A Game Of The Mind
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  1. 1boredcanadian

    mind over matter

    • 1boredcanadian

      Being first I mean. Chess isn’t that hard all you do is say “Look over there!” Then as your opponent is distracted you knock over the table. When they ask “What happened?” you say “A griffin, a really big one….um named Pete” and in the ensuing questioning of your sanity they back out and you win! That works in the real world right?

      • notyou

        speaking of griffins, I wonder if Pete knows Gilda…

        • The Bronze Gryphon

          Probably. They’re both jerks. Maybe they’re in the same “be mean to the protagonist” club.

    • rtlstien

      At least it was precognition chess instead of precognition tic tac toe

      Sabrina would probably always win if that was the case.

      Let’s see who can get the joke first. ^-^

      • Tynach

        Dunno what joke you’re trying to make, but Xkcd has a comic detailing the optimal tic-tac-toe moves.

        http://xkcd.com/832/

        • Profesor Rod

          Still, that’s one neat graphic :O

      • Cosmosis

        A tie would be a cat’s game. Sabrina is a cat.
        C’mon Tynach x3

        • rtlstien

          We have a winner!

  2. Dissension

    Like there’s any other kind of chess.

    • none

      the best part:

      if you know a good opening that your opponent doesn’t see, this comic is almost truthful.

      met a few people who could checkmate in under 10 moves if you didn’t know the opening.

  3. SilverZeo

    SURE, Checkmate, Tarot… whatever you say… the medium of a infinite size dragon can be the best at whatever she wants.

    • Tynach

      Or maybe, Peanut distracted Sabrina at a critical moment! Perhaps Sabrina’s freakishly tied up eye really was a significant handicap.

      Now they need to look into the future (or future of a parallel Universe) and see who would have won if Peanut had not interfered.

      • Frank

        Rematch?

        • Argent Stonecutter

          Quantum chess, where you get to see all the possible outcomes of each move.

          Tarot: Check, Mate 87%
          Sabrina: Check, Mate 9%
          Tarot: Draw 3%
          Sabrina: Peanut knocks the board over: 1%
          Tarot: Sudden clucking noises: 1%
          Peanut: What what what what…?
          Tarot: Called it!

      • Expletive Deleted

        Tarot was the one who tied her eye behind her back

  4. AuvaAkita

    Playing chess without moving a single piece? I love it!! Even though i suck at the game XD

    • maxmice

      Same here. Love the game, can’t play if my life depended on it.

    • C.S.

      I havent won a game of chess in over 2 years

  5. anon_omis

    Now to add in a speed timer like in Central Park.

  6. IceKitsune

    lol but why even set up the game pieces then?

    • Rick Griffin

      Because you need the intention of playing it! Of course after that, causality falls apart but we don’t care.

      • IceKitsune

        But wouldn’t thinking about intending to play it be the intention of playing it anyway?

        • Rick Griffin

          Perhaps, but at that point a likely future could be deciding not to play. Okay I’m just making up explanations, stop thinking about it too hard!

          • IceKitsune

            lol I know I was thinking about it to much :P I’m just having fun pointing out stuff like this when I see it.

          • AuvaAkita

            We will never stop questioning your awesome theories!!! :p

          • Tynach

            Agreed with AuvaAkita!

            ‘Course, I’m the type to propose my own theories as well.

            … I have way too much free time.

          • Argent Stonecutter

            Sabrina: “What a strange game, the only way to win is not to play.”

          • Kohaku Nightfang

            Maybe it already was set up and they just sat down to get ready to play their game of mind chess

        • darkgloomie

          I’m pretty sure that the spirits don’t like that and would punch you in the face for trying.

          It’s like deciding to read a book and then seeing in the future to know how it ends.

          It’s all about technicalities. Or, really, technicalikitties…
          http://www.housepetscomic.com/2010/03/19/technicalikitties/

          • Argent Stonecutter

            The really tough spirits will just think about punching you in the face, which gets really hard to explain at the emergency room.

