Oversimplifying Comics

Scott McCloud is a very smart man when he’s not trying to simplify things.


Discussion (109) ¬

  1. Majin-Wolf

    He mad!! ^^

  2. IceKitsune

    Funny again Rick even if I’ve never read the book

    • rWolf1991

      Hey I like things that are story driven!! That’s what makes them fun like Housepets!, Halo, Gears, SC…
      Srry I’m a gamer

      but I love this comic!!

      • rWolf1991

        Srry IceKitsume I didn’t mean to reply. :P

        • IceKitsune

          its ok

      • Frank

        Housepets! isn’t story-driven. If it were, we wouldn’t have all those wonderful one-offs!

        • Argent Stonecutter

          So it’s one-off driven?

        • Argent Stonecutter

          Besides, this is a three-off, or maybe a four-off, depending on when Rick gets back.

        • AflacMan13

          That sounds dirty. By the way.
          Made of win this is.

        • rWolf1991

          i consider it to be story driven because it all follows the same story. the one-offs are like Fillers in animes!

      • psychoJoker36

        Wait wait wait… You think HALO is story driven? I understand Gears, and what I am to assume SoulCalibur, but HALO!?

        • seara117

          Halo has a story.

          • seara117

            Haven’t you ever read the books?!?!? It shows the entire storyline leading up to the games and the games follow the same storyline!!

        • FuRrY321

          HALO is story-driven. Hello, look at all those beautiful cutscenes!
          And if you didn’t think it was story-driven before, wait until Halo Reach.

          Now, Call of Duty on the other hand… ;)

          • seara117

            Thank you. :)

          • rWolf1991

            Exactly, well except for MW. Not really the best story line but it kept me entertained!

          • werekitty13

            Lots of people don’t bother to watch the cutscenes in games. Pity, really- they often have better graphics.

          • Manic

            I remember Halo as fun, though I’m not into shooting games much anymore.
            I remember MW2 as…
            Well, you don’t want to know.
            Let’s just say profane language doesn’t quite express my hatred for that luck driven, mechanically broken pile of hype designed for low intelligence, no-self-esteem trailer dwelling military wannabes.

            C’mon mods, you know it’s true. Besides, I didn’t curse.

          • FuRrY321

            While I enjoy short gaming sessions with my friends, MW2 just doesn’t cut it for me. Mainly because of the nuke. What a way to kill a game, when a camper sets off a nuke.
            LAAAAAME.

      • Rambuctorium

        Ima gamer too =D
        But if you’re lookin’ for games without stories, try Team Fortress 2.
        TF2 doesn’t even HAVE a campaign! (But that doesn’t mean it isn’t fun=P)

        • Rambuctorium

          OH NO NO MOAR FACES (Sad Face)

        • lostintheweb

          TF2 in my webcomic? It’s more likely than you think!
          oh. sorry, took a wrong turn at halolz.

  3. Roflmaster

    Ah, I love the last and second2last panels. They fill me with an ironic joy.

  4. Challenger01

    Why not the third category? That is actually REALLY fun….

    • HonorèDerazey

      It isn’t very fun when you drop a pound of Franclum into a tub of water.

      • Challenger01

        But in a comic, you can make it fun, that’s why comics are AWESOME!!

      • Argent Stonecutter

        Depends on who’s in the tub.

        • FuRrY321

          Fester from Addams Family Values?

          • Argent Stonecutter

            I refutet the existence of any Addams Family productions that do not feature John Astin as Gomez.

  5. HonorèDerazey

    I honestly can’t think of anything to reply to this, did you make this comic just to restrict the myriad number of comments pouring into here? Because 16min after putting up this comic, we’ve only got 5 comments when there are usually 20 by then.

    • IceKitsune

      He is on Vacation these are just a retelling of Scott McCloud’s book that is it. He’s doing this so he can take a break.

      • IceKitsune

        Ok after thinking about it I think retelling is the wrong word its more like a parody of his works

  6. Your Obedient Serpent

    I missed Monday’s strip, so this caught me wholly unawares tonight. I almost fell over laughing.

    Unlike a lot of the mean-spirited parodies I’ve seen of McCloud’s work, this one is … Spot-On.

  7. falcon01

    lol!

  8. Shinmera

    Aren’t you going a bit hard on Scott there?
    I mean, he really does go a bit too much as “comics are art”.
    But yeah… still doesn’t feel quite right to me :P

    • Gaboris

      Well who knows, right? Maybe he deservs it, but we shouldn’ care since for us it’s an awesome and funny strip and for Mr McCloud it’s a huge commercial or what. XD

      • Shinmera

        What do you mean by “maybe he deserves it”?
        I read his books!
        Yeah it’s a commercial for him but not in a positive way!

