or it may be the kind of comic where those who don’t like Bino will have even more reason to dislike him and Bino fans remain unaffected. I’m not going to force anyone to like or hate any of the characters
Am I the only one who officially hate Bino now? I mean honestly he’s just a brat, even before this I never really did care for him but now I just think he’s the biggest jerk in this whole comic.
True, but he’s not letting King have the watch, even though he want’s it and Bino doesn’t actually care, AND he’s so willing to break it right in front of him out of spite… That actually goes to a level beyond jerk, but I can’t actually say the word due to the fact that this is a PG rated comic.
Well from Bino’s perspective, King did manage to get his girlfriend to “turn against” him to get that watch… what do you think Bino consider King for doing that?
Even if he doesn’t know what he is doing, people are ignoring the fact that he knows that watch is King’s and/or its very important to him for some reason. Bino also doesn’t really want it, but is so petty that he wants it just so King can’t have it, even going as far as to smash it in front of him while forcing him to watch just to account for the fact that King might manage to steal it back from him in the future, he doesn’t want it enough to destroy it, just as long as King can’t have it.
That goes far beyond just “being a jerk” if you ask me, hes an outright monster.
And any a reader here would agree with you. On a related note, they left Sasha alone up there and did nothing to prevent her from simply following them down here. Should she see any, or better all of this up to this point, how do you think she will react to what her boyfriend is doing to King?
Yes I really don’t like him myself (second least favorite character actually, first being Tarot because IMO shes boring when she really shouldn’t be but that’s another topic) However he doesn’t know what the watch is (though I think that would just make him use it for a different purpose) and he think it belongs to a criminal who most likely is long gone as far as he knows so why should he care.
You know what I bet the Watch will be broken but nothing will happen to it soul wise (or what will happen might be a good thing for King) and Bino will give it back to King and the guy will come from heaven to pick it up.
Or breaking the watch may simply end the existence of Joel and leave him forever as King, with a new fate for “King” being brought into being. And yes I am aware that Pete already implied that he was going to remain a dog but there is a difference between having the choice to return him and not doing so, and siad choice no longer being avalible.
That could also be possible. I think however that there is no way to know for sure what exactly will happen in this case because we know absolutely nothing about the Watch and what it even does in the first place. There is just to many possibilities and not enough information to make a good solid guess.
I get the feeling that the hammer is just going to break on the watch without even scratching it. Thus leading to a montage of Bino trying to break the watch.
I’ve only ever seen Bino this violent before in fanfics… This comic proves to me once and for all that Bino is my least favorite character. btw, nice try Joey but unfortunately it wasn’t enough.
also: what’s up with the alt text? kinda freaking me out.
Bino: The guy we love to hate (despite his random acts of cuteness)
The alt text is either Rick still messing with us, or we’re getting ready to see Sasha slap him hard, get the watch and give it to King
I was under the same expression too. I though it was Bino mocking Joey, who turns out to beat him up with ease, kinda like how Martin Prince beat up the vullies in the Simpsons Movie…
I thought King was a bit more tougher then that. I mean once the bigger dog get’s him yeah ok. But he should be able to put up more of a fight with Bino. Bino needs to be punished… bad!
Only if he has learned how to stop being their chew toy…
Then yeah I would agree but if he got caught off-guard while perched in a tree…then even so might have found himself in a tough spot.
Mad doks are doctors for orks in warhammer 40,000. They are utterly insane in the ways they “fix” things, often adding unnecessary “upgrades” to their patients. They cut other orks apart for the sheer heck of it. Your behavior matches a mad doks. To sum it up. You’re completely insane. Please don’t cut me apart.
Fox is not a minion, as he proved being able to break a part or two of Bino, given enough motivation.
Rex is a hardcore minion…and it’s no wonder why.
I wonder how Boris & Eltstyin can call ‘boss’ such a jerk,..
All I can say is either one of five things will happen.
A. Bino smashes the clock, and King dissipates into oblivion. (Cause isn’t that his soul or something?)
B. Same as A but instead King remains and Bino proceeds forward. (which I doubt.)
C.Sasha saves the day…
D. Joey attempts to save him again and again countless times.
E. Spot (SuperDog) saves King.
I think Joeys going to try to save him again, or Binos two new minions betray him. (lol added # 6)
A: PLEEEEEAAAASE NO!!!
B: to anticlimactic, unlikely
C: PLEEEEEAAAASE YES!!!!
D: rick wouldn’t use that joke over and over. joey might return but if he does, it will be with help
E: unlikely, but that would be cool. Though apart from a guest comic, we never see Spot “superdog” outside Peanut’s comics or Tarot’s mental “holodeck” projection
I vote for option A1:
Bino hits the watch with the hammer, the watch survives and the hammer breaks somehow.
Or B1:
Bino destroys the watch and something really awesome happens next (Something like the time stops or something happens to King, I dunno.)
Or Bino smashes the watch and 2 things happen.
1. All the dogs tell Bino off, considering him going to far.
2. King just snaps, busts free, and continually whaling on Bino while swearing up a storm until Bino both cries and bleeds in a manner of that scene from the Christmas Story…
My opinion is that, if Bino were to hit the watch with a hammer, the hammer would smash into pieces itself or would do nothing. Or, and this is my favourite, and I think someone mentioned it above: Bino proceeds to smash “Joel’s” fate-watch, and a new one appears in its place in heaven for King.
Now that would be awesome.
Boris-Firetrucking-Yeltsin!!! I Didn’t like that guy that much, but it is still a Soviet/Russian reference.
Anyway, going back to the main subject, looks like our unexpected ‘hero’ has been erased for the day, King has been compromised and captured by Bino’s henchmen (right… Russians on the bad side, how unexpected… still, it is fun) but, by judging the Alt Text, there’s more cards coming out of Sasha’s sleev- uh, biscuits coming out of Sasha’s collar! mmmmmhhhhh… biscuits…
Soviet?
The Soviet Union started falling apart in January 1990. Yeltsin was elected chairman of Russia in May 1990, and (once the USSR was gone) elected president in July 1991! If anything, he’s the one that got the Soviets out of Russia.
Wait, wasn’t Gorbachev the first president of the Russian Federation? Oh well, still, I think Yeltsin has a little bit of Soviet Union on him.
*literally, starts investigating, again, about Russian history*
OK! After investigating about this two interesting characters, I found that Gorvachov was the last president of the USSR, which means, for that reason, that somehow I got confused between this two characters.
