Defenestrating Comics

Of course, I only am able to jab at Scott McCloud as much as I do because his stuff is 99% awesome.


Discussion (155) ¬

  1. Majin-Wolf

    He sad!! :(

  2. IceKitsune

    Yes! Infinite Canvas! ok I’ve really have nothing else to say

    • Argent Stonecutter

      Yes! Infinite canvas!

      Infinite canvas… is… infinite! Not very canvassy, unless you have an old-style anti-glare screen made of nylon mesh. I miss that stuff, really, in a kind of “yes I know it sucked” sort of way.

      • Frank

        Well, that’s easy to solve! Buy an infocus projector, and project it onto… uh… a screen door?

        • Argent Stonecutter

          Screen doors don’t suck. They blow. And go “slam slam slam” in the middle of the night, until you get out of bed and latch them shut. Which sucks.

          Wait… what?

    • Spirit Studios 2010

      well… infinite canvas IS better than Infinite Campus….

      it’s a new stupid program that my school system replaced Edline with last year… screwed everything up with the way teachers grade.

  3. Zander

    MaKing use of the ” infinate canvas” I see.

  4. Kalvin

    D: I hate to say it now but I don’t get this arc. There may be some joke I’m missing but I just don’t find it funny. I like the tinfoil pyramid graph hat, but other than that it just hasn’t made sense to me.

    • IceKitsune

      That is because you have most likely (like most people around here) never read any of Scott McCloud’s books you really have to have read them to get this. I mean I’ve only had them storytimed on 4chan so some of this arc still goes over my head.

      • rWolf1991

        I understand most of it and i only read a small excerpt of it in school

  5. MelSkunk

    I don’t know what’s funnier, the ‘Dat Azz’ face or sad Prof. Spot

  6. Dissension

    For given values of “99%” and “awesome,” admittedly. = P

  7. Dissension

    Also, why are we throwing comics out the window!?

    • Argent Stonecutter

      Because if you love something you must set it freeeeeeeeee…

      • Inu225

        lol
        You just made my day.

      • Naylorfan90

        *eeps as a mountain-load of comics fall from the sky onto him*

  8. Inu225

    Infinite Canvas…
    You mean like this?
    http://www.explosm.net/comics/2030/

    XP

    • Argent Stonecutter

      Awesome!

    • FuRrY321

      Works best if you can scroll sideways with your scroll wheel.

      Bless you modern mice!
      Curse you $20 notebook mouse and keyboard! (Hey, I -had- to put it out there!)

      • Frank

        So that means my avatar should get a LED light to be blessed?

        • Rambuctorium

          That would be awsome, I must say.
          He would have a little bulb in his hand and a confused expression on his face. =P

        • Argent Stonecutter

          Or a lightsaber.

          • FuRrY321

            Only if it’s green or blue.
            Or purple. :D
            No red. :evil:

          • Argent Stonecutter

            Why not red?

          • FuRrY321

            “Beware the Dark Side.”

          • Argent Stonecutter

            Yeh yeh, I know, there’s a dark side, and a shiny side. Well, lightsabers are ALL shiny!

  9. Arbajor

    Well that’s different…

  10. Typhon

    At least you don’t have a scroll bar *looks at post 11

  11. Roflmaster

    Ergh. I light of my nonunderstanding of the last three comics, I vote for more Peanut n’ Grape interactive hijinks.

    • Argent Stonecutter

      King x Anyone!

      • kingisawsome

        i agree

      • FuRrY321

        Wait, that means you’re leaving it open for another King one-off with any random character!

        Nooze! King Arc I say, King Arc!!!

        • Argent Stonecutter

          Point. We wouldn’t want to waste a strip on King + Steward.

          King + Ferrets, though, would be made of win. And corgi facepaws.

  12. Roflmaster

    *in

    • Frank

      You want to shrink Peanut and have Grape eat him? Or was that “in” supposed to go somewhere else?

      • Roflmaster

        Well, that’d be interesting either way, but I meant to correct where I typed “I light” to “in light”.

        Seriously though, that’d be an epic arc:
        JOIN US NEXT TIME AS PEANUT EXPLORES GRAPE’S DIGESTIVE TRACT!! WE’RE PUSHING THE PG RATING IN UR MINDZ!!

  13. root

    Spot mccloud doesn’t even care about print because the syndicates are dinosaurs and digital distribution is democratizing delivery!!!

  14. Pokeblue

    Poor Spot.

