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Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:30 pm
by Teh Brawler
Buckdida wrote:And for others, it can be good practice and a venue for feedback and criticism for improving.
This is really why I write fanfics. It helps me practice writing, and I enjoy it.

Also, Two_Twig, I was referring to our little "discussion" in the poll thread.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:34 pm
by Esquire Fox
Woah, hold up.
By drawing Fanart I break copyright laws?
I'd better start parodying instead then :?.

Grape can be Lemon cause she's often sour about everything,
And peanut can be...

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:02 pm
by machchunk
Buckdida wrote:Nah, most fanfiction is copyright infringement, because most fanfiction is not written as parody, just badly written, and then they use fair use after the fact to cover their behinds.

The point of fair use is for people to express opinion without fear of being censored by the author. For example:

1. Reviews (this is the big one for fair use)
2. Classroom use (for teaching)
3. Parody
4. Research

In addition, such stuff under fair use really shouldn't benefit the person who created it under fair use. The intent of the person matters too. They can say it's parody, but unless it is evident that it clearly is, it's really not.

When a person writes a fanfiction, they mainly do it for (as so the comic says) their own indulgences. People often write fanfiction based on what they want to happen, and forget the canon. That's not really making fun of something to provide your own commentary or humor. Parody, honestly, is more supposed to protect political cartoonists (and the occasional good flash movie).

So. Most fanfiction, or fanart for that matter, would be considered copyright infringement, and are not protected by fair use. However, in reality, not only would it take a team of people to keep all of it down, it would be bad publicity for the author, and many authors can actually find such things flattering...depending on the person's intent, of course.

So fanfiction gets on by, unless the author finds it and really hates it for reasons of his/her own. Good thing, too, because there actually are good fanfics that really stand out. Like Sinder and Dean's stuff. And Twiggy's stuff. And for others, it can be good practice and a venue for feedback and criticism for improving.
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Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:54 pm
by metaecho
so fanart isnt a good thing? aw... there goes my "grape in OZ" idea... <silly spoiler, black-out is for sensors.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:32 pm
by Buckdida
metaecho wrote:so fanart isnt a good thing? aw... there goes my "grape in OZ" idea... <silly spoiler, black-out is for sensors.
Depends on what you're drawing, really. If you're drawing or writing something that would anger the creator of the original content, you can bet it's going down.

However, there can also be plenty of fanart that is awesome and that the author likes and finds flattering or cool, cute, or funny. It really depends on the author in question.
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Anyway, what about Marvin's reaction in the first panel? Is that commentary on the state of newspapers? A lot of them are going out of business these days, or switching to online reporting, as far as I know.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:35 pm
by ChewyChewy
Buckdida wrote:Anyway, what about Marvin's reaction in the first panel? Is that commentary on the state of newspapers? A lot of them are going out of business these days, or switching to online reporting, as far as I know.
Heh, I just took it that they're pets, and you know how pets regard newspapers.... :P Of course, that's just my hypothesis....

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:02 pm
by Sleet
Speaking of newspapers, is the headline a reference or is it just something silly? If it is a reference, could anyone please explain it?

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:24 pm
by Buckdida
Sleet wrote:Speaking of newspapers, is the headline a reference or is it just something silly? If it is a reference, could anyone please explain it?
Both. As for the reference, I don't want to...explain the joke. You're never supposed to explain the joke. Muuuhahahaha.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:36 pm
by Sleet
But you want to keep all your blood, yes? Then please explain the joke. *puppy eyes*

A ruined joke is just as bad as an un-gotten joke.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:40 pm
by FlintTheSquirrel
But at the same time, it ruins it for the people who do understand it, not that I do or anything.
But when it comes to his expression towards the newspaper, I just take it that Tiger don't read much if at all, and it sure is a weird thing to start back by reading a newspaper.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:55 pm
by Sleet
But those who get it already laughed! It doesn't retroactively remove the humor from your experience.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:58 pm
by FlintTheSquirrel
True enough..... Buckdida, tell us the truth, stop hiding your secrets from us! D:

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:28 pm
by Flamboyant-Pencil
There's spoiler tags for a reason Buck >8c

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:40 pm
by Dissension
[Don't Explain the Joke].

Interestingly, I had an interview today that stressed newspaper writing skills. "I know you can edit video and do all this other broadcasting stuff. I know you can write broadcast style. Those matter less than being able to write in print style."

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:51 pm
by rickgriffin
Okay okay, guys, It's a reference to Foxtrot; whenever Amend has a newspaper in his comic the headline will be "Cartoonist [does something prestigious, not necessarily related to cartooning]"

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:42 pm
by Sleet
Huh. I did not know that, and I really like Foxtrot.

