We All Dream For Sundering

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  1. Dissension

    The off-putting figurines, combined with the text of panel six, would seem to indicate that Dragon is responsible for the romantic relationships Peanut, Grape, and Fido find themselves in.

    • Xane

      Not that I’ll completely forgive Pete for being so cruel to King (who none of us would care about anyway if he hadn’t been turned into the Cutest Thing EVAR[tm]), but… that level of manipulation borders on cruel and evil to me. Even if all the “followers” are pretty much happy with their situation, it’s still horribly wrong. Ugh. And here I thought Dragon was nice…

      • Shuma Jindivi

        A dream sunderer cannot be in love with anyone…….nope, Dragon is nicer.

        • IceKitsune

          You can maybe argue shes barely nicer then Pete. But you know what would have been even Nicer? Not playing this stupid game in the first place!

          • Valerio

            *shakes hand* Man, I so hope King screws their game so ROYALLY.

          • Shuma Jindivi

            Hey!……no hard feelings? I didn’t mean anything, that was simply what I feel……But I understand.

          • IceKitsune

            Oh I’m not mad at you or anything I’m just venting about Dragon. I didn’t mean anything by it.

          • Shuma Jindivi

            I know. I’m refering to my deleted reply, by Rick or mods (I guess).

          • Shuma Jindivi

            You probably didn’t get to see it. Which may be a good thing considering it obviously conveyed a false impression.

        • Big Fan

          Pete said that an avatar cannot be in love to begin with. Maybe I’m confused, but it sounds like after after becoming that type of avatar, they can fall in love. PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong, Rick.

          • IceKitsune

            No, Dream Sunderer class Avatars can’t be in love because it hurt their powers. Avatar of other classes can be.

          • Big Fan

            The first “avatar” should be “sunderer.”

    • Katsohjn

      Youre assuming that this is the case based off of Pete’s story mind you. Secondly its not explained why Peanut, Grape and Fido are there exactly. For all we know they are there because Dragon befriended them but I dont think she is responsible for their love affairs. I mean if that were the case(as you put it) youd think that Fido would be in love with Grape as well.

      • Big Fan

        Fido and Sabrina are in love, and Sabrina is one of SD’s followers.

      • Dissension

        Why should Fido be in love with Grape? If each candidate were not matched with a romantic partner, one could become Pete’s avatar. The comic text flat-out states Spirit Dragon used her followers in this way. While Pete is telling the story, he is doing so in front of a judge and others who are “technically” omniscient. Lying would do nothing for him.

        • Katsohjn

          No, the text says that she interposed (intervened) with her followers. That could mean any number of things but its not a direct translation that Spirit Dragon manipulated her followers to fall in love with one another. For all we know, when Spirit Dragon interposed, it could mean that she gave Grape the warning and guided her followers to, in essence, block Pete from breaking free. All Im saying is that I dont think Spirit Dragon is or was manipulating her followers to fall in love.

          • darastrixen

            It seemed to me to be fairly implied that she was, but unlike a lot of the other posts here, that really doesn’t bother me. You know who else sets up love arrangements? Annoying friends! “You should come with us, she’s got a sister and she’s totally into that thing you like.” Setting up the right conditions does not invalidate the love of two people. As a, err, “technically omniscient” being, it seems plausible that if she did intervene, Dragon simply put Romeo in the same room as Juliet and waited.

          • IceKitsune

            Darastrixen the thing is when people play Matchmaker like that usually the friend has asked to be set up before hand and when its done other wise the relationships almost never work out and the person playing matchmaker looks like a complete Jerk.

          • Katsohjn

            @ darastrixen
            I wasnt saying that Spirit Dragon wasnt playing match maker, what I was saying is that she wasnt using her powers to make her followers fall in love, which seems to be what people are implying here.

