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That's right, I keep forgetting that they are cousins, not brother/sister.

And...I just read the alt text, so I now realize Joel's Dad is still alive. Poor guy must wonder where his son disappeared to. Unless of course he's an Expy of Sasha's Dad.


I know this sounds a little dark, but there is a possibility that Joel's dad is in hell....

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Loved it .. and the line out of a filk song that I have on tape, yes cassette tape and cd.. I am misquoting "that a mans dreams should exceed his grasp , for whats a heaven for??"


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To add to the above, I should point out that it's by no means just here, sir. It's with other strips as well. Take ENDTOWN, for example. Most of the characters have many fans but there is one with virtually no fans and a lot of haters. Aaron Marx. A near-cosmically powered jerk with a strange sense of humour and an annoying habit of dropping characters right in it because it'll turn out right in the long run. It seems to be a general thing that even the entertaining jerk with cosmic powers is VITAL for plot but annoys readers somewhat.
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I note a lot less people hate Dragon. She has a warmth he lacks.
Not me. I consider emotional manipulation to be just as bad as the abuse Pete gave King. But neither of them make me want to quit reading. Also it's pretty well stated that they're immature hooligans, rather than mysteriously doing it for unexplained reasons. I'm not a huge fan of the cosmic game overall and I get annoyed with the characters sometimes, but I still like Housepets! a lot!


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There really is now way to adequately prepare for this particular conversation is there? "So... uh, which explanation do you want to hear first Mom?"

In all honesty though this is a very sweet scene and is especially heartwarming considering King apparently did not come from a very happy household.


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Yet another beautiful moment, great strip! :D The sort of sadness in it is well covered by the happiness of the meeting, with a touch of amusing. :)
What a nice special feeling in Fox, it's because of the joy of this place. :D Funny embarrassment, you could aspect that, King. ;) I would say that Joel's mom knows what happened to the son because she can watch and follow him from up in the skies, and so she hasn't always watched nice things happening to him... Good that Joel's mom succeeded to go here, though, despite her harsh treating of the family pets, if it's really true... So curious to know what's the father's bet, maybe it's about Joel's work at PETA... Also wondering what can be Joel's actual age.
This Heaven is for all the form of creatures, a place better than Earth, the best piece of the HP! universe. ;)

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*I* wonder how they both just happened to run into their mothers inside of an infinite space within moments of each other


I'm guessing heaven just grants people whatever is on their mind whenever it's possible. Therefore when Fox remembers growing up in a barn, his mother appears, when Joel remarks on how sweet and embarrassing seeing Fox meet his mother, his mother appears.

I agree with this. It's enough use mind and memories to see materialized anything in a place that's a realm of the mind. ;) Concerning people and animals, they have to be already passed away and stay in Heaven, sadly and obviously.

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If I seem to remember correctly, Joel's parents were abusive to him and his pets. So I a little surprised to see his mother in Heaven.


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I supposed the real question is... How did she know it was Joel?

I wonder how she knew it was Joel as well.


*I* wonder how they both just happened to run into their mothers inside of an infinite space within moments of each other


Subjective time perhaps? Or the whole thing's been an illusion by Team Dragon to keep Joel and Fox distracted during the match?


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If I seem to remember correctly, Joel's parents were abusive to him and his pets. So I a little surprised to see his mother in Heaven.


I mentioned this on page 2 of the thread, as well. I think the going theory seems to be that his pets, being cruel and unsavory, might have exaggerated just how abused they were by his parents. It's technically possible that Joel himself lied, but that is simply not in his character. He's grumpy and holds a grudge for too long at times, but he is usually honest about his feelings unless he has a ****** good reason to keep them to himself (such as with Fox).

It leads me to wonder just where exactly his former pets are.


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If I seem to remember correctly, Joel's parents were abusive to him and his pets. So I a little surprised to see his mother in Heaven.


I mentioned this on page 2 of the thread, as well. I think the going theory seems to be that his pets, being cruel and unsavory, might have exaggerated just how abused they were by his parents. It's technically possible that Joel himself lied, but that is simply not in his character. He's grumpy and holds a grudge for too long at times, but he is usually honest about his feelings unless he has a damned good reason to keep them to himself (such as with Fox).