...Wait, now Tiger and Friends are referencing Foxtrot too? Will the madness never end?!

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:27 pm
by ReCreate
Sleet wrote:Huh. I did not know that, and I really like Foxtrot.

...Wait, now Tiger and Friends are referencing Foxtrot too? Will the madness never end?!
No, THIS IS SP-

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:03 am
by Sinder
he's named killbody because he's dead now

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:05 am
by IceKitsune
Sinder wrote:he's named killbody because he's dead now
Actually I think its a parody of Peabody from Rocky and Bullwinkle

Edit: You know what its both

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:06 am
by ChewyChewy
Wait...is this a one-off...? It doesn't say.... (EDIT: Never mind....)

And I'm guessing that guy falling and screaming in the background is Killbody from three seconds in the future.... Take that, "Doc" Emmet L. Brown! :P

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:11 am
by Sleet
The last panel reminds me of way back when in the Pokémon cartoon where there was Sabrina's dad and he always teleported everyone else several feet above the ground. Also, does it count as murder/suicide if your past self is still intact to become your current self? Especially if the butterfly effect leads you to not kill yourself in the past again?
Sinder wrote:he's named killbody because he's dead now
Mo' like Deadbody.

Mo' like ka-boom course.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:16 am
by ChewyChewy
For the last time, Killbody, it's "Diagon Alley," not "Diagonally"! :P

(Sorry, had to throw that in there.... :oops: )

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:27 am
by Dissension
At least this villain was courteous enough to eliminate himself. Also, self-correcting time paradoxes are the best time paradoxes.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:42 am
by valerio
I
Need
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for
TRANSLATION!

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:32 am
by Buckdida
ReCreate wrote:
Sleet wrote:Huh. I did not know that, and I really like Foxtrot.
...Wait, now Tiger and Friends are referencing Foxtrot too? Will the madness never end?!
No, THIS IS SP-
Poor fellow was interrupted by a fish slap that sent him to the moon. Oh well~

PHYSICS! Kids, make sure you understand your basic time-space theory and quantum mechanics before building your own backyard time machine! Remember kids, preparation is half the safety, and a welding mask and thick gloves are the other! Also a bomb shelter in case your nuclear core messes up. And when first testing your machine, be sure to send in a willing test monkey Who's signed all the necessary release forms before trying it for fun yourself!

You don't want to be like Doctor Killbody, do you?

*drops trout*

...Uh, where did that come from?

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:37 am
by Dissension
Would anyone else like to see more characterization for the Spot (Superdog) character "The Cyborg?"

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:29 am
by Foldo
valerio wrote:I
Need
BLANK
for
TRANSLATION!
I work on that... :mrgreen:

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:02 am
by GameCobra
Spot's universe is more green than ever now!

And Physics aren't so scary...

*walks into time machine*
*...looks at the forums*

...Who is griffinrick?

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:52 am
by Kyderra
valerio wrote:I
Need
BLANK
for
TRANSLATION!
hang on i just woke up...

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:56 am
by valerio
by now you should be able to do that in your sleep, with a hand tied to the ceiling and ants crawling up your legs :mrgreen:

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 6:07 am
by Kyderra
valerio wrote:by now you should be able to do that in your sleep, with a hand tied to the ceiling and ants crawling up your legs :mrgreen:
actually , I made a automated script kinda like that of Rick's where it just auto generates all the panels with the press of a button.

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 6:25 am
by valerio
I forgot to tell you! If possible, blank out ONLY what's in the baloons, since I don't have the tools for any 'special effect' in the rest of the comic.
Thank you!

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:10 am
by Liam
Silly Doctor, don't you know you need five more people to operate it properly?

*worries that the ref's too obscure*

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:45 am
by Dylan
GAH! Don't people know that going back in time is impossible! You can only go forward in time!

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:58 am
by valerio
Tell that to SPOT (Professor/Superdog): it takes spinning!

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:16 am
by Dylan
Maybe he spins so fast that he opens a wormhole and he somehow reverses a wormholes normal spin for "past"

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:30 am
by GameCobra
If you don't spin fast enough, you can't control it.

clearly spot knows his stuff. you don't mess with the earth, the king of spin! since it spinned so fast it was three seconds ahead of where he fell!

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:44 am
by valerio
all this stuff is making my head spinning. I'm starting to think retro. :shock:

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 9:42 am
by Liam
Spot spins so fast that his mass increases exponentially, thus bringing local spacetime to rotate itself and creating a Gödel metric which enables him to travel back in time via a closed timelike curve.

IT'S SCIENCE!

Re: Comic Discussion: One-offs set #11

Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 9:48 am
by Kyderra
I have a theory is that it's physical possible to trip over your own foot if you run around your house table at the speed of light.