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Title Text: Sorry about that, here have a Lifesaver™

And this is why I like Keene :D

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Crash? Drowning? Ferretone Overdose? The suspense is killi... oh nevermind.


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So how did Keene die?

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That's one of the questions, yes!

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So... car crash? Maybe too much orange soda?

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Well, sometimes you can´t live in your ideal world... But you must fight for it

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...that's surprisingly peaceful. Lack of sleep, stress, both? Really want to see what happens next!

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cardiac arrest, maybe because of pulseless electrical activity?


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Man the worst thing about all this is that I have no idea how to update the wikia, all we're getting are fragments and unanswered questions!

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Middle head is not amused

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So, the room of recall does not clarify the situation. He just fell dead without apparent reason.

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bjchan95 Wrote:
Man the worst thing about all this is that I have no idea how to update the wikia, all we're getting are fragments and unanswered questions!

Doesn't make for an entertaining/amusing/emotional arc if it was wrapped up immediately. We have a long wait for this one to be over. Simply wait for concrete stuff as it comes in, like events we've just confirmed, or wait for the whole arc to finish.

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Left knows right didn't console him
as Cerberus pulls Keene from the pond;
dragging him back from the mundane
and returning him to the beyond.
Keene fell, it seems, during the fight
as reality becomes crystal clear.
It takes decades to change the law;
it takes decades to overcome fear.
Fear of losing human status;
Fear we'll not be top of the crop.
Exhaustion finishes the fighter
Exhaustion makes the hero drop.

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So it's essentially confirmed, he DID die for no reason at all.

Entropy indeed. XD


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So it's essentially confirmed, he DID die for no reason at all.

Entropy indeed. XD

Personally, I see a reason. Exhaustion IS a reason.

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Yes, a fatigued body will eventually give out. Exhaustion is my speculative cause of death.

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Seems a bit unclear whether this is when he died or if Cerberus pulled him out too soon. He could have just actually been sleepy.

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I see what you did there Cerberus. ;)

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Possibly old age? I've never thought of Keene as old, but as I think about it, don't smaller animals in this world age 7.5 years for every year? That'd be over 50 years of aging in the time since the ferrets were introduced in 2009.

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Are we sure this is meant to be the way he died? Looks for me more like "your unfinished business" kind of thing P=


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I could see an ending where Keene ends up not being dead, but he has to take a step back from his business life cause the amount of stress he is handling

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Methinks now Keene needs A LOT of hugs

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I'm still hoping that this is all some kind of divine trick and that Keene is in fact, still alive. Heck, he never even had a chance to use that mana that Pete gave him (although would that even still be good, after what happened on that front?).

But more critically, with Keene being the primary legal and intellectual drive behind the Milton estate, just how much would be undone, and fall apart, if Keene were to ever actually die? His is a unique position, and there really isn't anyone else with the ability or will to pick up where he left off.
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Hm, maybe...maybe that's the very point that’s going to be made...


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You're all wrong. Boredom is clearly what did him in. It just had a late onset.

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Whatever happens I need more Breel and Keene. So adorable.

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dakaggo Wrote:
Whatever happens I need more Breel and Keene. So adorable.

Yes! We definitely need more of those two :D

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I'm still hoping that this is all some kind of divine trick and that Keene is in fact, still alive. Heck, he never even had a chance to use that mana that Pete gave him (although would that even still be good, after what happened on that front?).

But more critically, with Keene being the primary legal and intellectual drive behind the Milton estate, just how much would be undone, and fall apart, if Keene were to ever actually die? His is a unique position, and there really isn't anyone else with the ability or will to pick up where he left off.
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Hm, maybe...maybe that's the very point that’s going to be made...


The mana was used by Tarot and Sabrina when they tried to teleport Satau back to his time, but I agree I also think Keene isn't really dead. I still think it's an out of body experience. Maybe he is in a coma right now?