It leads me to wonder just where exactly his former pets are.

Well since Joel was little at the time, it could be that his memory warped into something worse than it actually was.

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I've just realized something, what if the bet was Joel would be dead before his time?

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Subjective time perhaps? Or the whole thing's been an illusion by Team Dragon to keep Joel and Fox distracted during the match?


Dragon doesn't seem the type to do something that manipulative in order to win. Pete is jerky enough to do something like that, but Dragon's too nice to do that.


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It leads me to wonder just where exactly his former pets are.
Reincarnated as cows?

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It leads me to wonder just where exactly his former pets are.
Reincarnated as cows?


Or one of them as a mouse with an eyepatch?


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WhoElseButQuagmire Wrote:
Subjective time perhaps? Or the whole thing's been an illusion by Team Dragon to keep Joel and Fox distracted during the match?


Dragon doesn't seem the type to do something that manipulative in order to win. Pete is jerky enough to do something like that, but Dragon's too nice to do that.


Dragon is no saint, either. Look at all the lengths she went through to try to get Peanut's affections.


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Post Re: 2014/06/23 - One Person You Meet In Heaven
It's a little secret,
Just the Robinson's affair;
Their Joel was returned to them
A little worse for wear.

His parents were distraught
Said some things they might regret,
And you know it isn't easy
Being kidnapped by one's pet.

Coo coo ca-choo, Mrs. Robinson,
What wager did you make?
We do know its fruition
Did not precede your wake.

It won't make her happy
And it won't make her rich,
Her husband said, "Bet that boy grows up
A little son of a --"
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Dragon is no saint, either. Look at all the lengths she went through to try to get Peanut's affections.
Not to mention why she was getting Tarot and Peanut together in the first place.

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Dragon is no saint, either. Look at all the lengths she went through to try to get Peanut's affections.
Not to mention why she was getting Tarot and Peanut together in the first place.

All true but, don't forget, she's playing 'outside the rule book' here. They've indicated that they see love as 'beneath them', but she's learning the rules by making the wrong choices in how she goes about it. She encouraged Tarot to get close and merely watched, accompanying Tarot on the journey. By the time she realized she was in love with Peanut too, it was too late. She'll get better at it in time. Say another 5000 years...

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I just noticed that King is wearing his ring.


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I just noticed that King is wearing his ring.


Why wouldn't he be wearing his ring?

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Heaven must be the largest and most awkward social gathering in all of the universe. :lol:
And let's not forget "hey, I read your book and--"
"Oh, another one. Yes, I know I got the protrayal wrong, yes I know science does not work like that. Yes I know things changed more than I predicted. What else could you possibly point out?"
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I supposed the real question is... How did she know it was Joel?
Because "heaven is a realm of the mind" and all that. Should be no different than when you read "She saw Joel walkin down the gold street. Joel was now a dog."

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...or the whole thing's been an illusion by Team Dragon to keep Joel and Fox distracted during the match?
If it's an illusion, including Cerberus would not have been necessary, as King and Fox don't know she's part of heaven, and in fact would be more likely to accept a non-three-headed The Messenger (assuming Housepets-world lore updates on a similar basis as it does here on Earth)

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It leads me to wonder just where exactly his former pets are.
Reincarnated as cows?

We'll have no mooore of that, please.

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It leads me to wonder just where exactly his former pets are.
Reincarnated as cows?


Or one of them as a mouse with an eyepatch?

Viva la Revolucion!

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I supposed the real question is... How did she know it was Joel?
Because "heaven is a realm of the mind" and all that. Should be no different than when you read "She saw Joel walkin down the gold street. Joel was now a dog."


I keep telling you it's scent! She could smell him coming from miles away! 8-)

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How King manages to explain his double life still amazes me. He did manage to convince Fox though, so his mother shouldn't be much of a challenge, even moreso now that she recognizes him.

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I keep telling you it's scent! She could smell him coming from miles away! 8-)


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To add to the above, I should point out that it's by no means just here, sir. It's with other strips as well. Take ENDTOWN, for example. Most of the characters have many fans but there is one with virtually no fans and a lot of haters. Aaron Marx. A near-cosmically powered jerk with a strange sense of humour and an annoying habit of dropping characters right in it because it'll turn out right in the long run. It seems to be a general thing that even the entertaining jerk with cosmic powers is VITAL for plot but annoys readers somewhat.

