People assume that time is a consecutive line of course to effect but actually from a non-linear perspective it’s actually like a big ball.
Hello there fellow Whovian.
Time is just an idea.
Is an abstraction that we invented according to the movement of our planet in relation to the Sun.
We always live in the present, in the past of the future and in the future of the past! HASHAHAHAHAH!
*Ahem* So, yeah Peanut is experiencing a paradox
So is a paradox while the second Peanut is there.
But if Peanut goes trough the gate there’ll be only one Peanut.
The one that already went trough the gate and traveled a few minutes to the past, right?
(i know what i said about the usage of the concept of time but this way is easier)
Yep, so peanut will be about 10 minutes older and get to enjoy his root beer a second time around!
And also, time isn’t just an idea. It’s the part of space that allows cause and effect. Without time, Nothing would ever happen.
Our measurement of time (Days, Hours, Minutes, Seconds) is the abstraction.
And with that I’ve used up all my brain power for the day. To the TV!
So seing himself is not a paradox? Mmmm…
If the future Peanut kills the present Peanut, will he just dissapear?
And if the present Peanut kills his future Peanut, will he stay his age forever?
And then that would be a paradox?
@Polo: your concept is better than mine, man.
I think he NEEDS to go back in time. He has done that, since he encountered himself. If he doesn’t now, he’ll do that anyway, because he WILL DO that.
This isn’t a paradox. A paradox is when the future Peanut says to the past Peanut not to go in the gate (and Peanut doesn’t). This is simply a twisted timeline.
The problem is it doesn’t make sense for Peanut to have gone into the gate at all. He told himself to and so he did it. I mean paradox is more of a contradiction then a change in time. It’s like the chicken or the egg loop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox
his collar probably, i think all the pets have little pockets sown into there collars to hold there wallets and there spare change and stuff, kinda like having a coin purse wrapped around your neck, i mean how else would they hold onto there wallets?
Just got into the series yesterday, and burned through the archives over the past twelve hours. Great stuff. Of course, the down sidew is that now I have to wait between each new strip like a normal person. Ah well, I’m sure they’ll be worth the wait.
That aside, the current arc is an interesting one. I guess magic is a lot more commonplace in the Housepets universe than the previous arcs have let on? Well, er, ignoring all of the strips about Heaven and the temple and all that, I mean.
I often wonder just how attuned the humans are to all the bizarre goings-on. Does Tarot’s owner not notice his/her dog glows in the dark? Also, Jerry, Mr. Sandwich, and some other people saw Pete fly away when he was released…
What if the future Peanut is actually an evil Peanut from a parallel universe and got in the gate without paying.
Thats how he still has the token.
And he wants to take the place of Peanut While, without knowing, the swami hat guy is leading him into a trap!
Nooowwwwww! T_T
its fine i just had to go to the hospital from the mush coming out of my ear i should have stuck to just reading the comic instead oh the comments, but its okay… about the dumb thing and the brain dripping out of my ear.
I think its a scam…the Swami-Hat guy is in cahoots with a shapeshifter who goes around convincing people that he/she is themselves from the future, and that they must continue the cycle by going into the void (and paying the admission) or risk the worlds exploding or something. Someone call the PsyCops!
Ether that or its Ponbon with his ears pinned back.
In which case on Friday Tarot will be hexing the Swami-Hat Guy for turning Peanut into a Chihuahua with the Gate of Mystery.
At what point did she even think it was a good idea to bring Mr. Curiosity along with her without constant supervision? She should have brought Sabrina to make sure he doesn’t accidentally turn himself inside-out or something.
That’s just the thing. With her future sight, Tarot has no experience of actually working out the consequences of actions for herself, she just sees them. But the Psicon is located outside of space and, more importantly, time, meaning that future sight doesn’t work, since the entire concept of “future” does not apply. She’s sailing blind, having never seen a compass in her life!
Lol making the alternate text the same as before to emphasize Deja Vu. CLEVER!! XD And yeah, the guy in the swami hat reminds me of the black mages from the Final Fantasy games. Awesome. Other than that, love the comic!
y’know, it is technically a paradox, since he’d have to have told himself to check it out in the first place, which would normally be impossible. so it may not seem to be one at first, but it really is.
