One Offs Set #24: Art is a Lie!!

Post by **Sleet** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:59 am

I'm curious as to how British her owner is.

ManaWolf · Post by **ManaWolf** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:06 pm

angelusbr wrote:Duchess is the Great kitsune's avatar!
Yeah, it had to be said.

but, isn't he the DM?

Post by **rickgriffin** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:26 pm

exranio wrote:"Why is every girl dog in this comic dumb except the Pomeranian"

"Why is every [narrow group] in this [work of fiction] [trait] except for [exception]" can probably be an accusation lodged against almost anything

Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:28 pm

why is every human in this comic (mostly)faceless except for Joel?

GameCobra · Post by **GameCobra** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:29 pm

I get this feeling that Duchess and Lester are related. or at least have the same owner.

two things: A) Is Sasha usually outshined by the other she-dogs i wonder? B) Do Cats go to that salon? :O

ChewyChewy · Post by **ChewyChewy** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:32 pm

Foxstar wrote:
ChewyChewy wrote:But could someone please explain this thing to me...? I couldn't understand half of what Duchess was saying....
Which part? She said a few things.

What she said in the second and fourth panels.

Specifically "You just contradicted yourself, dear" and "I'd explain but apparently I set unrealistic standards for intelligence".

She is right about "feminism being for humans", though, as with canines there is practically no difference at all. They even have separate male and female hierarchies in a wolf pack.

Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:38 pm

ChewyChewy wrote:Specifically "You just contradicted yourself, dear" and "I'd explain but apparently I set unrealistic standards for intelligence".

well, Sasha said that using cutesy terms is demeaning and endearing, two qualities that can't quite work together.
the unrealistic standards for intelligence is referring to the fact that Sasha doesn't know how Duchess can tell the difference between male and female dogs, a way which is quite obvious, but can't quite be mentioned in a PG comic.

ChewyChewy · Post by **ChewyChewy** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:55 pm

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:
ChewyChewy wrote:Specifically "You just contradicted yourself, dear" and "I'd explain but apparently I set unrealistic standards for intelligence".
well, Sasha said that using cutesy terms is demeaning and endearing, two qualities that can't quite work together.
the unrealistic standards for intelligence is referring to the fact that Sasha doesn't know how Duchess can tell the difference between male and female dogs, a way which is quite obvious, but can't quite be mentioned in a PG comic.

*facepalm*

Looks like I win the Sasha award....

Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:06 pm

ChewyChewy wrote:Looks like I win the Sasha award....

THAT SHOULD TOTALLY BE A REAL THING!!! every arc, a particularly oblivious forumite should get the award.

ChewyChewy · Post by **ChewyChewy** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:22 pm

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:
ChewyChewy wrote:Looks like I win the Sasha award....
THAT SHOULD TOTALLY BE A REAL THING!!! every arc, a particularly oblivious forumite should get the award.

...aaaaaaand it looks like I just won it again. *facepalm*

xhunterko · Post by **xhunterko** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:50 pm

The title of this thread is incorrect. It should read: Cake is a lie!!
*flees*

Foxstar · Post by **Foxstar** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:28 pm

RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:why is every human in this comic (mostly)faceless except for Joel?

Henry Milton's relatives aren't. Bill isn't.

Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:31 pm

I forgot about the Miltons. but Bill's eyes are always covered, so it doesn't count.

anyway, I wasn't being serious, just responding to Ricks statement.

Buckdida · Post by **Buckdida** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:36 pm

ChewyChewy wrote:
RandomGeekNamedBrent wrote:
ChewyChewy wrote:Specifically "You just contradicted yourself, dear" and "I'd explain but apparently I set unrealistic standards for intelligence".
well, Sasha said that using cutesy terms is demeaning and endearing, two qualities that can't quite work together.
the unrealistic standards for intelligence is referring to the fact that Sasha doesn't know how Duchess can tell the difference between male and female dogs, a way which is quite obvious, but can't quite be mentioned in a PG comic.
*facepalm*

Looks like I win the Sasha award....

The funny thing is, while that would normally be obvious, it is not obvious to us with most of the character designs in the comic. For example, think about Grape! XD

Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:40 pm

Buckdida wrote:The funny thing is, while that would normally be obvious, it is not obvious to us with most of the character designs in the comic. For example, think about Grape! XD

yeah, but the implication that, in their world, it's somewhat obvious (what Duchess said and Grape wondering how Peanut didn't know she was a girl when they're naked all the time) is still there. so it while gender isn't that obvious to us, we still know that it should be obvious to them.

Post by **Sleet** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:19 pm

Don't male and female dogs and cats tend to smell different?

Also, obligatory "they are naked all the time!"

xhunterko wrote:The title of this thread is incorrect. It should read: Cake is a lie!!
*flees*

You mean hinting at a clichéd reference isn't as good as bludgeoning people with a clichéd reference?

xhunterko · Post by **xhunterko** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:23 pm

You mean hinting at a clichéd reference isn't as good as bludgeoning people with a clichéd reference?

Hence the fleeing. Couldn't help it sorry.

Teh Brawler · Post by **Teh Brawler** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:31 pm

And here's where knowing several feminists helps out in me understanding the joke.

Post by **Sleet** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:48 pm

Also, I don't feel Rick needs to apologize one bit for the title pun. I loved it.

Sinder · Post by **Sinder** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:02 pm

We haven't seen Bill, have we?

Or should I just substitute a picture of Brock Samson?

ChewyChewy · Post by **ChewyChewy** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:41 pm

Buckdida wrote:The funny thing is, while that would normally be obvious, it is not obvious to us with most of the character designs in the comic. For example, think about Grape! XD

Yes, but...Grape's a CAT. Rick has a thing for gender ambiguity of cats in his comic: Grape, Fiddler and Keys, the Mr. Bigglesworths....