In short, I just got confused by their positions on the government.
I still don’t like Yeltsin.
Assuming that the projected area of the watch as it falls averages at around 30 square centimeters, I’d say around 33 m/s (73 miles/hour)? Of course, I’m making a lot of assumptions here (and it’s been two years since Physics 220. I’m a chemist, not a physicist!).
Ordinary physics doesn’t apply. Ever seen a spaceship reentering the atmosphere? Friction with the air engulfs it in flames. That watch would have to have been red-hot when it hit King, and yet he calmly picked it off the ground
It can also be argued that it did not in fact fall from space, per say, but through some dimensional rift; seeing the point of origin. The scene shift could then be just that, and not a travel log. In witch case the actual distance it fell could easily be measured in feet, not light years.
In a show called “Dead Like Me” (don’t watch it kids.) the main character got killed by a space toilet seat lid traveling at roughly 200 mph… but that’s just a tv show.
It’s a bit of a conflicting moment for me. It’s like Bear Nuts by Alison Acton — the characters are so cute and lovable that you can’t help but go “Aww, look at him! He’s being mean-spirited and conniving! I just want to hug him!”
Gaboris naivity rage count #2: Grrroarrr!!! D:< Dang it Bino you see what you made me do? XP Oh yeah and when did you get those henchmen Bino? XD
BTW Boris? Yeltsin? The COMMUNISTS are invading! D:
PS: Not even gonna say how I feel about poor Joey.
I am noticing a lot of “Bino haters” around this one. But hasn’t anyone notice that King/Joel brought this part on himself? I am not defending Bino, Bino is a bully that part is true, should he be locked up? no cause that won’t cure him. All what King has done to this point cause this event to happen, I mean for god sakes he still hasn’t change his attitude toward animals other then Fox. he hiding the truth from them, and he saw the watch, he first dumped it to avoid connection. Then when he found out he needed it and Bino had it, instead of telling Fox the truth and get some help, he Instead sneaked around and tries to take it from Bino through his girlfriend. When his undermining scheme didn’t work and he got caught he now call out desperately to fix his screw up. He claims he doesn’t like getting his strings pulled but look at what he tried to do, just because he got caught doesn’t excuse the fact of what he did. At this point even if the watch is taken and given to king, there no doubt his identity will be revealed. And the moment that King/Joel blame dogs for this mistake that he cause from his sneaking around and using other dogs to get something he wanted, rather then do the right thing is when I lose all faith in King for his salvation.
1) can you blame King for NOT telling anything? I mean, not the smartest thing to do…that is, provided he’s considered sane of mind for talking about magical griffins and The Game
2) Bino is being a constant disgrace to the pet dog community. He’d need a SERIOUS lesson not only for now, but for all the times he tried to make other pets’ life miserable. So far, we liked the funny endings to his endeavours, but now he’s crossing a line
3) King threw away the watch…because he didn’t want anything to do with his old life, perhaps?
4) Give King some orange soda and he’ll try to be a LOT more amiable. So far, he’s been doing a lot of progresses, considering where he comes from…
Other than that, I *do* hope Fox concede him forgiveness, should he learn the truth
Im with you Valerio, Bino is a real bellend sometimes, he just gets in peoples faces, likes to mess their lives up and because, he seems to be lacking in most departments.
Joel had past trauma from his pets which is why he did what he did, he had no idea that his partner was going to kill Fox, and you know, I really think his new life as King means alot more to him then going back to his old life.
I agree with every point Valerio brought up… except the orange soda, i can put myself in king’s shoes, I don’t get along with alot of people and until they approach me and get to know me, I come off as a real jerk, King is alot like that too.
Sasha is such a sweet girl, comes from a rather i suppose abusive alcoholic home, and King could really take care of her since they already have a history together.
(I SMELL A ROMANCE.COMING ON)
Also, Im diggin the new mindless moggies that bino has added to his collection. I’m glad Rex isnt here, i think even he has sense enough to see this as cruel
I don’t blame King for not saying anything cause he human after all and truth is hidden when one doesn’t want to face the consequences. In King case, being alone and put into jail. I am sure Joel is accustomed to his new life but he always seem to be fearful of the truth. Even worse he knows of the game, he know the rules (somewhat) and instead of playing the game.. he avoid it like the plague. thinking it just going to go away on it own. So when the game catches up to him (cause he a part of it now), he act angry like the world is against him. No I blame him, as much improvement he made as King, he still show distrust. The only thing that could save him was Sasha, but even then King is as much to blame as the griffin that force him into this life.
He is, just like the rest of us, and you know the cool part about being human? we get choices, we can choose to tell the truth or not, we can chose to be a friend or use a person for our own personal gain. we can choose play a game or do nothing at all. We can choose to hate or to forgive. King/Joel had choices, he had opportunities, he just made the wrong ones and he got where he is now. And now if Bino goes through with his actions, King may choose to hate again, thus losing what little hope he had in this world of Babylon.
same reason why no able person has come to his aid yet. (Poor Joey, he need to get some karate lessons or something). Cause the people that do know can’t really do anything to help him, and those that can help him don’t know cause he afraid that he will lose his second chance. I honestly hope the watch doesn’t get broken, but if it does then Joel will be broken, and it going to take a lot (even a miracle) to pull him out.
yea.. it does seem that way.. but he kinda push it to that scenario, having little options, going with the quickest route to goal without raising any red flags. there weren’t many gray situations for King, and the ones he did get weren’t appealing to him ( other then avoiding the game). I have to say though for his situation I feel bad for him not many humans can tough it out like he did after being turn into a dog, and learning about multi-universes and heaven, and celestial beings. He react like anyone would hell I would do the same myself. But I still stick with that in the end it the choices we make that determine our fate. I think the moment King realize that the game will be begin for him and breaking the watch won’t break him and the real fun can begin.
Bino is simply being a jerk. he doesn’t really care about the watch and would rather destroy it than let King have it. From the start, Bino hasn’t even given King a chance and has been unconditionally against him.
King indeed has been deceptive. But then again, we didn’t see much of what transpired between King and Sasha so we don’t know how manipulative he is being. Also, do you blame him for keeping his past life a secret? Anyone who believed him would basically shun him and everyone who didn’t would just think he’s crazy.
The thing that sets King and Bino apart in my opinion is that King at least is trying to be a better person. Events (namely Bino) don’t seem to be helping that, however.