I missed a year’s worth of comics but caught up in a few hours XD. That guy feels like he’s a magic man. It makes it mysterious why there are two Peanuts though ^^;
So… Peanut only went to the guy that sent him back in time because Peanut had went back in time to tell Peanut to go to the guy that sent him back in time. Gotcha. Wait, where did normal-time Peanut get the admission token to the mystery gate he didn’t know until recently that he would enter?
Original Time Line – Terot goes to the little puppy’s room. Peanut (call him P#1) sits there for about 10 minutes, gets bored, notices the cool void thing with Swami-hat guy on his own and goes through it without any encouragement. P#1 goes back 10 minutes, walks back to the Dragon booth and starts talking to P#2 (the one with the soda bottle), thereby starting Time Line 2.
Now as we’re watching this, this time line alteration has only now started as of P#1 leaving the void, so how can he claim to have had this conversation with himself before? It hasn’t happenend yet from his POV. Despite the alt text, he seems to claim to remember the exact conversation instead of just a vague feeling that he spoke to himself once before. That’s why I got the feeling that P#1 wasn’t actually Peanut, but a shapeshifter or Tarot impersonating him.
The alternative being that this is the second or more time this loop has played itself out, and we find out that Peanut’s been stuck in it for awhile. So it would go like this…
1st time line P#1 goes into the void by himself.
2nd timeline P#1 talks to P#2 but doesn’t recall the conversation which hasn’t happenend yet, and encourages P#2 to go into the void.
3rd timeline P#2 takes the place of P#1, and can now talk to P#3 with knowlege of a conversation that has already happenend to him from his POV, and again encourages P#3 to go into the void.
Lather, rinse, repeat until an outside event stops the cycle.
And I know I’m overthinking this, but its Thursday and like Tiger I hate Thursdays and have to do something to get my mind over it.
Why do you assume that there was an “original time line” where Peanut didn’t travel back in time? It’s a closed loop, self consistent, with causal links between each action.
I didn’t say he didn’t go back in time, I said he went back on his own without being urged on by the Timeclone Peanuts to start the loop the first time.
Or the possibility exists that the whole PsyCon Infinity event is a holodeck test Tarot’s administerating to Peanut without his knowlege to see how he’d react in different scenarios. This would explain the shock she gave him (a diversion so he’d feel he actually moved someplace) and her apparent carelessness of leaving him unattended, as noted by commenters above.
well, it could be an alternate reality time loop paradox scenario…
Peanut somehow decides to check out the mysterious gate, tells himself about the weird thing which just happened, then watches the stall indefinitely while the other peanut goes to check the other stall, initiating the time-loop paradox. thus, the original/first-per-timeline peanut resumes his life only moments later/before he left. thus, paradox is solved by creating a split reality.
it’d be weird since the reality would continue to be repeated infinitely, but since the Peanuts (Peanut and time-clones. XD ) would only have a linear knowledge and perspective, they wouldn’t even notice such an event, unless they stopped to think about it. either way, it’d be an irrelevant fact.
funny, but this would put lots of proof into the idea of the fifth dimension since the event would be happening over-and-over.
More than one Peanut, The Astral Effect, Time Travel. HP Matters: Twisted But True! 0.0
If you don’t you’ll be beside yourself!
and alt text is the same is yesterday.
does this count as daja vu also (not alt text)
I believe it was intentional.
Im confused
im guessing that guy door made another peanut
Nah, the door simply sent Peanut back in time about 10 minutes. XD
But of course.
Wibbly-Wobbly Timey-Wimey… Stuff and other things of that nature.
People assume that time is a consecutive line of course to effect but actually from a non-linear perspective it’s actually like a big ball.
Hello there fellow Whovian.
hehe new season starts soon i cant wait for more doctor who
Time is just an idea.
Is an abstraction that we invented according to the movement of our planet in relation to the Sun.
We always live in the present, in the past of the future and in the future of the past! HASHAHAHAHAH!
*Ahem* So, yeah Peanut is experiencing a paradox
It’s not a paradox unless he doesn’t go through the gate.
So is a paradox while the second Peanut is there.
But if Peanut goes trough the gate there’ll be only one Peanut.