      • Vartra

        Of course, the only way to make them ineligible on the count of not “being in love with someone” is to bring them into contact with, if not their perfect romantic match, someone pretty close. Does not mean Dragon caused them to fall in love, just at the very least put the best options on the board for that to happen. To assume Dragon did not have a claw in guiding the mortals’ to fall in love would be foolhardy as it would not only benefit Dragon to further delay Pete from gaining an Avatar, but by interposing (or intervening with their own followers) the only way to make them ineligible on that count is to cause them to fall in love.

    • Keldor

      I think Dragon’s involvement with their relationships is much more akin to what Gandalf said to Frodo in Lord of the Rings: “If you’re talking about the thing with the dragon, I was barely involved. I merely pushed your uncle out the door.”

      Sometimes the best way to get two people to fall in love is to trap them indoors together with a well timed rain storm.

      • Katsohjn

        I honestly dont think you can get two individuals to fall in love with one another merely by locking them in a room during a rain storm. =p
        If that worked then a lot of people wouldnt be single. Too many here are jumping to conclusions when we dont have the whole story on how much each are being influenced and in what way. Just seems like thats what a lot on here do, is jump to conclusions. Take the other day’s comic when Spirit Dragon cursed Pete’s temple. Immediately people started calling Dragon a jerk for doing so, it may have seemed like a jerk move but none of us knew the rules of the duel. This panel people saw Grape, Peanut and Fido with Tara and ASSUMED that Spirit Dragon was in direct control of them as if they were just Dragon’s pawns. While yes Pete is telling his truth what we are seeing are probably his thoughts and how he thinks of the characters involved……I think the ONLY person that knows the whole story is Griff :p people here need to chill and just enjoy the comic.

    • 7ance

      max must work for dragon than

  2. Ryufire

    The gods sure have plenty of time to tinker! :3

  3. Cristian100n

    . . . . .Yes?

    • Frank

      The best non-committal answer in the universe!

  4. Zaitsev

    Almost bit my lip in two with that alt text tonight.

    • The face

      What is the alt text? Also, hilarious

      • Zaitsev

        “I didn’t used to be a powergamer, til I took a lightning bolt in the temple.”
        I was tired with that reference the day after the game was released so I’ve gotten rather bitter about it.

        • rallyjr

          a lightning bolt? pfft walk it off

        • IslaKariese

          I only found it funny ’cause he didn’t copy it directly. I can find more humor in ‘lightning bolt to the temple’ than ‘arrow to the knee.’

    • Xuncu

      Oi, that pun. Temple, as in ‘to the head’ and to Pete’s actual sacred temple sanctuary…..

  5. tanglestalker909

    Well, it’s not everyday that your old art styles make an appearance in your newer strips, Rick. Nice work as always! :)

    • RedDwarfIV

      I’m not sure, but if I was doing a flashback in my webcomic to an earlier scene, unless the artwork was bad then I would just copy it and paste it into the new one.

      Rick is probably better than that, but I would have to check to make certain.

      • RedDwarfIV

        Although it would appear that it is exactly what he has done [No offense intended to Rick, I still believe him to be an excellent artist - and as I said, it's exactly what I would have done.]

        I made a comparison image:

  6. kimo

    do you think he has it all planed out? or does he just make it up as he goes along?

    • I like your hat

      he probably has the story planned out a little in advance i mean it fits together so well ‘._.-

    • Ryufire

      Maybe! I mean he knew what he was getting into!

    • Inkweaver22

      And all that was without a single drop of rum.

  7. I like your hat

    the dragon is so clueless and i don’t think pete knows what hes talking about either…. by his responce

  8. leaffly

    Wait… I don’t fully understand the last few panels.

    • I like your hat

      hes saying that because peanut and grape are in a relationship he couldnt use them unless they connected to him by activating the mana pool. but since zach activated it…. thats what i got from it atleaste

      • darastrixen

        Right. He’s saying that if Grape or Peanut had been the ones to awaken him, then he could have taken them as his “Dream Sunderer” avatar even if they were in love. But they didn’t, Zach did, and since the duel is limited to only “cats and dogs,” Pete couldn’t use him either.