  15. Weebz

    Oh, the goodness of explosion hath returned…

  16. ReCreate

    Nothing in the computer world is unlimited. Nothing. Meaning, the canvas is limited to a few trillion+ pixels in width and height approximately. (assuming you utilize all the storage mediums in the planet)

    :P

    Is it just me, or does this arc suck?

    haha jk XD though, i do find this arc particularly boring -_- i never really liked spot(superdog) comics *rolls eyes*

    • ReCreate

      and i had just realized that it was 12:50 XD i was like OH CRAP NEW COMIC 50 MINUTES AGO @_@ XD i can’t believe i forgot.

    • Your Obedient Serpent

      IT’S

      JUST

      YOU

      • Lax

        Nope, it’s not him. He’s correct on that assumption

    • Inu225

      So… you don’t find him “Awesome”?
      http://www.housepetscomic.com/2010/03/26/exceeding-expectations/

      Ok. *Walks away* XD

      • Argent Stonecutter

        The trick to exceeding expectations is controlling expectations.

        Like Wally in Dilbert.

        Oh god, if Peanut ever discovers Dilbert.

        • Frank

          Spot! The dog faster than a speeding bullet! Capable of leaping 100-story buildings in a single bound! And capable of making his tie always point to the heavens!

    • Lax

      It does suck, you’re Spot on :D

      • Shinmera

        opinions, opinions. Those comics are real fun for those who know the books.

    • Shinmera

      nothing ever is unlimited. not just in the computer world, silly.

      • Frank

        Oh really? What’s the limit of ∞ then? If nothing is unlimited, then everything has to have a limit!

        • Shinmera

          ∞ is not a number. ∞ isn’t anything.

    • Argent Stonecutter

      Not true, I just found a program that gives you an infinite canvas. It’s all vectors!

      http://www.atebits.com/scribbles/

      PS: ∞ is only א₀

      • Shinmera

        Still true since the data has to be stored somewhere and when that storage runs out, there won’t be any place to store more drawing data. Thus still finite.

        • Argent Stonecutter

          It’s vectors. Any coordinate is just a number.

          • Shinmera

            I know. But still, every storage of a number still takes place. And that space is limited.

          • Argent Stonecutter

            So you can only have a finite number of objects on it.

            For all practical purposes it’s unlimited.

          • Frank

            I think Shinmera’s point is that if the coordinate is a number, there’s a “biggest number” (or at least, the biggest one that can be stored) Once you put a point there, you can’t put anything farther away, so it’s not truly infinite. I have to agree, though, that it’s infinite “for all practical purposes”

          • shinmera

            pretty much every vector program can be “infinite” with it’s canvas… for practical purposes :P

  17. Your Obedient Serpent

    That biting-the-lower-lip-in-squee-cool expression in Panel 5 has left me giggling helplessly. Again.

    The whole strip did, really, but that one face … .

  18. Argent Stonecutter

    Infinite canvas is infinite because HTML5 will let you re-use the canvas as it scrolls so you never ever ever get to the end of it!

    What will Spot do when Peanut discovers HTML?

    Will it be scarier than what Scott McCloud does when he discovers active content?

    • kingisawsome

      you do know Rick could possibly be reading this right now and you could be giving him ideas

      • Argent Stonecutter

        I don’t think Rick’s enough of a geek to do an HTML5 one-off just for yucks.

        Scott McCloud, now…

        • Shinmera

          …or me…
          *evil laugh*
          I really need to study HTML5 now. :B

    • Frank

      Either we’ll get an animated Spot (superdog) strip, or where Peanut says “see the first story in this arc”, it’ll be clickable! (And it will probably lead to a page saying “but I forgot which one it was”)

  19. Argent Stonecutter

    Oh yes, the ever-receding micropayment future.

    Except it’s here.

    Just publish your comic inside Second Life. You might make a profit of ten or even twenty dollars a year! That doesn’t sound much, but that’s THOUSANDS of Linden Dollars!

  20. Turnsky

    I have mixed opinions about Infinite Canvas, of course Scott (or Spot in this case) is talking from a pure creative standpoint when it comes to infinite canvas, the idea of it is valid, however..

    If you throw Practicality and Functionality at infinite canvas, it falls apart.

    Of course when you throw people at it, it practically disintegrates. The Canvas may well be potentially infinite, but the attention span of most people, are not. ;)

    • Argent Stonecutter

      If you throw people at just about anything, it falls apart, or they fall apart, and you end up in a made-for-cable police procedural or courtroom drama. Unless you’re Hugh Laurie, and can extract wacky hospital hijinks from interns in embarrassing ways EVERY episode of House!

      • Frank

        Generally, if you throw peope at anything you end up with several disgruntled police officers and several medics working after hours.

        • Argent Stonecutter

          What if they’re in American football armor^H^H^H^H^Huniforms?