On the forums, I made a post regarding whether it would be interesting to view the situation from Bino’s perspective:
“Shorty’s trying to take my place. He’s stealing my friends away from me. So what if he found this watch first? He didn’t want it last night. Why does he want it now? Because I have it. He’ll do whatever it takes to get it from me. He even tricked Sasha into helping him. I’ll smash the watch, then I won’t have to be on guard all the time.”
Remember, the watch has no value to Bino; it’s just a thing he found in the trash. He used it to make a few puns and probably would have eventually disposed of it himself if King hadn’t come along and demanded it from him. He’s insecure and paranoid. King’s taking Bino’s best friend and girlfriend from him. King ignored the ‘warning’ Bino gave at the Christmas party. He won’t submit to Bino’s dominant personality and that’s a threat.
that may be. I can see that from Bino’s point of view but that doesn’t mean I have to like how he handles the situation It’s part of dramatic irony, we as the audience know much more about the situation than Bino does, but still. Bino’s motives are flawed, he just wants to remain “top dog”. He overreacts to anything that he sees as threatening his standing.
I still empathize more with King rather than Bino, though.
Woa, didn’t expect that many people to know who Boris Yeltsin is %)
Btw, that person doesn’t have anything to do with Soviets, he was first president of Russia Federation after it ended being USSR.
One has to wonder the cosmic horror that would occur if the watch were to be smashed. What would become of King? Or better yet, is it able to be destroyed at all? Or would it ascend its physical form upon destruction, and return to the ethereal sphere of light it started as? Would its destruction unhinge the fabric of reality itself?
How did I manage to make so many questions out of Bino being a jerk with a hammer?
I would suppose (since that watch is his fate) that he would be hurt and/or be badly injured with every hit from the hammer. But then again, when pete was trying to steal his fate, it fell out of his hands and it hit the ground below (who knows how many stories it fell) and it was still in one piece. So i’d have to assume that the watch is in-fact indestructable. But in the case of it NOT being indestructable, i would assume the worst for King/Joel if it were to break.
I think Bino just out jerk Pete. Even though Pete turned Joel into a dog for his own benefits, Joel’s life as King did teach him a few things, Bino is doing this just to for a shallow victory to make himself feel big for, like, the rest of the day….
I love how everyone arbitrarily treats the watch as a matter of life and death even though King is the only one who is aware or affected by of the gravity of the situation
While that is true, what were his motivations for co-founding it? Just because someone starts a good and just group, it does not mean they did it for good and/or noble reasons.
Congratulations, crowd and Rick. This madness has drawn a level 37 lurker from his lair.
But first, I have to say this: this is an amazing comic, Rick, and you should feel amazing. This is one of a select few webcomics I follow seriously out of dozens that I have looked at.
Now, on to the debate!
I’m taking Bino’s side on this. Yes, he is a jerk. However, Bino doesn’t know even half of the story. All Bino can see is “King wants the watch I found. He tricked my girlfriend into betraying my trust in order to get it. It probably would be best to just get rid of the problem now.”
Also, I can’t see the alt text (dang iPod…) so I can only use my wits to guess what’s next. But, I find it quite interesting how no one remembers that King has two certain “gifted” friends, at least one of which can become a giant green dragon…
Is anyone else weirded out by Sash’s comment? “Oh Biney, your neck is so…much like a pencil” Doesn’t that sound like if King didn’t jump in, she was going to snap his neck like a pencil? o.o;
I think your going to see a Deathbed Confession. King is going to close his eyes and thinking he is dead going to yell out that he is Joel and is he so sorry and beg for Fox to forgive him. He will open his eyes and Fox will be holding back Bino and everyone will have a shocked look on their face.
Failing that Bino smashes the Watch and King is ok… and the great Kitsune comes into his dream and tells him his like as Joel is now dead, and he is now just King and can never go back to being Human ever. We will see a new Orb in heaven with King’s name on it…
A hammer having no effect. He looks confused and smashes harder. He eventually either injured himself or ends up giving one final tink, getting zapped by divine lightning in the process
Did not expect that at all. Ha ha ha, poor Joey, he got like, launched out that door.
Yeah, poor Joey, he just wanted to he–*gets bagged and dumped into a river by random dogs*
*throws Beef Jerky to the dogs, then pulls you out of the river*
Blurbrlbrblrbl!!!
Aww I thought Joey was actually going to save the day
I hoped he would… but all in all I’m really not surprised. Poor Joey.
Just not his moment I guess…
Maybe he just needed some old spice.
because anything’s possible when you smell like old spice and not a Joey.
Memes no longer allowed in comments?
Why did my comment reply to this?
1. That thing about sunglasses has been out of bounds for quite a while.
2. Your comment replies to whichever “reply” button you’ve clicked on most recently.
Alright Dissension sorry won’t happen again.
Don’t worry about it, just have fun and embrace the silly nature of the comic!
That’s what I’ve been doing for the past 8 months
What about the “deal with it” meme then?
:3
I try not to ban memes until they start becoming like every third comment, at which point it’s just really annoying
Gotta say that I wasn’t expecting this…
Actually I kinda did, but I expected more stuff happening before we got to this part.
Also, Bino’s a jerk. I know this was already obvious, but no to this level.
Aww, poor Joey!
Well, Bino did have henchmen to help throw Joey out. Now where did those henchmen come from and why do I imagine them speaking with an Italian accent?
The Good Ol’ Dogs Club has a lot of members, I’d guess. Some of them are muscle-bound toughs, apparently. ;3
As for the accent, that’s stereotypical! *giggles*
Unfortunately, stereotypes really do have an odd tendency to be true 75% of the time.
Did you know that 80% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
with names like Boris and Yeltsin, I see them with Russian accents.
I was thinking the same thing.
Ze vad doggey musht ztay outzide!
Poor Joey =(
Bino is the master of hiding his neck off-comic!
Yeah, I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed, you never see his neck in this one either.
bino’s neck must be willson!
Oh man. Bino really doesn’t know what he’s doing…
Notice how no one else could hear King being dragged down the stairs.
Well, Boris and Yeltsin probably are the type to ignore that, with their attitudes and all… XD
What about everyone else. Everyone else who lives there must be deaf. They didn’t hear someone BEING DRAGGED DOWN THE STAIRS.
It’s entirely possible no one else is there.