  9. Gary (from Radio Free Housepets!)

    Dream Sunderer!! xD

    • Redallover

      What’s the real meaning of a “Dream Sunderer” I know that sunder means to separate, but is there any other meaning to this? Could it be that all it means is that Pete has communicated with the DS’s in the past through dreams? I don’t know/understand. Maybe this has something to do with my extreme lact of knowledge of games like D&D

    • Redallover

      Gary, I’m assuming you understand the Dream Sunderer, right?

      • Gary (from Radio Free Housepets!)

        From your explanation, yes.

  10. Yehoshua

    You would think that it would be easier to find someone not in a relationship.

    • The face

      You don’t have to be in a relationship to be in love. Think about it. Almost everybody has a secret crush!

    • Redallover

      Yeah, like Fox. Fox is pretty free and has been for the whole entire history of the comic. Why not Fox?

      • Redallover

        Plus, If I might add, it would totally stir the pot since King and Fox are best friends and all. Pete could totally make mischief with Fox as his avatar. (Not that I want that, mind you).

  11. spencershot4

    so is it option 1,0r 2? …YES! -_-

    • legendario13

      My mom does the same all the time…

      • spencershot4

        i do it sometimes to….
        (ME) YES!

        • Legendario13

          you want Chips or candy?

  12. DJ Nightfire

    best answer to power gaming …….Yes . and shouldn’t that be an lighting bolt to the kn— oh no no no no ahhhhhhhh! *dodging arrows*

    • Redallover

      Power gaming? Would someone be so kind as to give me a definition of this?

      • Keldor

        Power gaming is like whe. You play D&D in such a way as to maximize your charecter’s stats and so forth, rather than trying to be in, ah, “character”.

        • Keldor

          Pete does this a lot.

  13. IceKitsune

    Wait a minute Why did Pete try and blame Dragon for moving the temple? It was what he wanted. And so Tarots followers are Peanut, Grape, Fido, and Sabrina.

    • Dissension

      Tarot does not necessarily have “followers,” but Spirit Dragon does. I think it would be more accurate to say that Tarot and Sabrina prevented Pete from using, respectively, Peanut and Fido. Thus, Grape was left with Tarot’s creepy warning and started dating Maxwell.

      • IceKitsune

        Ok I kind of understood it then. I’m sorry but The Nerds are the most unlikeable group of people.

      • IceKitsune

        And actually considering that Sabrina and Max dated I’m throwing Grape and Max into question as well, Its likely Max is a follower of Tarot. Or could have been manipulated by Sabrina to invite Grape to the Yarn Ball so he could get her to date him.

        • Crackles

          Maxwell being locked outside that one night wasn’t accident either, I’d guess.

          • IceKitsune

            And there is that too

        • IceKitsune

          And there is the fact that Pete said Dragon had “Followers” meaning more then one. The only other one that would have mattered would be Max since it got Grape off the table. And Tarot is her Avatar not a follower.

          • darastrixen

            Well, although I feel you may be on to something, followers meaning only more than one, Tarot (despite being also the avatar) and Sabrina fill that quota, and even if Max is in on it, that doesn’t mean there aren’t more (I’d take a hard look at the ferrets, myself).

      • IceKitsune

        And actually Rick implied that The warning was going to come in at the end of this arc so I’m betting since it was for Peanut and Grape it was talking about the reveal that Their relationships have been to win this game.

        • Redallover

          Really? I must have missed that. Where and when did Rick say that?

    • Xane

      Maybe it got moved again. Or he was just trying to get Dragon in trouble!

      • Argent Stonecutter

        I think he was just trying to think up stuff to justify his schemes off the top of his head.

      • darastrixen

        Sounded like he was trying to get dragon penalized on a long-shot bet that didn’t pan out. Probably thought it was worth a shot.

  14. Shoan

    So they were all manipulated? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO *Bangs head against wall*

    • Zaitsev

      Just think of it like this, everybody is manipulated by them so if they weren’t it would be troubling.