  9. Mr.Zero

    (Just finished reading the comic and scratches head, nervously, and coughs awkwardly) Hey, I can’t be anything else but me, right?

  10. Lax

    Are you finally done with Peanut’s poorly drawn comics? Cuz this is getting annoying with all the bad art and text, ya know…

    • Shinmera

      http://www.mspaintadventures.com/sweetbroandhellajeff/?cid=009.jpg
      It’s still comedy. Even if it’s poorly drawn. Geez. Even comics with bad art can have a good joke to them. f.e: xkcd .

    • Dissension

      This is an arc; there is at least one more.

    • Chip Uni

      This week is ’shaky-hands week’ because Rick is on vacation. On Monday, he’ll be back.

      (Also remember: You’re not paying for this web comic; Rick does this out of the goodness of his heart.)

    • HonorèDerazey

      The reason Rick is making this ‘badly drawn’ comic is because it leaves him more room to enjoy himself. Rick could’ve put up a notice saying he won’t draw comics because he’s on vacation at the moment yet he’s still making us comics. When he was moving he still made comics for us, when he was sick he still made comics for us, he takes time out of his only life, 3 times a week, to make comics for US; is that not enough?

  11. Gaboris

    Ummmm… I thought the second thing was tha romance category and that it was a joke towards us cuz of all the lovers shipping and such… XP
    But now I don’ get what Indiana Jones shoud mean besides being a joke…
    But yeah it’s a real funny strip again so just keep up the good work. X3

    • Shinmera

      That’s not “romance” category. :P You really need to read the book to get what those symbols represent.
      But since you can’t lemme tell ya:
      The bust represents the “classicists”,
      The hand/heart represents the “animists”,
      The bottle represents the “formalists”,
      The crown/arrow represents the “iconoclasts”
      Classicists and animists are “tradition” whereas formalists and iconoclasts are revolution. Classicists and formalists are “art” whereas animists and iconoclasts are “life”.
      Simplified: animists concentrate on content, formalists concentrate on form, the classicists on beauty and the iconoclasts on truce.

      • Frank

        Oooooh. I really need to read that book then! I thought it was:
        The venus = people who draw things just because they’re pretty
        The heart = people who draw things just because they’re emotional
        The potion = people who draw things just because they’re funny
        The arrow = people who draw things just because they’re gory

        • Argent Stonecutter

          What if it’s a robot hand holding the heart, and the statue is a zombie, and the bottle contains the potion from “The Court Jester”, and the arrow is really a starship going through a warpgate on the shoals of Orion? I’ve seen things you people can’t possibly imagine. Monkeys! Vampire pirate Lincoln!

          • Gaboris

            XD
            @Frank: Good thinkin there, had somethin similar in mind myself. :)

            @Argent: … Wow, ya ever talked aboot that to a person in a white coat, while ya were lying on a leather couch? Sorry mean joke. X3

            @Shinmera: Ya see bro Frank said it too, this is a full blown commercial for McCloud. X3
            BTW now I got it right, thx for the expainin, sounds interesting and now I get the joke why an art maniac would get sick of our type. XD

          • Argent Stonecutter

            Gabby: I told yaz, Ferrets make their own categories!

          • Frank

            “I’ve seen things you only see in your night mares. Things you can’t even see. And some things creep. There are things that haunt you in the night. Vampire Pirate Lincoln? You don’t even know what Afraid is. You will not last five minutes without me.”

          • Gaboris

            @Argent: True ya did say that… but lone wolves still say ya should talk with someone aboot that… and not them, leave us alone! (JK) XD

          • Argent Stonecutter

            I am the terror that flaps in the night.
            I am the deus ex machina in the third act.
            I am Vampire Pirate Lincoln!
            (to be reincarnated as zombie vampire pirate Lincoln in the sequel)

          • Gaboris


            Ya know what ferret, just start writin and make a book or movie… or comic for that matter. I’d sure get it. XD

  12. Inu225

    I personally feel that comics, like art, are constantly changing throughout time. Art styles can be complex like “Baroque” to the strange like “Surrealism”. Yet they are all defined as “art”.
    Same can be said with comics. Comics can be cartoony like Jim Davis’ “Garfield” to the serious like Alan Moore’s “Watchmen”. Though both have their own styles we can’t deny the fact that they are “comics”.
    Comics constantly evolve and break new grounds like “House Pets!”
    Comics are alive YO!!! XD (But that’s just my philosophy.)

    • Roflmaster

      Some time in the distant future….

      Reader: “Snrk, that’s amazingly funny! Jeez, Rick, who knew you could still churn out such awesome w-GURK!”
      Peanut: “STOP LAUGHING AT OUR MISFORTUNES. *shakes reader by the neck* *pops back into the strip*”
      Reader:” WTF?!!”