Bino is such a jerk! He needs to be locked in a kennel. :3
Yep. He’s already dragged Rex into a redo of his “naked” adventure, and now this…
Oh, he’ll get his sweet retribution…
I hereby second Fuzzypaws, Bino totally derserves to be locked in a kennel, or the pound.
My respect for Bino just doubled because he’s staring to become a mafia boss.
He’s the Dogfather.
*ba-dum-tish*
BINO!!! WHY!?!!?!?!?
Bino fans may cease to exist at this point
then again, unlikely. This is the internet after all, anything that can happen will happen.
…unless it doesn’t.
I’m still a big-time Bino fan. : )
Then you have decreed yourself a heretic.
Err… i just realized that might not make any sense. ignore it.
He’s a horse’s derriere, man.
Then I guess you must be a Porky Minch fan too….
or it may be the kind of comic where those who don’t like Bino will have even more reason to dislike him and Bino fans remain unaffected. I’m not going to force anyone to like or hate any of the characters
OH NOOOOOO JOEY
now squeak will destroy them all!
Or that oddly colored street cat would come out of nowhere the p’wn everyone and save King and give him a big bowl of vanilla ice cream
Am I the only one who officially hate Bino now? I mean honestly he’s just a brat, even before this I never really did care for him but now I just think he’s the biggest jerk in this whole comic.
cue Dissension defending Bino.
and I think he’s a jerk, but without jerks, there’d be no plot to anything.
I don’t think he exactly knows what he is doing. I don’t think he would actually mean to kill King.
Looks to me like he’s going to try to smash the watch…
True, but he’s not letting King have the watch, even though he want’s it and Bino doesn’t actually care, AND he’s so willing to break it right in front of him out of spite… That actually goes to a level beyond jerk, but I can’t actually say the word due to the fact that this is a PG rated comic.
is it another word for donkey or for a child without a father?
For the latter, I think “child born to unmarried parents” or “child of illegitimate birth” would be more accurate.
you can always fall back to “Son of a charming young woman!”
I’m not saying he isn’t. I fully agree with you, but I think we do have to remember that he doesn’t know the exact nature of the watch.
Well from Bino’s perspective, King did manage to get his girlfriend to “turn against” him to get that watch… what do you think Bino consider King for doing that?
Even if he doesn’t know what he is doing, people are ignoring the fact that he knows that watch is King’s and/or its very important to him for some reason. Bino also doesn’t really want it, but is so petty that he wants it just so King can’t have it, even going as far as to smash it in front of him while forcing him to watch just to account for the fact that King might manage to steal it back from him in the future, he doesn’t want it enough to destroy it, just as long as King can’t have it.
That goes far beyond just “being a jerk” if you ask me, hes an outright monster.
And any a reader here would agree with you. On a related note, they left Sasha alone up there and did nothing to prevent her from simply following them down here. Should she see any, or better all of this up to this point, how do you think she will react to what her boyfriend is doing to King?
many* missed that one =P
Also missed alt text….but still makes me wonder.
Yes I really don’t like him myself (second least favorite character actually, first being Tarot because IMO shes boring when she really shouldn’t be but that’s another topic) However he doesn’t know what the watch is (though I think that would just make him use it for a different purpose) and he think it belongs to a criminal who most likely is long gone as far as he knows so why should he care.
However he is still a massive jerk.
I’d like to defend him, but he’s The Undefendable
the only “defense” for this is that he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Beyond that, there’s no denying he’s a huge jerk. and a bully.
Hmmm this can’t be good at all. Can’t wait to see what happens next good thing there will be less waiting then normal.
You know what I bet the Watch will be broken but nothing will happen to it soul wise (or what will happen might be a good thing for King) and Bino will give it back to King and the guy will come from heaven to pick it up.
usually, the peak of evilness is followed by the triumph of good…
But this is RICK, not any author
Or breaking the watch may simply end the existence of Joel and leave him forever as King, with a new fate for “King” being brought into being. And yes I am aware that Pete already implied that he was going to remain a dog but there is a difference between having the choice to return him and not doing so, and siad choice no longer being avalible.
That could also be possible. I think however that there is no way to know for sure what exactly will happen in this case because we know absolutely nothing about the Watch and what it even does in the first place. There is just to many possibilities and not enough information to make a good solid guess.
I get the feeling that the hammer is just going to break on the watch without even scratching it. Thus leading to a montage of Bino trying to break the watch.
Four delicious panels of Bino being flustered and pounding to no avail.
*Bam!* … *BAM!* … *Bam Bam Bam!* …
And so on.
I’ve only ever seen Bino this violent before in fanfics… This comic proves to me once and for all that Bino is my least favorite character. btw, nice try Joey but unfortunately it wasn’t enough.
also: what’s up with the alt text? kinda freaking me out.
Bino: The guy we love to hate (despite his random acts of cuteness)
The alt text is either Rick still messing with us, or we’re getting ready to see Sasha slap him hard, get the watch and give it to King
Maybe we will get treated to a showdown. CUE MUSIC! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ9q8DwBBus
what ever happened to the classic “the good, the bad, and the ugly”? (i can play that on my ocarina
)
Its good, but overused, i wanted timesplitters cause IT WAS A FREAKING AWESOME GAME, and the music fit a showdown between off and on lovers
I find this fits Joey better though, I dare you to try and play it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd-Ez9_9CpA&feature=related
is it just me, or does Joey look more like Bino than usual in panel 7? just make his eyes green and get rid of the “j” tag and spot.
I was confused at first, too.
I wasn’t confused, it’s just that that facial expression just looks more Bino-ish than Joey-ish.
They ARE both brothers… so….
I was under the same expression too. I though it was Bino mocking Joey, who turns out to beat him up with ease, kinda like how Martin Prince beat up the vullies in the Simpsons Movie…
Joey needs to use his artsy anime furry role-playing skills to beat them!
he’d probably fail all his saving throws
OOOOOOR he’s wearing a +10 resilience ring!
He is too powerful for that! He happens to be an epic tier Paladin!
Get Squeak to rescue the watch while they’re distracted by Joey?
I thought King was a bit more tougher then that. I mean once the bigger dog get’s him yeah ok. But he should be able to put up more of a fight with Bino. Bino needs to be punished… bad!
I kinda thought that too, I mean King is small but he could fight better than that right?
Leverage plays a part in this, not just strength or fighting ability.
Perhaps, but I still think he could have done better.