    • Xane

      Not really liking the idea that most of the events of the comic have been entirely due to Dragon and Pete (mostly Dragon) playing with peoples’ lives just to win a game.

      • Valerio

        me too. The idea moved from the ‘they’re playing a minigame’ to ‘we messed up great time with ya guys.’ whoops.
        It risks to make the whole comic’s moot. What is it, a comic about housepets or about big gods playing puppet masters? How could one trust what is happening unless it is clearly decreed that the influence of the nerds has to or will stop?

        • darastrixen

          I don’t feel that the “higher order being” gaming group being behind the scene the whole time invalidates what’s happened. There’s a big difference between playing “puppet master” and taking direct control of the agents (as Pete did with King rather briefly). As near as I can tell, the only influence they’ve had on the Housepets world thus far has been introducing Tarot/Sabrina to the spirit world, “making” various people fall in love, and King.

          • Valerio

            I have this nagging suspect that Babylon Gardens itself has come to exist because Pete made a promise to old Milton, a promise that won’t likely be kept.
            It’s like ‘hey, Peter, you know what? In these latest 10 years you were a clone and now I can dispose of you at my pleasure!’
            The nerds cannot tamper with free will, but here, boy!, they seem to have done a lot to tamper with their lives.

          • darkgloomi

            but Pete didn’t promise old Milton anything, the “equality for humans and animals” is a dogma by which Pete’s “religion” works by. Mr Milton wasn’t promised anything that, say, the average Christian was directly promised by God.

      • Argent Stonecutter

        The alternative is they were entirely due to Rick playing with them to have an interesting story.

        • Valerio

          He was ALREADY giving us an interesting one, before throwing in this mess!

          • rayne

            No this is like, 20 times cooler. Frankly I probably would harldy care about this comic if this sort of stuff didn’t come back now and again. its the only part that gets my whole interest.

          • Argent Stonecutter

            He was still playing with them, wasn’t he? He’s been controlling them right from the first strip!

  15. Jackalope121

    so im not the only one COMPLETELY lost here right?



    ok maybe it is just me but still…….

    • SilverZeo

      Prepare yourself for KH 3D…

      • Tailz

        Oh I heard that! (Already reserved the game)

    • legendario13

      I feel your pain bro…

  16. Rey of Light

    I don’t get it!
    What does it all mean?

    • Kitch

      Pete wants a specific set of qualities for his desired class of avatar. But Dragon had so much time to prepare for his late start, she has essentially outflanked him at every turn. He finally got really desparate and conned a human into changing species to be his avatar.

  17. D-Rock

    So every relationship was a plan to keep Pete locked up. Mind blown, honestly. Now I’m wondering, what will happen when Keene and Karishad start to deal with the temple equating humans and animals, since we now see it was false.

    • Argent Stonecutter

      Hilarious hijinks!

      • D-Rock

        Let’s see, a prankish fox and a ferret. Yep, that’s a pretty safe prediction.

      • darastrixen

        Let the humor flow forth!

  18. SilverZeo

    …. someone has seen the last level of Dreams Drop Distance….

  19. lightwolf21

    So even Rick has decided to use overused memes. X3 At least he modified it from “arrow to knee”

    • Gary (from Radio Free Housepets!)

      My thoughts exact.

  20. DanTwelve3

    Five millennia is a long time to be stuck in that temple. A long time to plot… and the Spirit Dragon still ruined all of Pete’s plans.

    • Xane

      Dragon’s little trick feels like something I’d probably call foul on if I were DMing the game. I guess we still don’t know enough details but it really does feel like some cheap rules lawyering like the Locate City bomb.

      • Argent Stonecutter

        I haven’t been reminded of the locate city bomb in years.

        • Argent Stonecutter

          Three years in fact.


          D&D didn’t used to have all those spell modifiers, so we had to be more creative… and it was hard to find a DM who let you put Power Words in a Magic Mouth.

          • Xane

            Hah, was wondering if you’d catch that :D

            I like creativity but Locate City is just powergaming. I actually have less of an issue with “positive traps”, since there really is zero in-universe reason why you shouldn’t be able to create a permanent Cure Serious Wounds Gazebo.