The one that already went trough the gate and traveled a few minutes to the past, right?
(i know what i said about the usage of the concept of time but this way is easier)
Yep, so peanut will be about 10 minutes older and get to enjoy his root beer a second time around!
And also, time isn’t just an idea. It’s the part of space that allows cause and effect. Without time, Nothing would ever happen.
Our measurement of time (Days, Hours, Minutes, Seconds) is the abstraction.
And with that I’ve used up all my brain power for the day. To the TV!
It’s not a paradox until he does something inconsistent wit the time loop.
So seing himself is not a paradox? Mmmm…
If the future Peanut kills the present Peanut, will he just dissapear?
And if the present Peanut kills his future Peanut, will he stay his age forever?
And then that would be a paradox?
@Polo: your concept is better than mine, man.
I think it’s a paradox because Peanut wouldn’t have gone to the gate of mystery unless future Peanut told him to. Thus the paradox
YES!
YES!
Thats the paradox I tried to point out (I think i failed)
but YES!
I think he NEEDS to go back in time. He has done that, since he encountered himself. If he doesn’t now, he’ll do that anyway, because he WILL DO that.
This isn’t a paradox. A paradox is when the future Peanut says to the past Peanut not to go in the gate (and Peanut doesn’t). This is simply a twisted timeline.
Or if the two Peanuts walk into the gate.
(this reminds me of a Python’s sketch, guess what…)
The problem is it doesn’t make sense for Peanut to have gone into the gate at all. He told himself to and so he did it. I mean paradox is more of a contradiction then a change in time. It’s like the chicken or the egg loop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox
I wonder if this counts as deja vu <–alt text same as before…..
And Peanut's adorableness kills me xD
I legitimately had a bit of deja vu. Had to go back tot he previous comic to confirm.
Well played.
So…you’re saying you took a “Deja View”?
Well played Mister Skunk…. very well indeed.
That’ll fix the paradox.
It’s not a paradox until Peanut tries to alter time.
NOOOO NEVER TRUST A GUY IN A SWAMI HAT
bu swami hat dudes are the best!
Never trust swami hat guy 0_0
I’m just wondering are we seeing a flashback or did the second (or would it be first?) Peanut go over to the Swami-Hat Guy?
Both effectively.
The Peanut who didn’t time travel already is going through the door.
Otherwise he would just multiply endlessly, and BSOD alternate reality.
I was wondering that, too.
Also the Swami-Hat Guy is neat.
Perfect for a Halloween costume!
What other secrets does Swami-Hat Guy holds?
Peanut’s about to take the Magical Mystery Tour?
It’s certainly hoping to take him away.
I’m a confused o_O
Hmm I’m listing to “in the the void” by black Sabbath and reading this issue. . . Irony?
They say that if you listen to “Dark Side of the Moon” while reading the “Great Water Balloon War”, it sincs up perfectly.
What? That makes no sence. Ima pink Flyod fan and I never heard that.
Wait I see what your doing well played
Just say you told yourself to do it and you get in for free
I guess he better get in there for avoiding any … paradox ?
Peanut knows that what could go wrong?
bet he will he get in real trouble if people found out he did that to peanut.
Also, where did he store that token?
his collar probably, i think all the pets have little pockets sown into there collars to hold there wallets and there spare change and stuff, kinda like having a coin purse wrapped around your neck, i mean how else would they hold onto there wallets?
Magic, maybe they can teleport, i don’t know use your… IMAGINATION
A stable time loop! INTERESTING.
Swami-hat guy seems to have paws. I wonder what’s under that turban?
There isn’t anything under that turban!
He *is* the turban.
There is no turban.
yeah its a swami hat not a turban! GAH T3T o3o
actually that is a turban. it’s strip of material wrapped up in a way then pinned in front. That is a turban.
The turban is a spoon.
Argent got my joke.
Just got into the series yesterday, and burned through the archives over the past twelve hours. Great stuff. Of course, the down sidew is that now I have to wait between each new strip like a normal person. Ah well, I’m sure they’ll be worth the wait.
That aside, the current arc is an interesting one. I guess magic is a lot more commonplace in the Housepets universe than the previous arcs have let on? Well, er, ignoring all of the strips about Heaven and the temple and all that, I mean.