Sasha to the rescue?
let’s hope so. c’mon, Sasha!
What does King know about dogfighting?
yeah but he was human and did kidnap dogs so he must know someway of handling them
“Be twice as tall and three times as strong” doesn’t translate well when you’re half Bino’s size.
He has to live with the wolf-cubs…. I think that would teach him how to handle rowdy canines…
Only if he has learned how to stop being their chew toy…
Then yeah I would agree but if he got caught off-guard while perched in a tree…then even so might have found himself in a tough spot.
If Bino brakes the watch what happens? Nothing? Does King explode making a horrible mess? Or is the watch simply unbreakable?
I bet he melts like the Wicked Witch.
Why would he smell like that? I think he would smell like orange soda, wait is this even relevant to the comic?
melts, not smells.
My bad, any thoughts on this yourself?
I have one, not water proof.
???? what? a watch you mean? if thats the case i meant what happens if Bino tries to break, or breaks, the watch.
I was talking about the witch part, because the witch in the Wizard of Oz melted when they poured water on her.
Ahhh kay i see the joke now…. i hate it when jokes have to be dissected to understand them.
I hate it when you have to dissect people so that they understand the joke, luckily this wasn’t the case. *puts scalpel down*
Get this Mad Dok Away from me, i don’t an exploding leg!!!!
I said this isn’t the case, what is this I don’t even.
Mad doks are doctors for orks in warhammer 40,000. They are utterly insane in the ways they “fix” things, often adding unnecessary “upgrades” to their patients. They cut other orks apart for the sheer heck of it. Your behavior matches a mad doks. To sum it up. You’re completely insane. Please don’t cut me apart.
(Yehoshua, May I ask where you got your avatar, if from an FA or DA account can you link me the artist?)
I don’t remember where I got it, it was a long time ago.
Reminds me of Franken Stein from the anime Soul Eater.
Besides, he’s been sitting in a tree in the rain: he smells like a wet dog.
more possibly, the watch is unbreakable. It’s King’s fate and only King decides what to do with it
BIno has minions?! I mean I knew he had Fox and Rex….but he has hired minions?!
when they’re hired, they’re either “henchmen” or “goons.” minions tend to have undying loyalty.
My point is he has underlings, this shocked me.
Fox is not a minion, as he proved being able to break a part or two of Bino, given enough motivation.
Rex is a hardcore minion…and it’s no wonder why.
I wonder how Boris & Eltstyin can call ‘boss’ such a jerk,..
Hm… The pay is good?
total awesomeness!
Poor Rex. he’s been out-minioned (but them B&E are so awesome!)
All I can say is either one of five things will happen.
A. Bino smashes the clock, and King dissipates into oblivion. (Cause isn’t that his soul or something?)
B. Same as A but instead King remains and Bino proceeds forward. (which I doubt.)
C.Sasha saves the day…
D. Joey attempts to save him again and again countless times.
E. Spot (SuperDog) saves King.
I think Joeys going to try to save him again, or Binos two new minions betray him. (lol added # 6)
F. The watch won’t break
G. The watch is a cake (lie)
H. The hammer breaks (because I DON’T WANT KING TO DIE!)
Option I? Could be that Bino smashes the watch and King turns back into Joel? which would be very awkward…
I prefer not to think of that one.
A: PLEEEEEAAAASE NO!!!
B: to anticlimactic, unlikely
C: PLEEEEEAAAASE YES!!!!
D: rick wouldn’t use that joke over and over. joey might return but if he does, it will be with help
E: unlikely, but that would be cool. Though apart from a guest comic, we never see Spot “superdog” outside Peanut’s comics or Tarot’s mental “holodeck” projection
I vote for option A1:
Bino hits the watch with the hammer, the watch survives and the hammer breaks somehow.
Or B1:
Bino destroys the watch and something really awesome happens next (Something like the time stops or something happens to King, I dunno.)
I had this odd though of that if Bino breaks the watch after wearing it, he would become Joel…
heh Now THAT would be awkward. XD
Or Bino smashes the watch and 2 things happen.
1. All the dogs tell Bino off, considering him going to far.
2. King just snaps, busts free, and continually whaling on Bino while swearing up a storm until Bino both cries and bleeds in a manner of that scene from the Christmas Story…
My opinion is that, if Bino were to hit the watch with a hammer, the hammer would smash into pieces itself or would do nothing. Or, and this is my favourite, and I think someone mentioned it above: Bino proceeds to smash “Joel’s” fate-watch, and a new one appears in its place in heaven for King.
Now that would be awesome.
Boris-Firetrucking-Yeltsin!!! I Didn’t like that guy that much, but it is still a Soviet/Russian reference.
Anyway, going back to the main subject, looks like our unexpected ‘hero’ has been erased for the day, King has been compromised and captured by Bino’s henchmen (right… Russians on the bad side, how unexpected… still, it is fun) but, by judging the Alt Text, there’s more cards coming out of Sasha’s sleev- uh, biscuits coming out of Sasha’s collar! mmmmmhhhhh… biscuits…
Soviet?
The Soviet Union started falling apart in January 1990. Yeltsin was elected chairman of Russia in May 1990, and (once the USSR was gone) elected president in July 1991! If anything, he’s the one that got the Soviets out of Russia.
Mind you, I didn’t like him much either.
Wait, wasn’t Gorbachev the first president of the Russian Federation? Oh well, still, I think Yeltsin has a little bit of Soviet Union on him.
*literally, starts investigating, again, about Russian history*
OK! After investigating about this two interesting characters, I found that Gorvachov was the last president of the USSR, which means, for that reason, that somehow I got confused between this two characters.
In short, I just got confused by their positions on the government.
I still don’t like Yeltsin.
The suspense is KILLING me!! …and killing King too apparently…
literally?
What.
What “what”?
What:
-interjection
(used in exclamatory expressions, often followed by a question): What, no salt?
That what.
It can’t be that easy to break fate. I mean the thing did fall from “outer space”.
and King survived when it landed on his head
therefore, it must not have been falling all that fast.
Maybe king’s head is JUST that hard.
As if I need further proof that I’m a geek, this comment has me considering the terminal velocity of a watch *facepalm*
Assuming that the projected area of the watch as it falls averages at around 30 square centimeters, I’d say around 33 m/s (73 miles/hour)? Of course, I’m making a lot of assumptions here (and it’s been two years since Physics 220. I’m a chemist, not a physicist!).
