy-Six trombones caught the morning sun...
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Dr. Prower
Joined: Fri May 21, 2010 10:29 pm Posts: 1446 Location: Here, Back and Better Than Ever!
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GameCobra
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:27 am Posts: 2949 Location: Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
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I picture Peanut more as the wandering Samurai and Maxwell as the hired Ninja.
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Dr. Prower
Joined: Fri May 21, 2010 10:29 pm Posts: 1446 Location: Here, Back and Better Than Ever!
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Okay, let's say it was that. Why would she make herself seem like an airhead? What could she gain from it?
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IceKitsune
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Posts: 3713 Location: Ohio
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
I don't really know but my guess is that she might find it funny to trick people like that. You know to see the look on their faces when they find out she's not such an air head. Or it could be she thinks that if she acts too smart she might alienate everyone around her and she doesn't want to do that. Based on what we do know about her I think its most likely the second one. Edit: fixed spelling
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Dr. Prower
Joined: Fri May 21, 2010 10:29 pm Posts: 1446 Location: Here, Back and Better Than Ever!
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
I'd probably go with the second as well. Sasha seems too nice to play a trick like that.
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Dissension
Totally Not Rick
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm Posts: 6994 Location: On Your Mind
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
This may come as a surprise, but plenty of smart people are just silly and scatterbrained. Sasha hasn't done anything in the comics that would lead me to believe she's not intelligent; the spelling issues could be attributed to excitement over Fido's Triumphant Return and 'Eau de Toilette' is French. French is hard.
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FlintTheSquirrel
Joined: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:30 pm Posts: 2374 Location: Sweden/North Carolina
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
I wonder if everyone forgot that there is another person who owns a Piano, KEYS! Unless it is the same piano, which means that Bino is a no good, dirty thief! But it may have been a gift from Sasha from a while back, can't really tell which one.
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IceKitsune
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Posts: 3713 Location: Ohio
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
I had forgotten about Keys its possible that's were she could have played the piano before and learned how to play. Good thinking Flint Edit: It couldn't have been Key's piano that Bino gave to Sasha because Key's is a electronic key board and Bino gave Sasha an actual Piano even though it was small.
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Indagare
Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 10:35 am Posts: 112
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Sasha says she's never had a piano before, not that she's never played a piano before. For all we know her 'father' could have had her learn the piano in another failed attempt to impress women.
Personally, I think most (if not all) of her scatter-brained behavior is an act. Let's face it--even if her father isn't directly physically abusive, he's certainly emotionally abusive. And, really, Bino is not much better than her 'father' when it comes to their relationship. I think she's hiding a lot of hurt under that bubbly exterior.
Of course, there's also the possibility she is somehow enchanted and so can't act how we might expect. Pete suggested that she was 'protected' and Fox couldn't find her or King despite looking (and despite the fact that King reeked to high heaven of catnip and nitro). If her protection is magical in nature it might not only extend physically but also mentally so that her mind is compartmentalized and the sections don't always work together well.
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Typhon
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 1:16 am Posts: 1008 Location: In my house. Reading housepets. And organic chemistry.
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It could have been Key's old one..
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IceKitsune
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Posts: 3713 Location: Ohio
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
Ok I agree with you about her being scatter-brained is most likely an act and the fact that she is hiding a lot of hurt by acting as such (and also not to alienate people as I said earlier) but the stuff about the protection being also mental and stuff so her brain is compartmentalized is quite frankly reaching IMO. Also as for the protection being the reason for Fox not being able to find them when he was looking I must admit it is certainly a possibility in fact its a good one. It could have been.
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Sleet
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Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:32 am Posts: 13767 Location: Nephelokokkygia
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
My vote is still for "savant."
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Dissension
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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:42 pm Posts: 6994 Location: On Your Mind
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
I get the feeling you guys are ignoring my input because it doesn't fit with your predefined narrative for Sasha. Being scatterbrained and smart are not mutually exclusive. Sillyness does not equal stupidity.
Sasha hasn't been hiding her intelligence; maybe the other pets have just been like you guys - ignoring the evidence because she's so obviously a doofus.
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IceKitsune
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm Posts: 3713 Location: Ohio
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
It's possible that she really is just scatterbrained and its not an act I'll give you that and what other evidence could we have been ignoring there have been no hints until this arc that she was anything other then what she appeared to be which was an airhead. Edit: Truthfully it doesn't really matter because anything you say is evidence of her being just a scatterbrain I could just as easily say she's acting and vica versa.
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Ebly
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:01 am Posts: 4246 Location: Imagination!
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 Re: Arc 30: The Present
i AM a girl, silly
i think
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ctcmjh
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Ebly
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:01 am Posts: 4246 Location: Imagination!
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actually, i was surprised that you and chewy are guys
i was pointing out more of sasha's silliness have you guys already forgotten two comics ago?
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ctcmjh
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I get that a lot here... And does that mean you're not a girl, or are you?
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Ebly
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i could have a lot of fun with this, but i really don't think i'm feminine enough to pull off androgyny
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