They seem to take psychic powers as a normal kind of thing, like the dolphins.
I often wonder just how attuned the humans are to all the bizarre goings-on. Does Tarot’s owner not notice his/her dog glows in the dark? Also, Jerry, Mr. Sandwich, and some other people saw Pete fly away when he was released…
Tarot’s owner probably acquired Tarot /because/ she can glow in the dark.
“It’s a dog AND a nightlight, in convenient economy size! Sold!”
how do we know tarot *HAS* a owner… i mean she is “secretly” a giant spirit dragon NERD
Argent, I almost died laughing reading your comment. I imagined it in the voice of an Exuberant Salesperson Guy
Tarot and the Spirit Dragon are not the same entity; Tarot is the Spirit Dragon’s avatar.
Tarot glows in the dark when she;s looking for the TV remote.
Plus she’s a holodeck for when there’s nothing on.
How suspiciously convenient that he should have an admission token.
He got it from future Peanut.
But future peanut already gave it to the swami hat guy.
What if the future Peanut is actually an evil Peanut from a parallel universe and got in the gate without paying.
Thats how he still has the token.
And he wants to take the place of Peanut While, without knowing, the swami hat guy is leading him into a trap!
Nooowwwwww! T_T
Then Peanut will end up taking Evil Peanut’s place, and Evil Peanut probably has a cool lair, because evil.
so is it a evil person stereotype that they have cool lairs?
Well, yeh. The whole “I can’t afford to be evil, have you looked at the prices of volcano lairs these days?” thing.
maybe its like a movie ticket or something, you know how you keep the stump of the ticket. maybe you keep the token.
Except for Frugal Lucre. He is evil and lives with his mother
maybe it could be Pete impersonating Peanut!!!! DUN-DUN-DUUUUNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!
well like all things in life. you can only go forward. be it a new life experience…. or some kind of inter-dimensional plane
Or an old life experience that your reliving from a confusing new angle.
I pretty sure this counts as Reja Vu…as in I’ve been here once before, I’ll be here again.
Ruh roh! Reja-ru
but what if him going back in time again makes a third peanut…… oh god my brain is join to explode!!!!!
i meant going… never mind exploding i think it is slowly turning to mush
But is so easy to understand is just a reality fluctuation with two parallel time lines out of sync, piece of cake …
hahaha
thanks for making me feel dumb… and its mostly from reading some of the other comments.
Didnt mean to.
Sorry
its fine i just had to go to the hospital from the mush coming out of my ear i should have stuck to just reading the comic instead oh the comments, but its okay… about the dumb thing and the brain dripping out of my ear.
Let’s all be nice to each other!
okay
I think its a scam…the Swami-Hat guy is in cahoots with a shapeshifter who goes around convincing people that he/she is themselves from the future, and that they must continue the cycle by going into the void (and paying the admission) or risk the worlds exploding or something. Someone call the PsyCops!
Ether that or its Ponbon with his ears pinned back.
In which case on Friday Tarot will be hexing the Swami-Hat Guy for turning Peanut into a Chihuahua with the Gate of Mystery.
At what point did she even think it was a good idea to bring Mr. Curiosity along with her without constant supervision? She should have brought Sabrina to make sure he doesn’t accidentally turn himself inside-out or something.
That’s just the thing. With her future sight, Tarot has no experience of actually working out the consequences of actions for herself, she just sees them. But the Psicon is located outside of space and, more importantly, time, meaning that future sight doesn’t work, since the entire concept of “future” does not apply. She’s sailing blind, having never seen a compass in her life!
That’s an exceptionally cromulent theory.
Certainly embiggened my understanding of the subject.
The same Alt text?
Oh, I see what you did there.
I am so confused
Now I can guess that Tarot will get onto him for leaving the booth.
OMG, if you hit the prev button you can see the next comic!
(literally) shady guy in a swami hat…
…yeah, this seems legit
Lol making the alternate text the same as before to emphasize Deja Vu. CLEVER!! XD And yeah, the guy in the swami hat reminds me of the black mages from the Final Fantasy games. Awesome. Other than that, love the comic!