          • Frank

            Armor is heavy. The extra mass increases momentum, so the force of impact is greater, meaning property damages will occur. You still get disgrunteld police officers.

            what’s ^H? “hut, hut, hut?”

          • Argent Stonecutter

            Backspace.

          • Argent Stonecutter

            BTW: don’t forget to allow for the reduction in total kinetic energy due to the lower launch velocity with the increased mass.

    • Inu225

      …… : 1
      I’m… I’m sorry can you repeat that?
      I lack the “attention span”. XD

  21. ctcmjh

    At first I didn’t really like the Peanut’s comic arcs, but I have to admit that they’re growing on me :)

  22. Gaboris

    NOW ya see what what ya have done ferret? (Arent the ferret, just to make it clear.) Ya influenced The Author!!! … or this is just a huge coincidence, but since there are no such things it’s all yer fault!!!
    BTW cool strip, this is the end to the arc right?
    Two things still bother me.
    a)Why is Spot sad at the end, cuz it’s over or cuz he can’t anthologize (still not sure what that means XP)?
    b)Kay now seriously… What the heck is an infinite canvas (besides strips with empty panelplaces and such)?

    • Frank

      a) An anthology is a print collection of stories. If you can’t anthologize your comics, you can’t put your arcs in print. This is a bit of a problem if you want to sell your comics by a method other than micropayments. So basically, no anthologizing, no selling your collections. Hence, sad face.

      b) infinite canvas is the concept that since the size of a stored image is basically infinite, while on a paper it’s whatever the paper size was, you can create some really huge images, and let the user scroll through them. Take, for example, panel 6 here:
      http://www.scottmccloud.com/1-webcomics/zot/zot-03/zot-03.html
      It’s probably some 5 pages when printed, but because it’s on computer, you can just scroll through them (or rather, he forces you to scroll through them).

      • Gaboris

        a) A-HA! Got it, so he’s greedy and wants more money. Right? X3

        b) So that’s how it is, cool… not always useful, but yeah it’s a cool feature. :3

        Thx Frank. :)

      • Wingedwolfgirl

        At Frank,
        Thank you, I googled anthology and wasn’t finding anything of sense.
        Ur description has made it clear naow. :3

    • Argent Stonecutter

      If you didn’t think Rick was going to do an Infinite Canvas strip some rtime in this arc, from the moment you saw the first frame on Monday, you haven’t read NEARLY enough Scott McCloud!

      Actually, I haven’t read enough, I forgot about the micropayments.

      • Wingedwolfgirl

        naow I has 2 find “Making comics” and read it!

      • gaboris

        Yeah ya may be right ferret, but there are two things to be told:
        a) I had no idea what an infinite canvas was. XD
        b) I had no idea who or what Scott McCloud was. X3
        Go and read, I don’ think I’ll find his book in a hungarian bookshop. XP

  23. HonorèDerazey

    Hey um, what happened to that comment I posted? Did I do something wrong?

    • Frank

      It probably just has to be moderated. Please wait between 5 minutes and 36 hours.

    • Buckdida

      Hmm, nope. Don’t see anything on my end. Try reposting it.

    • HonorèDerazey

      Hmm, maybe it’s just a glitch. My brother uses WordPress on his site and he has something like that happen time to time.

  24. kingisawsome

    i dont know why its just when rick draws like that it unnerves me

    • FuRrY321

      Good artist gone bad? XD

    • Kamron

      It bothers me because it’s still better than I can draw.

  25. SamBlob

    Why are these tagged “Spot (superdog)” when Spot claims to be Professor Spot in this arc?

    • Argent Stonecutter

      Professor Spot (superdog)?

      • Elwood Blutarsky

        Professor Spot is his secret identity, in Peanut’s universe “Spot” is a very common name for dogs and no one bats an eyelid on the fact they have the same name.

        Oh and nice Doctor Strangelove reference in panel 1.

  26. Dr. Prower

    INFINITE CANVAS!

  27. Eric

    I think I literally laughed out loud at every single panel, but especially at the bit lip in panel five. Hilarious!

    • Argent Stonecutter

      I’m surprised nobody’s made that their avatar yet.

      • FuRrY321

        I think the small avatars just wouldn’t do the lip-biting justice.

  28. Salenstormwing

    Infinite Canvas? Okay, as someone who reads far too many webcomics, I’ll be the first to admit that Infinite Canvas is something that bothers the dook out of me. Yes, Webcomics allow you to do things normal comics can’t, but unless it has a purpose, it’s grating and annoying and can easily be as distracting as photoshop lense flares.

    Sorry, it’s just a pet peeve of mine. I read one too many ‘artsy’ webcomics at one point in my life as a webcomic reviewer that used infinite canvas, and I might have gone a little crazy.