I haven't seen that with dogs. When in doubt, check for eyelashes.

Post by **Sleet** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:52 am

It worked for Grape, after all.

Barkeron · Post by **Barkeron** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:01 am

ChewyChewy wrote:
She is right about "feminism being for humans", though, as with canines there is practically no difference at all. They even have separate male and female hierarchies in a wolf pack.

Pretty much this.

Foxstar · Post by **Foxstar** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:40 am

Sinder wrote:We haven't seen Bill, have we?

Or should I just substitute a picture of Brock Samson?

Four times. I'll let you steer the SS Grapenut into dock to find which strips. No sir Sinder, you don't get it easy here.

ChewyChewy · Post by **ChewyChewy** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:03 pm

This may just be my mind wandering, but Duchess makes me think of KING, what with her color pattern, the expression on her face, and even her name.

I doubt this will happen but what if King and Duchess met at some point, maybe took an interest in each other, maybe that somehow influenced King's decision? I don't know, I doubt it, but my mind wanders....

Post by **Sleet** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:17 pm

She's clearly related to King. And she's Great Kitsune's avatar, because Great Kitsune and Pete were brothers, but not literally; they served together back in 'Nam.

Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:20 pm

Sleet wrote:She's clearly related to King. And she's Great Kitsune's avatar, because Great Kitsune and Pete were brothers, but not literally; they served together back in 'Nam.

'Nam of course being the name of one of the multiple universes.

ChewyChewy · Post by **ChewyChewy** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:43 pm

Sleet wrote:She's clearly related to King. And she's Great Kitsune's avatar, because Great Kitsune and Pete were brothers, but not literally; they served together back in 'Nam.

I should probably just keep my mouth shut.

Sinder · Post by **Sinder** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:04 pm

Foxstar wrote:Four times. I'll let you steer the SS Grapenut into dock to find which strips. No sir Sinder, you don't get it easy here.

Shots of his chiseled jaw don't count!

Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:22 pm

Sinder wrote:
Foxstar wrote:Four times. I'll let you steer the SS Grapenut into dock to find which strips. No sir Sinder, you don't get it easy here.
Shots of his chiseled jaw don't count!

check the first arc with the wolves.

Post by **Sleet** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:03 am

Housepets!: soapbox one-off set!

I like how they're still funny, though. So I accept it.

IceKitsune · Post by **IceKitsune** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:03 am

silly comic reboots you are so stupid (except for maybe the original crisis which at the time really needed to happen)

Indagare · Post by **Indagare** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:12 am

IceKitsune wrote: silly comic reboots you are so stupid (except for maybe the original crisis which at the time really needed to happen)

No, no it didn't. If DC could have just been okay with a multiverse everything would have been fine.

Post by **rickgriffin** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:17 am

Or, if they had a finale and started over, as in actually started over instead of have an out where they sorta loosely tie everything back in. I mean, that's what they do with their cartoon series, which as far as I'm concerned, are almost all put together much better than the comics universe.

copper · Post by **copper** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:24 am

Hmm. Almost makes me want to pick up a comic book to see what this is all about. I assume something about the new Spiderman or something? I am not up on the whole comic thing, so this just went over my head. Oh well....

I am sure it was funny.

IceKitsune · Post by **IceKitsune** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:14 am

Indagare wrote:
IceKitsune wrote: silly comic reboots you are so stupid (except for maybe the original crisis which at the time really needed to happen)
No, no it didn't. If DC could have just been okay with a multiverse everything would have been fine.

Oh please Superman alone needed that reboot he was completely ridiculous at the time, there was no way to really fix him power wise except maybe kill him and bring him back but that would have been unlikely as he was basically a god who could do anything he wanted.

rickgriffin wrote:Or, if they had a finale and started over, as in actually started over instead of have an out where they sorta loosely tie everything back in. I mean, that's what they do with their cartoon series, which as far as I'm concerned, are almost all put together much better than the comics universe.

This is what they should do and yes, yes they are.

Post by **Sleet** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:24 am

copper wrote:Hmm. Almost makes me want to pick up a comic book to see what this is all about. I assume something about the new Spiderman or something? I am not up on the whole comic thing, so this just went over my head. Oh well....

I am sure it was funny.

I believe DC is doing a multiverse-wide reboot. I think it's DC? I'm not sure. I'm not big on comics either.

IceKitsune · Post by **IceKitsune** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:51 am

Sleet wrote:
copper wrote:Hmm. Almost makes me want to pick up a comic book to see what this is all about. I assume something about the new Spiderman or something? I am not up on the whole comic thing, so this just went over my head. Oh well....

I am sure it was funny.
I believe DC is doing a multiverse-wide reboot. I think it's DC? I'm not sure. I'm not big on comics either.

DC is doing some sort of semi-reboot thing where all the big named characters (and all of the smaller named ones too I think) origins will be rebooted and retold and some of there previous canon will be gotten rid of (but not all of it which is what this comic is talking about) and they will continue from there telling stories. Of course none of this will work right and every thing will end up being a complete mess, due to writers not talking to each other about whats canon and what not; plus editors messing with stuff as well, and in a year to a year and a half they will need to do yet another reboot style thing to fix it.

So basically same old stuff they've been doing since 1986

Sinder · Post by **Sinder** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:38 am

heh heh

changed the reboot machine

Teh Brawler · Post by **Teh Brawler** » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:11 am

But does it effect the multiverses that exist with other forms of Spot the Superdog?