Define paradox someone please? i have the gist of what it means but someone give me a definition!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_paradox
Actually, I think the tvtropes page is better!
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TemporalParadox
I couldn’t agree more
I think it’s supposed to be something In time that’s not supposed to happen but it happens anyways…….
y’know, it is technically a paradox, since he’d have to have told himself to check it out in the first place, which would normally be impossible. so it may not seem to be one at first, but it really is.
also, i am a total ass.
:3
Hurry, before you BREAK reality!
Hey, you break reality, you’ve bought it!
The price is unreal!
OH NOES
I missed a year’s worth of comics but caught up in a few hours XD. That guy feels like he’s a magic man. It makes it mysterious why there are two Peanuts though ^^;
B-but the Emperor says that warp-users are pure heretical evil? Would Peanut really divulge into Chaos?
So… Peanut only went to the guy that sent him back in time because Peanut had went back in time to tell Peanut to go to the guy that sent him back in time. Gotcha. Wait, where did normal-time Peanut get the admission token to the mystery gate he didn’t know until recently that he would enter?
EXACTLY… O.O
I dont quite get it T_T can anyone bother to explain this to me..? ;o;
I think I lack analytical skills..,…
Ok, my problem with it is this…
Original Time Line – Terot goes to the little puppy’s room. Peanut (call him P#1) sits there for about 10 minutes, gets bored, notices the cool void thing with Swami-hat guy on his own and goes through it without any encouragement. P#1 goes back 10 minutes, walks back to the Dragon booth and starts talking to P#2 (the one with the soda bottle), thereby starting Time Line 2.
Now as we’re watching this, this time line alteration has only now started as of P#1 leaving the void, so how can he claim to have had this conversation with himself before? It hasn’t happenend yet from his POV. Despite the alt text, he seems to claim to remember the exact conversation instead of just a vague feeling that he spoke to himself once before. That’s why I got the feeling that P#1 wasn’t actually Peanut, but a shapeshifter or Tarot impersonating him.
The alternative being that this is the second or more time this loop has played itself out, and we find out that Peanut’s been stuck in it for awhile. So it would go like this…
1st time line P#1 goes into the void by himself.
2nd timeline P#1 talks to P#2 but doesn’t recall the conversation which hasn’t happenend yet, and encourages P#2 to go into the void.
3rd timeline P#2 takes the place of P#1, and can now talk to P#3 with knowlege of a conversation that has already happenend to him from his POV, and again encourages P#3 to go into the void.
Lather, rinse, repeat until an outside event stops the cycle.
And I know I’m overthinking this, but its Thursday and like Tiger I hate Thursdays and have to do something to get my mind over it.
Why do you assume that there was an “original time line” where Peanut didn’t travel back in time? It’s a closed loop, self consistent, with causal links between each action.
I didn’t say he didn’t go back in time, I said he went back on his own without being urged on by the Timeclone Peanuts to start the loop the first time.
Or the possibility exists that the whole PsyCon Infinity event is a holodeck test Tarot’s administerating to Peanut without his knowlege to see how he’d react in different scenarios. This would explain the shock she gave him (a diversion so he’d feel he actually moved someplace) and her apparent carelessness of leaving him unattended, as noted by commenters above.
well, it could be an alternate reality time loop paradox scenario…
Peanut somehow decides to check out the mysterious gate, tells himself about the weird thing which just happened, then watches the stall indefinitely while the other peanut goes to check the other stall, initiating the time-loop paradox. thus, the original/first-per-timeline peanut resumes his life only moments later/before he left. thus, paradox is solved by creating a split reality.
Tah-Da! :3
it’d be weird since the reality would continue to be repeated infinitely, but since the Peanuts (Peanut and time-clones. XD ) would only have a linear knowledge and perspective, they wouldn’t even notice such an event, unless they stopped to think about it. either way, it’d be an irrelevant fact.
funny, but this would put lots of proof into the idea of the fifth dimension since the event would be happening over-and-over.
then again, WEB COMIC. XD
Ok….I think I got it….Peanut’s on first, Tarot’s on second, Swami-Hat Guy’s on third…..
Actually this is Vu Ja De, the vague feeling that, though you’ve not experienced this before, you may again in the near future.