      • Tynach

        Not necessarily – every decision theoretically splits the Universe in two: One Universe where they play chess, one Universe where they don’t. They simply need to have the intention of playing chess to cause both Universes to exist, and then they simply look into the future of the OTHER Universe to find who won.

        If you count each chess move as another Universe split, and also count each subsequent possible move set that each of them makes off of those splits, it turns into a battle of who can most accurately and consistently determine all sets of Universes in order to find the desired outcome.

        And of course, a battle of who can make it most probable (as that determines the structure of the alternate universes – I imagine it sorta as a tree structure similar to that of filesystems) that they win.

        • AuvaAkita

          O.o I’m not even gonna touch this *backs away slowly*

          • Tynach

            I not only have too much free time, but I also have an obsession about alternate universes.

            I blame that.

          • Grip the Wolf

            I will handle this the way I would handle the task of defusing a bomb. *Takes a deep breath* Okay, here we go. OH MY GOD!! *Blue Screen of Death* Okay, I’m good now.

            And Tynach, stop making excuses, It’s pretty obvious where the blame REALLY lies. *Glances at Tynach’s gravatar image* Someones been watching too much Doctor Who! Wait, you can’t watch too much Doctor Who. Now I’m even more confused!

        • rallyjr

          “Observants look at time like they’re watching a parade. One thing after another, passing by in sequence right in front of them. I see the parade from above. All the twists and turns it might, or might not, take.” never thought i would get to use that

          • Tynach

            Where’s that from?

          • rallyjr

            Clockwork from danny phantom… i think

        • Argent Stonecutter

          Actually, what happens is the state vector of the universe becomes more complex, until the classical view of the state vector can only be described in terms of two non-correlated interactions. We call these “different universes”. While it appears that the universe “split” at the decision point, the classical divergence in the state vector may have (and almost certainly did) happen long before the “decision” took place. It is likely that there are a large and possibly infinite sets of “universes” in which the decision went each way.

          If you want to read more, I recommend _All the Myriad Ways_ by Larry Niven.

          • Tynach

            Sounds awesome :D

            Will look into that book.

          • Argent Stonecutter

            It’s a short story.

          • Argent Stonecutter

            So I went out and re-read it. And now I want to disrecommend it. It makes the same mistake I was talking about.

        • Profesor Rod

          Ah, the good level III many-world multiverse.

          Well, look at this! They are not splitting universes until they give an utterance :D

          Speaking about a battle of who can most accurately and consistently determine all sets of moves in order to find the desired outcome, this is exactly how AI for chess programs work. The most advanced programs actually can look at 19-20 moves ahead while master level humans can only go for 12-14. Deepblue was capable of evaluation of 8 million of positions per seconds back in 2006.

          • Argent Stonecutter

            That’s why they’re not calling them “AI” any more, because they aren’t using deep understanding of chess strategy… they’re just being stupid very very fast.

        • Sansash

          You cannot alter THIS reality while inside the Source Code!

    • GameCobra

      A medium to help out Sabrina of course.

    • FlynnDawg

      If I may cut in… this is the LONGEST and SMARTEST reply thread caused by a single question I’ve seen on this comic in forever. Congratulations! You’ve won a… actually you will win in the future. Although, now that I’ve told you, there’s the possibility you WON’T get the prize, but that knowledge isn’t what’s going to drive you insane. It’s the question of what would be your prize in the dimension I’m speaking of.

  7. Exulen

    How do you tie one eye behind your back? O.o

  8. TheCrimsonFox

    awww! i was going for Sabrina, lol

  9. leaffly

    Hmm. I am interested now :3

  10. Normal Black Cat

    Wait. Tarot’s eye is green.
    That’s mean the one who play is dragon?

    • Elwood Blutarsky

      No, her eyes turn green when she uses her powers too.

    • Keldor

      Wait a minute – if Tarot has one eye tied behind her back, wouldn’t only one of them turn green?

  11. Sonic Fox

    Kinda takes the fun out it, but okies. X3

    • Tynach

      If my post above is right, it completely transforms the game into something far more intricate than us mere humans can comprehend (easily).