            Anyway I guess none of us have the perceptive ability to understand Universes and Unrealities to determine if Dragon was simply being pre-emptive or just being an annoying powergamer with her “curse”..

          • darastrixen

            Annoying powergamer or not, this isn’t just a game, this is also a duel with very real consequences. Maybe I’m alone in this, but if this were a DnD game where the stakes were something a bit more easily related to, say, one thousand dollars, you can bet I’d spend as much time as possible “powergaming” it up. With that aside, if we’re going to talk powergaming, Pete set himself up in just such a scenario to maximize his starting mana pool, and even under his accounting of events, he mocked Spirit Dragon for not having the supposed foresight he did; it’s clearly a 2-way street on this one.

  21. Maxwell

    I don’t like this judge.

    • Dissension

      Why, pray tell, is that?

      • darastrixen

        Well, he knows what it feels like to get totally plastered and start a cult =p

        • BillyMT

          So wait, starting a cult is like a joyride for deities? XD

          • Argent Stonecutter

            “Dude, awesome temple, how’d you boost it?”
            “I was gonna hotwire it, but Bacchus fell asleep with the keys in his hand…”

          • BillyMT

            XDD Had to be the Stonecutter~

      • Maxwell

        He confuses me.

  22. Lophiiformes

    Mind Blow: The Comic

  23. Crackles

    Welp, this is some heavy stuff right now. This explains why the Tarot’s relationship has been feeling like a placeholder one, it’s just a move by Spirit Dragon against Pete.

    • D-Rock

      Although it does seem like Peanut and Tarot are actually getting closer. And there is Dragon’s attraction to Peanut.

  24. rallyjr

    …wait a second Rabbits are ineligible?

    • IceKitsune

      Avatars can only be Dogs and Cats in this game

      • Lophiiformes

        Does that include close relatives of domestic dogs and cats?

      • rallyjr

        well whats wrong with the rest of the animal population?

        • Lophiiformes

          No one wants to be an angler fish. :(

          • TheWolfKin

            Incorrect. Nobody wants to be a MALE anglerfish.

        • IceKitsune

          No Lophiiformes IIRC The rules were only for domestic Dogs and Cats. It was agreed on at the start of the Game

          • Lophiiformes

            So, what about wolfdogs?

      • Argent Stonecutter

        Foxes are dogs *and* cats in one! And Karishad isn’t in love with anyone but himself!

        • rallyjr

          i don’t think that loophole is going to work

        • Justice193

          Karishad is in to much love with himself to… wait… he’s going into the temple, and this is going to go down without Pete or Dragons knowl-… I sence a sneaky DM…

          I am now both horrified and greatly amused by this thought.

  25. Valerio

    Well, no matter the speculations, in the end Pete chose Joel and turned him so that he got an angry loveless avatar that depended on him. But now King is lost as avatar as per rules. The games are open on whom Pete is going to choose now.
    Peanut and Grape, Fido and Sabrina are ineligible because of the love clause. That is why dragon can interfere in Peanut’s emotional sphere now: no risks about this ‘quirk’ of her

    • Shuma Jindivi

      Em…only the dream sunderer class must be lonely and King is probably supposed to be a different class.

      • Valerio

        so, the dream sunderer were an experiment that aborted? Possible.

  26. Shuma Jindivi

    Best! Alt Text! Ever!

  27. Common Cat

    So Pate have to turn that PETA guy into a dog and become his avatar.
    And this plan fail again because now King have some relationships with Bailey.

    Poor Pate. He will lost this game for sure.

    • Argent Stonecutter

      He’s not the sharpest knife on the sacrificial altar, that’s for sure, but eventually he’ll figure out he needs Bino.

      • darkgloomie

        The only problem is, Bino doesn’t exactly strike me as a pretty imaginative type of guy. Pure, maybe, as long as we’re following Sailor Moon’s definition of “pure heart” anyway.