Ordinary physics doesn’t apply. Ever seen a spaceship reentering the atmosphere? Friction with the air engulfs it in flames. That watch would have to have been red-hot when it hit King, and yet he calmly picked it off the ground
It can also be argued that it did not in fact fall from space, per say, but through some dimensional rift; seeing the point of origin. The scene shift could then be just that, and not a travel log. In witch case the actual distance it fell could easily be measured in feet, not light years.
In a show called “Dead Like Me” (don’t watch it kids.) the main character got killed by a space toilet seat lid traveling at roughly 200 mph… but that’s just a tv show.
Poor Joey. 100 to 1 says it doesn’t break.
1 to 100 chance that it breaks and the universe promptly dies.
Are you sure? That would be impossib*CRACK*
…
…
*strange void music fills the void*
All I have to say is munchkin is awesome I love playing it and I think fox will appear next
Rebooting the universe? Other webcomics have done it, but I really hope that it doesn’t come to that
as soon as i saw the hammer i was like “oh noes!”
Wait a tick, what if Joey comes back in his catsuit with all his cat friends?
REVOLUTION!!!!
Cliffhangers………WHY!!!!!!!!
this kind of a reaction, that’s why
This i what causes me to loose sleep XD
good to know I’m not the only one
Ah! Poor Joey!
thats a poty, Joey :3
Oops, pity
Wow, Joey’s face has really changed compared from the firsts comics
Not… really… unless you mean the style, which has really changed for all the characters since the first comics.
I think he means that Joey’s face there has a real Bino level confidence that has never been seen before.
You know, I just realized, the reason why it rained was so that Joey could be thrown in the mud!
…
Why did I just realize that? o_o
Because you couldn’t've known before that Joey would appear at all!
If there was any doubt that I hated Bino before… Watch Sasha do something useful to save him!
“Bino! If you break that I’ll never talk to you again!”
“Sasha if you let me break this I’ll spend 15$ on you next year.”
Bidding War!
“Make it 30 and finally meeting my Daddy for the approval of calling the stork service to deliver our puppies then we’ll have a deal!”
Umm… definitely not what I had in mind…
Awe poor King. His plan was foiled. Oh well, Joey didn’t get his way either. I do wonder who it is that pushed(?) him.
Oh wait, nevermind it was Bino I didn’t want to get his way. I hope he doesn’t
Well…That was anticlimatic…
It’s a bit of a conflicting moment for me. It’s like Bear Nuts by Alison Acton — the characters are so cute and lovable that you can’t help but go “Aww, look at him! He’s being mean-spirited and conniving! I just want to hug him!”
Joey = http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllOfTheOtherReindeer
Why does Bino have to do this? Is it because of his collar story? Or he just wants to recognized as a leader? When will his rain of terror end!?
because he’s a total jerk and should be locked in a kennel!
Also, because he’s personally determined to make King’s life miserable.
I agree with the first!
But personally? I think its more jealousy that gets too him. Hard to say really.
Bino has decided he doesn’t like King at the point of first-mean things-first
http://www.housepetscomic.com/2009/12/18/tis-better-to-give/
http://www.housepetscomic.com/2009/12/21/your-heart-is-full-of-unwashed-socks/
Since then, he did his best to upset King
But then I was right because of the name King, Bino feels like he was the lower alpha dog. I because he wants the attention.
http://www.housepetscomic.com/2008/09/19/grape-solves-another-problem-with-violence/
It kind of proves my point.
LOL
OH… poor Joey!
And… Bino never show his neck! hehehe
Gaboris naivity rage count #2: Grrroarrr!!! D:< Dang it Bino you see what you made me do? XP Oh yeah and when did you get those henchmen Bino? XD
BTW Boris? Yeltsin? The COMMUNISTS are invading! D:
PS: Not even gonna say how I feel about poor Joey.
Is that a tail on King?
Corgi’s do have stub tails :\
I am noticing a lot of “Bino haters” around this one. But hasn’t anyone notice that King/Joel brought this part on himself? I am not defending Bino, Bino is a bully that part is true, should he be locked up? no cause that won’t cure him. All what King has done to this point cause this event to happen, I mean for god sakes he still hasn’t change his attitude toward animals other then Fox. he hiding the truth from them, and he saw the watch, he first dumped it to avoid connection. Then when he found out he needed it and Bino had it, instead of telling Fox the truth and get some help, he Instead sneaked around and tries to take it from Bino through his girlfriend. When his undermining scheme didn’t work and he got caught he now call out desperately to fix his screw up. He claims he doesn’t like getting his strings pulled but look at what he tried to do, just because he got caught doesn’t excuse the fact of what he did. At this point even if the watch is taken and given to king, there no doubt his identity will be revealed. And the moment that King/Joel blame dogs for this mistake that he cause from his sneaking around and using other dogs to get something he wanted, rather then do the right thing is when I lose all faith in King for his salvation.
1) can you blame King for NOT telling anything? I mean, not the smartest thing to do…that is, provided he’s considered sane of mind for talking about magical griffins and The Game
2) Bino is being a constant disgrace to the pet dog community. He’d need a SERIOUS lesson not only for now, but for all the times he tried to make other pets’ life miserable. So far, we liked the funny endings to his endeavours, but now he’s crossing a line
3) King threw away the watch…because he didn’t want anything to do with his old life, perhaps?
4) Give King some orange soda and he’ll try to be a LOT more amiable. So far, he’s been doing a lot of progresses, considering where he comes from…
Other than that, I *do* hope Fox concede him forgiveness, should he learn the truth
Im with you Valerio, Bino is a real bellend sometimes, he just gets in peoples faces, likes to mess their lives up and because, he seems to be lacking in most departments.
Joel had past trauma from his pets which is why he did what he did, he had no idea that his partner was going to kill Fox, and you know, I really think his new life as King means alot more to him then going back to his old life.
I agree with every point Valerio brought up… except the orange soda, i can put myself in king’s shoes, I don’t get along with alot of people and until they approach me and get to know me, I come off as a real jerk, King is alot like that too.
Sasha is such a sweet girl, comes from a rather i suppose abusive alcoholic home, and King could really take care of her since they already have a history together.
(I SMELL A ROMANCE.COMING ON)
Also, Im diggin the new mindless moggies that bino has added to his collection. I’m glad Rex isnt here, i think even he has sense enough to see this as cruel
You mean mindless doggies? Moggies are cats.