    • Frank

      Blame Bill Waterson

      I’m also surprized Argent hasn’t replied to this with “dook, dook, dook”s and “HBRLR”s

      • Argent Stonecutter

        Just because I agree with another ferret doesn’t mean I’m going to go all dook dook dook with him, and … ooh, shiny… dook dook… dookdookdook…

        • Salenstormwing

          Shiny? Where? Oh… but yeah, glad to see someone else agrees with me on the whole Unlimited Canvas deal. Stupid dooking artsy format.

      • Argent Stonecutter

        Plus I didn’t see his message until now. ^^

  29. Profesor Rod

    oh god youre horrible… D|

  30. A Cheetah

    rick, just a reminder, the second you start over-monetizing comics like spot describes here, that is when everyone stops caring :)

  31. RockstarRaccoon

    Haw…

  32. Silv

    omg I never expected to see strips making fun of Scott McCloud. Hilarious!

  33. Krystal

    Time to go back to the normal comics yet?

    • FuRrY321

      I dunno, but I like your avvie! ^^

      …even if I DID only play Star Fox Adventures for a few days…. ^^;;

      Anyways, I think so, since Rick (the kind soul that he is) provided us with these (filler?) comics while he was taking a vacation. He said it would only be a week, so I’m assuming on Monday we’re back to “regular programming”.
      And no, I don’t mean that kind of programming. :P

      At least, I hope not.

      • Score

        in ax,dx
        mov ecx,eax
        in ax,dx

        A programmer haiku I wrote not so long ago.

        • FuRrY321

          Sorry, I’m only familiar with Python and similar languages :D

        • Argent Stonecutter

          Here’s a programmer haiku that implements an indirect threaded interpreter inner loop:

          mov (i)+,w
          mov (w)+,-(sp)
          rts pc

          • kingisawsome

            i don’t uderstand what does that meen

  34. Zoe

    I looked at this yesterday and thought the explosion was the last panel and didn’t bother to scroll down. I was all oh.. Okay?, today I looked again and it was fantastic. Lol! :B It was like finding candy in your couch cushions.

  35. ilikepie

    Maybe it’s because I haven’t read anything from this Scott McCloud person, but I really didn’t enjoy the last 3 comics.

    For non-story-based references to geeky and/or literary works and/or topics I go to XKCD or Dinosaur Comics.

    For character development, story arcs, and the hilarious hijinks of lovable furry characters I come here.

    • Kamron

      Neither have I, but I still thought these strips were funny. I just took out Spot and stuck in every pretentious artist ever.

  36. Kamron

    Speaking of difficult-to-anthologize… I pity Andrew Hussie if he ever decides to pull his current stuff into a book.

    • Shinmera

      PS is already in book form… well.. the first part of it.

      • Kamron

        CURRENT stuff. Homestuck. :3

        I keep thinking about what a nightmare of an edit job that’ll be.

        • Shinmera

          Yeah. Especially since there are way more animations than there are in PS…
          But, thinking that Andrew is 99% awesome, I’m sure he’ll figure something out :P

          • Kamron

            Don’t forget those playable updates!

  37. Sansash

    Now you’re just throwing comics out the window.
    (I just had to say it myself, so sue me.)
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defenestration

    • Kamron

      Nonsense! They’re EVOLVING.

      Press B!

      • Lupin the Vapour

        JOIN THE B BUTTON LEAGUE!!!

    • FuRrY321

      LOL, and here I thought it was a mixture of “demonstrating” and “defending”! :D

  38. QuetzaDrake

    Hey, I can anthologize my comics!

    They’ll just have to be really… tall… books. <:x

    • FuRrY321

      Print ‘em on art pad paper!
      With dimensions like 22″ x 30″ you can’t go wrong! :)

    • Lupus

      QUETZADRAKE! -glomps- *whispers* thank you for furthia high :3

  39. Misharu

    Fiddlesticks! He did not even mention the influence of manga on today’s comics!

  40. messman

    Yep: it is 99% but he took to some ridiculous speculation.

    I still say people will never want to pay for content, so advertiser driven is the only way to go.

  41. CalaverX11

    It’s the return of the EXPLOSION! panel.

  42. e

    INFINITEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE huh huh huh

  43. Bee

    Does “if you ever get around to anthologizing your comic” mean Rick hasn’t gotten around to it yet, but he plans to? I would love to buy a House Pets book! :)

  44. Lothar Hex

    You know Penny Arcade beat you to this joke by about nine years of course.

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/6/22/

    • Rick Griffin

      Yes but that’s a different joke . . . so um . . .

      • Lothar Hex

        No really no.