        Joey would probably be a stronger avatar imho.

        • Argent Stonecutter

          A U&U player picking a D&D player as an avatar? Kind of recursive, no?

          • Argent Stonecutter

            What does it mean to powergame a powergamer?

          • RedDwarfIV

            Yo Joey, I heard you like Dungeons And Dragons.

            Something along those lines, but I can’t imagine Joey would add all that much powergaming ability to Omnipotent Pete’s. Though yes, he could be a legible avatar.

          • Redallover

            I recognize the comments above about King being in a separate class and perhaps not being a “Dream Sunderer,” but if it were still true that Pete is still looking for an avatar of that particular class, Joey would as well not qualify because of his relationship with Squeak.

          • darkgloomie

            Yo dawg, I heard you like D&D, so I put a D&D all over your world!

          • Argent Stonecutter

            darkgloomie gets a cookie.

        • Kitch

          Problem is, Bino’s now “in love”. And Joey always was.

  28. Cristian100n

    i just no longer understand

    • Valerio

      you’re not the only one, believe me…

      • Critter Rhode

        *opens the church of Valerio*
        Come all Belivers of Valerio!

      • Cristian100n

        but what is going on?

  29. The Maverick Man

    Best, answer, EVER

  30. Shuma Jindivi

    And the Opener of Ways could have make a ultimately powerful character (with CHARISMA over the sky) be him not a bunny……

    • Shuma Jindivi

      Oh, and he can not choose Karishad for the same reason……what a pity.

      • Argent Stonecutter

        Of course Karishad’s a dog! He’s not a vixen, is he?

        • darastrixen

          I can’t handle this level of pun!

  31. Verp

    The weekend. Now there is a 48 hour wait, not the usual 24. (My grandfather, mom’s dad was called Pete. Imagine Redd Foxx as a white intellectual.)

  32. IceKitsune

    You know what I hope? Grape, Peanut, Zach, and King band together to screw this game over. I really really do. I know its very unlikely but I want it so much.

    • Shuma Jindivi

      “…and people wonder why gamers feel detached from society.”

    • Valerio

      *joins in prayer*

    • Redallover

      But only King is truly aware of the Game’s existence and even though that would be cool, even awesome, King has never associated himself wth the other three mentioned. I believe King would have a pretty tough time convincing any of them that there was some foul play going on at a cosmic level.

      • Shuma Jindivi

        I’m pretty sure King will prefer to be no part of it……

  33. xhunterko

    Sorry to steal your sunder there.

    • Baxtrr

      I see what you did there.

  34. Gabe23

    So, Im gonna take the guess that the one human follower Pete have is Mr Stewart

  35. Katsohjn

    You all are assuming things based off of Pete’s testimony….mind you he is the one in trouble so why would he not paint things to make Spirit Dragon look bad…..he is trying to get himself out of hot water mind you.

    Dont jump to conclusions that everyone is being manipulated by either Spirit Dragon or Pete, the only one we know thats being manipulated is King. Peanut, Grape and the others are followers of Spirit Dragon but we dont have any evidence that they are being directly manipulated into the relationships they find themselves in.

    • Dissension

      As Grape detests the magic mumbo-jumbo, I reckon she is not one of Spirit Dragon’s followers.

      Again, the whole “everyone would know if Pete were lying” thing comes into play. We can trust the testimony to be factually accurate, I think. :3

      • IceKitsune

        Well we don’t know the exact conditions to be a follower. Just being Tarot/SD friend could make her be considered a Follower.

    • Valerio

      Pete can’t be lying to an omniscient being. he can try to bend some details, but the truth is in his words -unless he’s a total psycho completely engrossed in his own lies to believe in them with all his mind and soul.

  36. AppatheticCitizen

    “…I’d sorta promised the equivocation of human and animalkind.”

    I’m sorry if it seems pedantic, but the use of the word “equivocation” has been bugging me. How exactly is something being equivocated here? Doesn’t it mean something said in a misleading manner?