  13. Valerio

    Spot McCloud is a scary mama

  14. iHavezMyBirdo

    YOU sicken me.. Uncle Sam?

  15. Valerio

    Does this strip imply that Peanut is suffering a schizofrenic syndrome?

  16. Cuckoo

    SPOT (PROFESSOR) DOESN’T CHANGE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS!

    Like, until the last panel. Where he mad.
    This comic made me lol.

    • Frank

      Neither does Scott McCloud! :D (or should I use a mad emoticon?)

    • ShiLin

      I love your avater~~
      And strangely enough, I still have no interest in reading that book even after I read all these…

      • Cuckoo

        Thanks. It’s amazing what you can do with a few minutes free time in GIMP.

        • FuRrY321

          I’m going to have to give GIMP another try, seeing as how I’m staying away from Windows AMAP.

          How is it for linearting?

  17. Argent Stonecutter

    Ferrets make their own categories! Involving tubes!

    • Frank

      Yup. It’s called a category called “Mustela putorius”

      • Argent Stonecutter

        Ferret categories are more like “edible”, “mine”, and “hide this”.

  18. Chip Uni

    It’s on the Intertubes, so it MUST be true!

  19. Cid

    Way to hurt a wounded soul Spot. Category 2 happens to have limitless limitations!

  20. Typhon

    You got me on number 2 spot. You got me..

    • Dr. Prower

      Same.

  21. othorlimmis

    wow, messages from rick.
    subtle….

  22. WingedWolfGirl

    O_O *starts joting notes*

    lotta jux-tap-os… lotta contrary in this one.

  23. Michael

    I sicken him for reading Bittersweet Candy Bowl :D

    • FuRrY321

      *chokes on candy*
      It’s too sweet!

    • Dr. Prower

      It may be somewhat poorly drawn, but it’s still a good comic.

  24. Kujiiro

    <- Does not get.

    I'm guessing I won't understand the next one either.

    • Frank

      Obviously, Scott McCloud does an extreeemly breif and oversimplified History of Art in his book, just so he can say comics are better. Rick has provided an exageratedly oversimplified History of Art, taking things such as “higher plane of existance” literally, and completely trumping the categories proposed in the book by having symbols which are hilarious, but don’t actually represent anything. and ofcourse, there’s the “always-smiling-madly-man suddenly gets angry” moment to top it off

      Hm… It’s really not that funny when you explain it.

  25. Ace

    Irony…

    • Frank

      When you’re doen with it, can I borrow? My clothes-y are wrinkled-y ;)

  26. AdriGummi

    Scott McCloud is a genius! In the comic club of my uni we use him like reference. Good tribute to him, man :)

  27. Dr. Prower

    Um, Spot confuses me. What are the four categories?

    • AdriGummi

      Scott McCloud divides the comic artists in four big categories:

      Clasicists: Worried for to do a very excellent drawing, trying to get comic that looks like done with impressive illustrations.

      Animist: Preffer to centre the story in the characters, their lives, and interest, telling us stories that can connect with the public. Is without any doubt the most common type into the comic. Rick Griffin, I think, is inside this group.

      Formalist: Worried for the experimentation into the comic, is the “oddest” type, representing the experimental comics.

      Iconoclasts: They are worried to tell the truth about the society without make up the reality. Cartoons, like Family Guy, Duckman, Beavis and Butt Head… are highly iconoclasts.

      I hope I’ve solved your doubt ;)

      • Dr. Prower

        Thanks.

  28. root

    INFINITE CANVAAAAAS

  29. DuoHimura

    I have to say, without the background on the Scott McCloud books (though I did flip through one once at the college library), I did still crack up at the “Rome falls, civilization starts over,” bit. Though it leaves out the part where, a thousand years later, the entirety of Europe starts fanboying over the Romans again. I especially like the part where Russia lays claim to the legacy of the Roman Empire despite the fact that it was never even part of it and generally was not similar.

    • Argent Stonecutter

      Tsarist Russia was the Zombie Roman Empire. The Soviet Union was the Robot Zombie Roman Empire. The new Russia is the Pirate Robot Zombie Roman Empire.

      • FuRrY321

        That’s the best kind! :)

      • Roflmaster

        But the Russians haven’t invented Awesomecrete, the concrete that’s purely hypothetical and can withstand a nuclear blast at close range.



        (jk!)

  30. Sansash

    You can make your superhero a psychopath, you can draw gut-splattering violence, and you can call it a “graphic novel,” but comic books are still incredibly stupid.
    -Bill Watterson (Calvin and Hobbes Tenth Anniversary Book)
    His words not mine.