I could think that he will learn to also rely on his sibling and not do everything alone, because they're more competent than everyone thinks. That could be a possibility.


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The mana was used by Tarot and Sabrina when they tried to teleport Satau back to his time, but I agree I also think Keene isn't really dead. I still think it's an out of body experience. Maybe he is in a coma right now?

I could think that he will learn to also rely on his sibling and not do everything alone, because they're more competent than everyone thinks. That could be a possibility.


Ah, I'd completely forgotten about them using it to power the lantern. Alright.

But yeah, that's about what I was thinking too. Keene learning to take better care of himself, and to get his siblings more involved in his work precisely so that everything isn't all riding on his shoulders alone.


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HundKatzeMaus Wrote:
The mana was used by Tarot and Sabrina when they tried to teleport Satau back to his time, but I agree I also think Keene isn't really dead. I still think it's an out of body experience. Maybe he is in a coma right now?
Sort of an inverted "A Christmas Carol" with Keene having to learn the lesson that you can't just live for other people either? He needs Breel to teach him to have fun?

Also, I'm reminded of this passage from Larry Niven's novel "World of Ptaavs". Charley is a dolphin who wants to join the space colonization effort:

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"Givvv me ti', givvv me ti'," Charley mimicked. "First Larrry, then 'Arrnerr. Time is all we get. Do they want the stars all for themselves?"

"I think you underrate them," said the older dolphin.

"Surely there's room for both of us on any world." Charley hadn't been listening. "They practically didn't know we were here until a short time ago. We could be useful, I know we could."

"Why shouldn't they have time? Do you know how much time they themselves needed?"

"What do you mean?"

"The first walker story about a trip to the moon is thousands of years old. They didn't get there until a hundred and fifty years ago. Have a little patience," said the one with the worn teeth and the scarred jaw.

"I don't have thousands of years. Must I spend my life looking at the sky until my eyes dry out?"

"You wouldn't be the first. Not even the first swimmer."
When I read that, in the '70s, it seemed like we might have space colonies in my lifetime. Doesn't seem so likely any more.

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It's entirely possible he's in limbo from exhaustion, but this comic here is likely the strongest foreshadowed moment: He could've been in a car accident.

Now we just have to see if he'll wake up. If he does, he'll likely have a new goal in mind. Give the fortune to someone else? =3

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That settles it, Keene died because of a paradox. :lol:

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Wait, you can drown in heaven?


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dakaggo Wrote:
Whatever happens I need more Breel and Keene. So adorable.

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I agree with this as well. We need more of that.


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I think that Cerberus pulled him out before he got to the memory of his death, or whatever.

But yeah, he was living a pretty stressful life for a domesticated ferret. Couldn't have been good for his blood pressure.

Although, even if he died in his sleep that doesn't explain why Cerberus didn't remember bringing him to Heaven.


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Although, even if he died in his sleep that doesn't explain why Cerberus didn't remember bringing him to Heaven.

Maybe Cerberus didn't do it.
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Did someone POISON him?!


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dakaggo Wrote:
Whatever happens I need more Breel and Keene. So adorable.

(I may have made an account to post this >_> )


I agree with this as well. We need more of that.


In all honesty, it kind of makes me uncomfortable. The idea of romance between unwed individuals in heaven just feels wrong to me. I don't want to start any argument - I just want to voice my concern.

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plot twist breel was driving and crashed killing keene and himself

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I know I may be the only person who feels this way, but I do hope Keene actually died. I know that sounds horrible, but hear me out. I hate when authors make a drastic change, only to hit the cosmic reset button at the end. It plays with the audience's emotions, and wastes time. Keene dying shows Rick isn't afraid to make a huge change and deal with the consequences.

Plus it would be kind of cool to see someone visiting heaven that actually got to stay, for a change.


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plot twist breel was driving and crashed killing keene and himself


:lol: that'd make for a great story arc, but I think he just overheated in the car...

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