    I’m not sure if I’m just misunderstanding what Pete’s saying. Does it make sense to someone else?

    • Dissension

      Yes, it does make sense. :3 Equivocation = “to be called by the same name.” It can be used to indicate that human- and animal-kind will be made equal.

      • ApatheticCitizen

        I guess that makes sense. Something about the word seemed out of place when I first read it, and looking over dictionary definitions just further muddled up the sentence for me.

      • Argent Stonecutter

        Etymologically correct, but that’s not the word actually means. Though maybe Pete was trying to set himself up so he could claim he was just trying to keep them uncommitted. Or promising waffles for everyone!

        Equalization would be better.

      • Baxtrr

        I’m sorry, but this really smells to me like Rick was reaching for an appropriate word and picked the wrong one. “Equivocation” is a sort of logical landmine where you shift a word’s meaning in mid-use to arrive at a conclusion that looks sensible on the surface but is actually wrong. Equivocating humans and animals is meaningless. Establishing some sort of equivalency would make real sense in the context of the story.

        • Foxstar

          Rick is a English major, I’m pretty sure he knows what words mean what.

  37. Tailz

    I didn’t know Grape, Peanut and Fido were capable of becoming an avatar like Tarot.

  38. Indagare

    People seem to be reading too much into this. I have a feeling that Spirit Dragon did not manipulate things in the same way Pete tends to. Peanut was already in love with Grape from before. Grape realized she loved Max after the rain incident. There’s no evidence that Dragon has, in any way, been cruel. It’s even debatable how much she has actually manipulated things. Remember earlier Pete wondered why Tarot was still with Peanut even though it’s become obvious that Tarot loves Peanut without Dragon’s intervention.

  39. IceKitsune

    You know I was thinking about Peanut, Grape, and Fido’s Avatar powers and basically the only thing I can come up with is they all basically have the powers of Freddy Krueger

    • Valerio

      considering we still must understand WHAT a ‘dream sundererì dreams or is, I’d save that comment for another occasion

      • IceKitsune

        Well a Sunderer would be one who rips and tears or destroys. So a Dream Sunderer would be one who can destroy Dreams or Destroy from Dreams. Since Pete and the Judge said they can do both in the last panel.

  40. Kitch

    Add another tag: “copied frames” :p

    • Rick Griffin


      • DanTwelve3

        Though you are missing the double strip tag.

  41. SilverZeo

    Wait, if he can just affect people in dreams, than how could he do that standard “It was just a dream…or was it?” twist after the person woke up?

    • Argent Stonecutter

      Rule of funny.

    • nyathetexascat

      The whole thing could be dream over dream…
      Like movie Inception…

      • SilverZeo

        … then when did they woke up from the dream they woke up in?

  42. Argent Stonecutter

    1. Click on the “source of unspeakable power” tag. Was that there before?

    2. The off-putting figurines disprove the speculation about other eye colors than Tarot’s green being meaningful.

  43. Fox Jensen

    This is pretty hilarious…it’s been awhile since I have been on but it’s as funny as ever! Although I hope some people can catch me up on what’s been happening to King and Fox. I’m a big fan of theirs co-hence the name Fox jensen.

  44. Xodarap

    - Needs enormous amounts of either purity or imagination
    - Cannot be “in love” with anyone

    Res could be a Dream Sunderer

    • RedDwarfIV

      That would be perfect.

    • darastrixen

      Res is also in a really good place to sunder or manipulate the dreams of pretty much everyone who’s read his books…this is a scary line of thinking.

      • Argent Stonecutter

        Assuming we know what that means, and I don’t know about you but I’m not as smart as an omniscient judge…

    • Keldor

      “I can’t believe you killed off _____! _____ and _____ would have made such an awesome pair…”

      Dream sundered.

  45. DatGuy

    Am I the only one that likes the webcomic this way better? I’ve started reading it mostly because of this plot-line.

  46. Frank

    Oooh, so the mana pool was a literal pool?