I note a lot less people hate Dragon. She has a warmth he lacks.

Hey, I love Aaron Marx's all-problem-solving happy-go-luckyness and thoroughly dislike the dragon!

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How did she know it was Joel?

At this point I am operating on the assumption that the denizens of Hp heaven have some form of identity sense for these things, including on people met before they came to heaven.
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And...I just read the alt text, so I now realize Joel's Dad is still alive. Poor guy must wonder where his son disappeared to. Unless of course he's an Expy of Sasha's Dad.

Given that we don't know if King and Sasha's dad have actually met, one of my thoughts on this was of their fathers potentially being the same person, regardless of the improbability of it.
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How did she know it was Joel?

At this point I am operating on the assumption that the denizens of Hp heaven have some form of identity sense for these things, including on people met before they came to heaven.
It's like SL.

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WhoElseButQuagmire Wrote:
And...I just read the alt text, so I now realize Joel's Dad is still alive. Poor guy must wonder where his son disappeared to. Unless of course he's an Expy of Sasha's Dad.

Given that we don't know if King and Sasha's dad have actually met, one of my thoughts on this was of their fathers potentially being the same person, regardless of the improbability of it.


Huh..I never even considered that. If Pete had influenced Joel and his partner to go to Babylon Gardens to kidnap a dog in the first place, it might not be all that improbable at all.....


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This could be one of the most touching comics to date. I'm not sure how intentional it was, but I REALLY feel for Fox here.


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The comic does not take place in real time, so Peanut is still close-ish to the same age as he always was. ;)
It tracks real time pretty closely, particularly with Christmas lining up.


Individual arcs definitely happen in "comic time", but the comic as a whole seems to run right around real time. This part of "Heaven's Not Enough", where King and Fox are visiting Heaven, seems to pass approximately in real time (for example, just a few strips after this one, King is surprised to learn they'd been there for six months, and in real time they had).

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My interpretation of the bet was it may or may not have been what king guessed, but if it had been what King guessed, then his mother would've lost. His mother was too evasive to give any clues as to what the real bet was, but if you substitute the pronouns out of what she said in the alt text, you get "If you need to believe that you arrived in heaven before your father, yes". The "If you need to believe that" indicates the statement is false and if Joel didn't go to heaven before his father, then Joel's father got to heaven before King and therefor is dead. If both of Joel's parents are dead then that would make him Batman explain why we didn't see any loved ones searching for Joel after he disappeared. Preempting the inevitable discussion about my theory hinging on Joel's father getting into heaven after dying, it's not inconceivable that he would have the same off-screen merits that got his mom into heaven, and we don't see him for the same reason we don't see any other family members such as Fox's dad: the joke would be redundant and waste comic space.

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My interpretation of the bet was it may or may not have been what king guessed, but if it had been what King guessed, then his mother would've lost. His mother was too evasive to give any clues as to what the real bet was, but if you substitute the pronouns out of what she said in the alt text, you get "If you need to believe that you arrived in heaven before your father, yes". The "If you need to believe that" indicates the statement is false and if Joel didn't go to heaven before his father, then Joel's father got to heaven before King and therefor is dead. If both of Joel's parents are dead then that would make him Batman explain why we didn't see any loved ones searching for Joel after he disappeared. Preempting the inevitable discussion about my theory hinging on Joel's father getting into heaven after dying, it's not inconceivable that he would have the same off-screen merits that got his mom into heaven, and we don't see him for the same reason we don't see any other family members such as Fox's dad: the joke would be redundant and waste comic space.

You know, I think Fox’s Mom showing up might have also been to suggest most of the Housepets cast’s biological parents were gone by the time the comic started, with a possible exception to Grape (and Peanut by extension), who even the other kids viewed as a kitten compared to them. That’s kinda a shame though, while it’s for the best that most of the pets feel a familial relationship with their owners, it be neat if we got a sense of how pets in general feel about their biological parents

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Bailey: "We're dogs. We bounce back." But I too wonder about the exchange that might have taken place between Fox and his Mom...


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