      Probably fun for psychics and/or transdimensional beings.

  12. Luis

    Nice! I love the games you make for the comic. Well, I simply love the comic. Good for Tarot, but I think she has some advantage… Maybe she’s not the dragon, but the real Tarot?

  13. VOLK

    I like how Tarot’s bubble is outside of the box…

  14. Nohbody

    I’m sure being able to cut/paste 3/4ths of the strip, with Peanut being added in the background of panels 2 and 3, was purely coincidental, and not Rick being lazy or anything like that… :P

    (I’m joking, in case it wasn’t obvious.)

  15. FantasticMrWolf

    LOLZ! Love it!

  16. the1truesushiboy

    If it’s precognitive, any attempt at checkmate would invalidate itself, provided both parties can see equally as far into the future.

    • rallyjr

      Knowing whats coming doesn’t mean you can prevent it, eventually one of them would run out of moves

  17. BlueAnubis

    Great game, though not quite as fun as dueling with Ancient Egyptian Laserbeams.

  18. Sigurd

    Did something similar to that in my so-jitsu (Japanese spear) class once. My wife and I went into guard position twenty seconds later we came out of guard and I had one the sparring match. The only ones who knew what the outcome of the match other than my wife and I was the sensei. He then told us not to do it again because it confused everybody else. We both agreed later on exactly how the match would have played out had we actually had moved.

    • Frank

      Win!

      Also, sounds like the Sensei needs to watch more Dragon Ball

  19. rallyjr

    so dose this mean that they now have to play through the game that they just foresaw there by making it true or do they not and there by making the future they sow a lie?

    • WingedWolfGirl

      That’s what I was wondering (although, I was afraid to ask it for fear my head would explode).

  20. Tapewolf

    Oh nice. Wish I’d thought of that.

  21. xhunterko

    Oh come on Tarot. Crush her. She’ll learn more that way.

    • Dissension

      Or…

      Or… Sabrina would be crushed and lose all desire to learn the game; if someone’s introduced to something with a constant expectation to lose, what motivation do they have to learn and play in the future, to become great themselves? Granted, it’s possible to do so through desire to overcome the ‘oppressor,’ but should one really seek to be more a rival than a friend? *shrugs*

      • deathcloak

        or your thinking too much because that’s just how they are, they probably dont think about anythign more than face value well other than the dragon also sabrina is tarots student so there is bound to be times when she needs to test her to make sure her powers is growing still and going easy on her wont help her learn

      • xhunterko

        Or, are we really over looking a crucial factor. Exactly WHO’S eye is Tarot hiding behind her back?

  22. Tara

    Sabrina looks…different to me somehow. o.o

    • 1boredcanadian

      I think the fur is more detailed but I might be wrong.

    • Grip the Wolf

      Yeah, I think she looks a bit like a dog in this strip. Not a lot like one, but just a bit. I wonder if Rick is trying out new drawing styles? Either way, the muzzle looks a bit too long for a cat.

      • deathcloak

        the last frame looks good to me

    • Frank

      Her winter coat is growing in

    • Draven

      It’s her serious face that’s throwing us off, I think she looks adorable.

  23. 1boredcanadian

    It’s pointless comment time! When is King going to be back?

    • Dissension

      King will be back when he’s back. This comic has several primary characters; King is not the sole star. There was a King-centric arc not too long ago.

    • Argent Stonecutter

      King has never left, he just happens to be off-camera right now.

    • darkgloomie

      He’s been here all the time, he’s just gracious enough to give people some spotlight.

  24. gaboris

    Meh chessfreaks do that AL the time without any powers. :D

  25. Draven

    That’s basically what chess is anyway, just not as advanced. I also love green eye Tarot.

  26. Grip the wolf

    So… this is more precognitive than normal chess? I didn’t think that could be possible.

  27. WingedWolfGirl

    “I predict that you’ll move here.”
    “Well I predict that you’ll move there”
    So on a so forth…

    • Grip the Wolf

      Nappa: GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! I see what you’re about to do there!