    • legendario13

      That splashed my mind

      *Badum tsssh!*

  47. Draven

    Petes answer gives me flashbacks of my mother.

    • Draven


  48. VariedCookies

    I think I’m finally beginning to understand this… So king is Pete’s avatar?
    But he doesn’t have any powers, never mind the dream thingy.
    Nope, still totally lost.

    • Valerio

      no, King is no more an avatar. Whatever reason Pete chose him for, King is now a player ‘per se’, independent

      • Keldor

        King isn’t really a “player”, more a “disgruntled NPC”.

  49. Draven

    The little figurines would probably make an excellent store product.

    • VariedCookies

      Seconded and thirded. Although it’d be weird seeing the them all in 3D.
      But that good kinda weird…

  50. Kohaku Nightfang

    Well this comic just got crazy awesome and intertwined in many ways. Personally I believe both Pete and Dragon were in the wrong here. Maybe dragon didn’t full out force the pets to fall in love, but she did manipulate them into it, which is still wrong. Pete on the other hand of course broke rules to turn King into a dog and even though he was hard-pressed to find and avatar it was still wrong. Well we will see the verdict and what happens next soon :D

  51. Verp
  52. Verp

    (I did not put that where I wanted. Can I remove it somehow?)

  53. Darrow013

    those figurines I want them

  54. BillyMT

    “Uhm, your grace… Your two options have no difference at all…”

    You start having doubts about omnipresence when you see a deity questioning just like that XD

  55. Icalasari

    Will you ever release the rules for this game, because I want to play it D:

  56. Pogiforce

    so many words! D:

  57. TurtleCopter

    Oh lawd, that alt-text.

    Dang it Rick!

  58. Hoheh

    No idea how relevant it is, but Pete tried to get Grape ti trust him with a dream.

  59. illeatyourself

    Yes. One of the best one-liners (and possibly catchphrases :P ) EVER! XD

  60. Drakiel

    I wasn’t going to comment, but then I took an alt-text to the eyes….

  61. I like your hat

    petes not that bad of a animal god thing hes just a huge nerd geek xD

  62. rakaydos

    “You know, the kind of thing you do when you get plastered and start a cult for kicks…”
    “I am WELL aware of the kind.”

    Personally Bahamut? or just professionally as a judge? :3

    • Shoan

      Well, it could have been, ahem…. *looks over* DISSENSION? KESESESE

  63. HardCore64

    I am learning all kinds of DnD things!!!!

  64. king_dragon_death_wolf

    the bird thing is pure evil she or he needs to be put to death or locked up for ever and dragon it funny how cute her and penute is cute and weird right oh and king has changed and loves being a dog also right

    • Crackles

      I have no idea what’s going on in here.

  65. kingdeathwolf

    hey i think bird he/she should be kept locked up right? and penut and dragon they are cute and weird together right?um anyone know were king is at in this because i think he like being a dog now and not a person

  66. SoujiTheFox

    Pete is so great at explaining things.

    The alt-text killed my soul a little bit, too.

  67. adambluewolf

    dudes and dudets he is on his way to freedom

    • Maxwell

      (lowers ears).

  68. dibs

    i have to wonder how far you have this story planned out Rick, i’m certainly curious to see what happens. also, this is a cool way to finish up year 4, really divining into this plot line.

    • dibs

      just realized, i messed up, that should have said “diving” into this plot line

  69. Foxx

    Just by reading this arc my mind hurts and I haz no comprehension…CURSE WITTY SLAPSTICK!

  70. kingdeathwolf

    whens the new part coming

    • Dissension

      The comic updates Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at Midnight CST.

  71. Someone

    My guess:
    Fido / Peanut / Grape = Dream Sunderers (Yellow Eyes)
    Tarot / Max / Sabrina = Sovereign Spirits (Green eyes)

  72. spencershot4

    to bad king is in love with foxes cousin bailey

  73. spencershot4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W5XXnEXuWM is it a pc or a mac? YES!

  74. Dilce

    you’re a great professional for writing it, congrats.http://www.kitsucesso.com