I don’t blame King for not saying anything cause he human after all and truth is hidden when one doesn’t want to face the consequences. In King case, being alone and put into jail. I am sure Joel is accustomed to his new life but he always seem to be fearful of the truth. Even worse he knows of the game, he know the rules (somewhat) and instead of playing the game.. he avoid it like the plague. thinking it just going to go away on it own. So when the game catches up to him (cause he a part of it now), he act angry like the world is against him. No I blame him, as much improvement he made as King, he still show distrust. The only thing that could save him was Sasha, but even then King is as much to blame as the griffin that force him into this life.
Dude, he’s only human.
He is, just like the rest of us, and you know the cool part about being human? we get choices, we can choose to tell the truth or not, we can chose to be a friend or use a person for our own personal gain. we can choose play a game or do nothing at all. We can choose to hate or to forgive. King/Joel had choices, he had opportunities, he just made the wrong ones and he got where he is now. And now if Bino goes through with his actions, King may choose to hate again, thus losing what little hope he had in this world of Babylon.
same reason why no able person has come to his aid yet. (Poor Joey, he need to get some karate lessons or something). Cause the people that do know can’t really do anything to help him, and those that can help him don’t know cause he afraid that he will lose his second chance. I honestly hope the watch doesn’t get broken, but if it does then Joel will be broken, and it going to take a lot (even a miracle) to pull him out.
You make it sound so black and white, and given what King would have to “come out” about, it’s not even all that gray.
yea.. it does seem that way.. but he kinda push it to that scenario, having little options, going with the quickest route to goal without raising any red flags. there weren’t many gray situations for King, and the ones he did get weren’t appealing to him ( other then avoiding the game). I have to say though for his situation I feel bad for him not many humans can tough it out like he did after being turn into a dog, and learning about multi-universes and heaven, and celestial beings. He react like anyone would hell I would do the same myself. But I still stick with that in the end it the choices we make that determine our fate. I think the moment King realize that the game will be begin for him and breaking the watch won’t break him and the real fun can begin.
Bino is simply being a jerk. he doesn’t really care about the watch and would rather destroy it than let King have it. From the start, Bino hasn’t even given King a chance and has been unconditionally against him.
King indeed has been deceptive. But then again, we didn’t see much of what transpired between King and Sasha so we don’t know how manipulative he is being. Also, do you blame him for keeping his past life a secret? Anyone who believed him would basically shun him and everyone who didn’t would just think he’s crazy.
The thing that sets King and Bino apart in my opinion is that King at least is trying to be a better person. Events (namely Bino) don’t seem to be helping that, however.
*applauds* completely agree, Sir!
On the forums, I made a post regarding whether it would be interesting to view the situation from Bino’s perspective:
“Shorty’s trying to take my place. He’s stealing my friends away from me. So what if he found this watch first? He didn’t want it last night. Why does he want it now? Because I have it. He’ll do whatever it takes to get it from me. He even tricked Sasha into helping him. I’ll smash the watch, then I won’t have to be on guard all the time.”
Remember, the watch has no value to Bino; it’s just a thing he found in the trash. He used it to make a few puns and probably would have eventually disposed of it himself if King hadn’t come along and demanded it from him. He’s insecure and paranoid. King’s taking Bino’s best friend and girlfriend from him. King ignored the ‘warning’ Bino gave at the Christmas party. He won’t submit to Bino’s dominant personality and that’s a threat.
Honestly, I can’t put myself into that perspective. Perhaps I’ve never been “top dog”.
that may be. I can see that from Bino’s point of view but that doesn’t mean I have to like how he handles the situation
It’s part of dramatic irony, we as the audience know much more about the situation than Bino does, but still. Bino’s motives are flawed, he just wants to remain “top dog”. He overreacts to anything that he sees as threatening his standing.
I still empathize more with King rather than Bino, though.
People can react strongly when they’re afraid of losing their standing, whether with another person or an organization. *shrugs*
Also, King could come out of this with a renewed hatred for animals in general, just like that christmas…
So, did anyone else hear dramatic music start playing in their head when they read this?
DUN DUN DUUNNNN!!!!!!!! XD
http://www.dramabutton.com/
(Paying it forward)
I LOVE IT!!! XDDD
Woa, didn’t expect that many people to know who Boris Yeltsin is %)
Btw, that person doesn’t have anything to do with Soviets, he was first president of Russia Federation after it ended being USSR.
wait isn’t Fido there wont he stop it just saying he dose not seem like the type to let this happen
looks like neither him nor Fox are at the club, or this madness wouldn’t have started…soo, it’s Sasha’s time again?
Yeah, Sasha seems the kind of girl who would fight giant alien killer crabs from space under the right conditions…
Maybe he left after Bino “brag-teling them where he’ll be…” I would
I wonder what type of canine Boris & Yeltsin are. They look really cool.
Also, Bino’s a jerk.
Also, Yeltsin’s (?) scar = homage to Wolf’s Rain?
Russian ones?
In Soviet Russia, you are canine…
That doesn’t make any sense.
Has anyone considered that Rick might just be teasing us with this alt text?
Do you mean Sasha is NOT coming, or that probably is now that Rick said it?
Yes, yes, anyone HAS! There’s quite a few comments to that effect.
Bino had goons…. and he foresaw something and properly planned it out?
They were at the house already, before Bino knew Joel!King was going to make a play for the watch.
Something tells me the watch is going to end up being indestructable.
Possible surprise twist:
Bino breaks King’s fate and… King turns into Joel. Joel end up in jail. Bino ends up in traction.
But wait! It’s not King’s fate, it’s Joel’s!
Bino breaks Joel’s fate and… nothing happens. Cut to a new pedestal appearing in the celestial city, with King’s name on it.
But that’s WAY too boring, besides, why would pete want the orb if it wouldn’t effect King?
Pete’s not as smart as he thinks he is.
And what are the implications of King getting his own fate? For one, that would imply he can’t be turned back into Joel again.
But it’s also NOT implied, nothing is implied, Only that if something happens to it. IT IS BAD!
I wish I saw your comment before I posted mine above. D:
Oh, well.
I really hope he doesn’t smash it D: I like King! He’s way better as a pet :3
Don’t we all know it?