  28. Grip the Wolf

    I just remembered something. You can’t call checkmate if you haven’t called check. Or I could be wrong. It’s been a while since I’ve played a game of chess.

    • deathcloak

      no ur mostly right you can only call checkmate when your sure you have won the game check is when you got the king but the person needs to “check” to make sure they didn’t lose or if they did lose

    • Argent Stonecutter

      She predicted that she’d call check, so she didn’t actually have to do it.

    • Nebulous

      The problem is that you also have to tell how many moves until the check or mate.
      Touches queen’s knight.
      “Mate in 153 moves”
      Touches king’s bishop’s pawn
      “Mate in 87 moves”
      Touches king’s knight
      “Mate in 23 moves”
      “Good, I don’t have time for a long game.”
      moves knight.

    • Sansash

      Way I remember, you call check when you are capable of taking the king in the next move. The opponent then must move the king out of danger. It’s checkmate when the king can’t move out of danger.

      • Corgiwolf

        Pretty close. You call check when you are capable of taking the king in the current move, but it can be blocked by other pieces. Checkmate means that it cannot be blocked.

        And obviously the move cannot be blocked, because it already occurred in whatever alternate universe Tynach is in.

    • Sansash

      (So, you wouldn’t necessarily require check before checkmate)

    • Indagare

      She could also have called check sometime before Peanut arrived.

    • Grip the Wolf

      *reads all of the replies* Thank you everyone.

  29. Sansash

    “Would you like a piece of candy?”
    “Do you already know whether I’m going to take it or not?”
    “Wouldn’t be much of an oracle if I didn’t.”

    “What’s so amazing about a rat running through a bloody maze!?”
    “I only built the maze this morning! I won’t teach her how to run it until an hour from now!”

  30. kitsune353

    cheater she looked ahead to turn 7 when we were only suppose to Devin up to turn 6 to allow the butterfly affect to take work.

  31. Matthew

    Anyone wanna play with me?

  32. Rivus

    Its all the choice of Steins Gate!

  33. Z24

    Why play? You can already tell who’s gonna lose before even starting!

    • yehoshua

      If they don’t play, there will be no future to look forward to thus making it impossible for Tarot to know if she won or not.

  34. Corgiwolf

    It’s final: Tarot is my new favourite character. She is just so /adorable/ in this! Then again, I’ve always thought she was especially adorable. :3

    • Tuctchone

      i made that decision a loooooong time ago lol

    • Argent Stonecutter

      Hugs Tarot!

      (Tarot: “Ferret germs!”)

    • Aenbr

      Agreed.

  35. MrMutt

    I’d have to take a long break just to clear up my head from considering all the possibilities of the first two moves on one side.

  36. Argent Stonecutter

    Everything that could have happened!

  37. One-Who-Howls

    Pregogniton Chess? I Don’t Get It……

    • Nohbody

      Precognition is knowing something before it happens. In this case, it’s knowing the moves that happen before they’re actually made, and in this case not bothering to physically move the pieces.

      • One-Who-Howls

        Thanks For Explaining That. :3 And That’s Kinda Creepy. XD

  38. Roadrunner

    wow So Funny XD

  39. yehoshua

    I play chess a lot and I approve.

    Unfortunately I only have a silver medal and not a gold one so my argument is not valid.

    • Grip the Wolf
      • yehoshua

        A big part of chess has to do with predicting the opponent’s next move. Chess is a strategy game but it can also very well be a gamble.

        • Grip the wolf

          All I was saying was that your argument is valid… also, it took me forever to find that again. I should have searched Very Demotivational in the beginning :P

      • Draven

        You win a gold star sticker, for perfect use of a demotivational. Congratulations.

        • Draven

          You know what? That made me smile so much, you win two stickers.

  40. Disk333

    Tarot: “It’s so easy I can even do it blindfolded!”

  41. Pogiforce

    the wallpaper at Tarot’s house is weird. Just saiyan.

  42. junnur

    This is beautiful! I really love the different article. What a great decoration! I think I should try one. If only I had more time.

  43. Islandpride

    That’s so awesome