One has to wonder the cosmic horror that would occur if the watch were to be smashed. What would become of King? Or better yet, is it able to be destroyed at all? Or would it ascend its physical form upon destruction, and return to the ethereal sphere of light it started as? Would its destruction unhinge the fabric of reality itself?
How did I manage to make so many questions out of Bino being a jerk with a hammer?
I would suppose (since that watch is his fate) that he would be hurt and/or be badly injured with every hit from the hammer. But then again, when pete was trying to steal his fate, it fell out of his hands and it hit the ground below (who knows how many stories it fell) and it was still in one piece. So i’d have to assume that the watch is in-fact indestructable. But in the case of it NOT being indestructable, i would assume the worst for King/Joel if it were to break.
Well, on the subject of it falling when Pete tried to steal it, who’s to say that his fate can’t become destructible when entering a realm of reality?
a certain dog needs to be kicked out in the rain
Silly Bino! Doesn’t he know that fate is indestructible?
Bino’s Owner: “Bino, why is the hammer broken up?”
I think Bino just out jerk Pete. Even though Pete turned Joel into a dog for his own benefits, Joel’s life as King did teach him a few things, Bino is doing this just to for a shallow victory to make himself feel big for, like, the rest of the day….
totally agree!
I think everyone is going to chew him out for this. Sasha, Fox, FIdo, maybe even Rex…
Especially when you consider that 2 new characters from Russia (apparently) have been introduced as his goons in a over-top display of bullyism.
Bino! Quick! Smash your own hand and somehow cause King to freed so he can take the watch and run with those stubby Corgi legs! =P
I love how everyone arbitrarily treats the watch as a matter of life and death even though King is the only one who is aware or affected by of the gravity of the situation
Me grammar today bad is
I agree completely.
Henchmen appear from nowhere at all.
Now *I* wanna be a bad guy!
i wanna be a completely neutral factor with overwhelming odds in my favor
People seem to have forgotten that Bino is a co-founder of the Good Ol’ Dogs Club.
and that implies being obeyed for being a total jerk?
No, it explains where dogs loyal to Bino come from. : )
Loyalty is pretty much the most important thing to dogs, isn’t it?
just like how cats are cunning and curious =)
While that is true, what were his motivations for co-founding it? Just because someone starts a good and just group, it does not mean they did it for good and/or noble reasons.
This was intended as an answer to the question of where dogs loyal to Bino came from, not the founding of said institution. : )
Y’know King, you’d probably have been able to reach the watch better if you’d used your other arm.
Option G:
He panics and spills his guts about really being Joel and how the watch is really his soul.
50 percent chance Bino smashes it out of rage instead of spite.
Boris Yeltsin…
ssssooooo whut will happen if the watch is broken?
It’s a secret to everybody.
Except for Rick of course
Unless Rick has multiple personalities and the one that crafted this arc is secretive, of course.
Not that I’m implying anything along those lines.
uh oh! Bino is going to get it – I dun think Fido will be happy with him mistreating their
younger brother
Also Bino has his a new low (or it high) in jerk-itude !!
- Fennec
Next… Joey’s D&D friends show up and throw tennis balls at Bino while yelling “Magic Missile!”
Maybe a Showdown between Joey and Bino using Ancient dog laws for a contest of brick throwing?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gwTN7zU2O0
Congratulations, crowd and Rick. This madness has drawn a level 37 lurker from his lair.
But first, I have to say this: this is an amazing comic, Rick, and you should feel amazing. This is one of a select few webcomics I follow seriously out of dozens that I have looked at.
Now, on to the debate!
I’m taking Bino’s side on this. Yes, he is a jerk. However, Bino doesn’t know even half of the story. All Bino can see is “King wants the watch I found. He tricked my girlfriend into betraying my trust in order to get it. It probably would be best to just get rid of the problem now.”
Also, I can’t see the alt text (dang iPod…) so I can only use my wits to guess what’s next. But, I find it quite interesting how no one remembers that King has two certain “gifted” friends, at least one of which can become a giant green dragon…
D: Poor Joey!
Is anyone else weirded out by Sash’s comment? “Oh Biney, your neck is so…much like a pencil” Doesn’t that sound like if King didn’t jump in, she was going to snap his neck like a pencil? o.o;
I think your going to see a Deathbed Confession. King is going to close his eyes and thinking he is dead going to yell out that he is Joel and is he so sorry and beg for Fox to forgive him. He will open his eyes and Fox will be holding back Bino and everyone will have a shocked look on their face.
Failing that Bino smashes the Watch and King is ok… and the great Kitsune comes into his dream and tells him his like as Joel is now dead, and he is now just King and can never go back to being Human ever. We will see a new Orb in heaven with King’s name on it…
Thats just my silly theories.
I like the first theory better actually, but then again, something interesting could come out of the second one too.
Oops! This was supposed to be a reply to “Hyper (fo)X” up there :p
Watch Maxwell waltz in and steal it just to annoy Bino for unrelated reasons.
My Prediction:
A hammer having no effect. He looks confused and smashes harder. He eventually either injured himself or ends up giving one final tink, getting zapped by divine lightning in the process
I predict that on the first hit, the hammer will bounce back and hit him in the head, leaving him in the hospital again.
why is dere an “i” in yank in da 1st panel o.o?
2nd panel… mai bad *facepaw*
Why is there an “i” in my? :p
because that’s how ai talk…. actually the forums kinda killed my way of talking >.>
XP
Rule 4: Do not point out when people talk funny
T-T
Awsome name drop on the munchkin btw i love that game who knew dogs loved it to
Man Bino had become flnderdized from jerk to straight out asshole =/
And King finds himself in a very similar position to the one Pete was in when we last saw him
Ok now, Joey did NOT deserve that.
Bino is such a horrible brother.
What are these “perpetual games of tag” Bino’s referring to?
I think it might be referring to “keep away”
Well, at least he’s staying in character. I can understand his character, so while he’s not my favourite character, I don’t hate Bino.
King, I seriously feel for you, though. You are my favourite character, I believe.
Also, which one is Boris, and which one is Yeltsin? I’m interested.
Ohhh Joey. How I love your entrances… <3
Must…resist…urge…to…theorize! GRAGH! So many ways this could go T_T
Wow, what an unexpected turn of events. I wasn’t expecting Joey at all, but it made me laugh so hard.
Epic fail.
Why do Boris and Yeltsin speak with a stereotypical Italian mafia accent? Or is that just in my mind?
i thought it was russin cuz of thier names